Show Compassion To Animals.

JAGG

New member
I was raised in a time and in an area of the country where many men considered it
manly to kill animals just for the sake of killing them. They called doing that "sport."

And they taught the young boys, as they grew up, to do the same thing. They
explained that killing animals was merely we humans "exercising our dominion",
over animals, as they put it.

The results was a lot of unnecessary killing of animals (and birds) just for the
sake of killing them. "Road kills" counted too. Some back then would speed up
in order to "score a point" on all critters crossing the road and even score points
on stray dogs and cats too.

I now see all that as wrongdoing.

Its a blessings how the Lord changes the heart and makes us wiser and better
as we read His word and get to know Him better. I found myself braking the
other day so I would not hit a young squirrel that had just dashed in front of
my truck. I am glad I did that.

I will never again cause any animal death or pain just for the sake of killing the
animal.

I read in the newspaper, long ago, where they closed the Ringling Brothers Elephant
Show. Good. It was very painful for the elephants. I have read how they "trained"
the elephants to do all their tricks and performances and the "training" involved
intense pain for the elephants while they were forced to go through their routines.

No, I am NOT against hunting animals for food.

I am against killing them "only for sport" and against killing them "just for the sake of
killing them." {But I will admit that "sport hunting" is debatable.}

No, I am not a pacifist. I believe some wars are justified, for example WW II. But I
believe killing and mangling human bodies in wars ought to be the very last resort
after all other solutions have been totally exhausted. "Blessed are the peacemakers
for they shall be called sons of God", said the Lord Jesus. That means exactly what
it says.

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My wife and I love T-bone steak but we have never ate one that was still alive.
This means that somebody killed the cow so we could enjoy eating T-bone steaks.
We eat a lot of chickens too, but never ate a live chicken, they were all dead, so
again somebody killed them so we could enjoy eating them. This is good. Very
tasty too.


I generally kill all the snakes I come across, but that's because I fear all snakes,
even the so-called "good ones." If I did not fear them, I would not kill them. So
whither I am right or wrong on that (about killing the so-called "good snakes")
I still have, in my mind, a good reason for killing them. I don't kill them "just for
the enjoyment of killing." In fact I hope I never see another snake on my property.
I have only killed 2 or 3 in my life and that's plenty for me.

Yes. I am well aware that there are some types of animals that pose a threat to
people, to their homes, and to their livestock. I fully support killing theses types
of animals and controlling their numbers -- this is a good thing to do.

On the subject of showing compassion to animals:

What say you?


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JAGG

New member
The following Bible verse has nothing much to do with the
Opening Post, but folks who have pets and other folks
who keep animals ---might appreciate it.

"A righteous man cares for the needs of his
animal . . ." ___Proverbs 12:10 {NIV}
 

Hilltrot

Well-known member
Too many people enjoy the suffering of others including animals.

Yes, I'm talking to you - Barat Fans . . . .
 

JAGG

New member
I would say you might need therapy? Metal illness is nothing to hide.

You think I might need therapy because I want to show compassion
to animals? The Opening Post is about kindness towards animals
and about showing compassion to them.


In the Opening Post JAGG Wrote:
"I will never again cause any animal death or pain just for the sake
of killing the animal."___JAGG

Also the title of the Opening Post says Show Compassion To Animals,
which is a good and right thing to do.

It is a sign of Excellent Mental Health to NOT desire to cause any
animals death or pain just for the sake of killing the animal.


You wrote "Metal" illness. Did you mean "Mental" Illness instead?
If not, what is "Metal illness?
 

JAGG

New member
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Outside of protecting one’s self from attacks or disease, I would agree with
the opening statement. Though I enjoy meat, I would most likely be a
vegetarian if I were required to actually go out and slaughter an animal.
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Rusha, thanks for the comment and thanks for reading my Opening Post.
The Meat Department in our local supermarket is truly a blessing.
 

thborn

New member


On the subject of showing compassion to animals:

What say you?


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When I was a kid I had very strong opinions about this issue. When I was going through one of my most conservative phases during my college years I swung the other way. Now I believe God has perhaps lead to me to a still better way of thinking, at least what He intends regarding myself.

What do you think humans being made in God's image means? Maybe it's best to leave it as a mystery. I am willing to submit to whatever the truth is. I do wonder if a small part of it has to do with expressiveness. Some animals are more intelligent than others but none of them have the combination of expressive faces and brains that people have.

I think there might be animals in the new earth, in the next life. I don't know...unless you take some of the language very literally...which is maybe not a bad thing...
 

JAGG

New member
When I was a kid I had very strong opinions about this issue. When
I was going through one of my most conservative phases during
my college years I swung the other way. Now I believe God has
perhaps lead to me to a still better way of thinking, at least what
He intends regarding myself.

What do you think humans being made in God's image means?
Maybe it's best to leave it as a mystery. I am willing to submit to
whatever the truth is. I do wonder if a small part of it has to do
with expressiveness. Some animals are more intelligent than
others but none of them have the combination of expressive
faces and brains that people have.

I think there might be animals in the new earth, in the next life.
I don't know...unless you take some of the language very literally..
.which is maybe not a bad thing..
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Thborn, thanks for you comments. Much appreciated.

What do you think humans being made in God's image means?

Here are a few of my thoughts on that:

Genesis 1:27 "God created man in His own image, in the image of God he created them."
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If you want to know what God is like, go into your bathroom and look in the mirror at
yourself, and you will see and know what God is like. You were created in God's image.
( I obviously do NOT mean your physical image or your physical appearance. )
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I interpret the "image of God" in Genesis 1:27 to be as follows:
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(1) God has an Intellect --- man has an Intellect.
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(2) God has a Free Will (volition) --- man has a Free Will
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(3) God has Emotions --- man has Emotions.
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These are the 3 major areas that demonstrate the image of God in human beings.
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Further breakdown of the 3 major areas.
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(4) God is Creative --- man is Creative.
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(5) God can Love --- man can Love.
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(6) God can Cry ("Jesus wept") --- man can Cry.
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(7) God can be Jealous --- man can be Jealous.
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( 8 ) God can experience Joy --- man can experience Joy.
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(9) God can have Patience --- man can have Patience.
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(10) God can express Kindness --- man can express Kindness.
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(11) God can express Gentleness --- man can express Gentleness.
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(12) God can express Wrath --- man can express Wrath.
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(13) God creates Magnificent Art Works (in nature) --- man creates Magnificent Art Works (eg. cathedrals)
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(14) God Writes Books (the Bible) --- man Writes Books.
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(15) God feels Empathy --- man feels Empathy.
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(16) God feels Sympathy --- man feels Sympathy.
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(17) God makes Long-Term Plans --- man makes Long-Term Plans.
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(18 )God can Speak --- man can Speak
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Yes, God made man in His own image.
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There is much more that can be added to that up there.



 

The Barbarian

BANNED
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Psychopaths who become killers almost always have a history of harming animals first. Then that gets old, and they seek bigger thrills.

[h=2]Childhood animal cruelty can be normal or a red flag.[/h]
Disturbed by a high pitched cry, three-year-old Christopher's mom walks into the living room to find him swinging their new kitten around by the tail. Five-year-old John's babysitter witnesses John repeatedly blowing a loud horn into his dog's ear, laughing at the animal's obvious distress. Ten-year-old Liam's older brother discovers him holding a lighter flame to the family guinea pig's foot.
Since the 1970s, research has consistently reported childhood cruelty to animals as the first warning sign of later delinquency, violence, and criminal behavior. In fact, nearly all violent crime perpetrators have a history of animal cruelty in their profiles. Albert deSalvo, the Boston Strangler found guilty of killing 13 women, shot arrows through dogs and cats he trapped as a child. Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold boasted about mutilating animals for fun.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...104/children-who-are-cruel-animals-when-worry

It's not true that everyone who is kind to animals is a good person. Hitler was a vegetarian, because he couldn't bear to think of animals being killed for his food. But a person who kills or harms animals for fun is a person who should be watched.
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
What say you?

I have a water dish on my patio for the birds against HOA rules but so far have not been cited.
A stray cat started using it and I started putting out cat food also against HOA rules.
I now have two feral cats that come to the door in the morning and beg.
I love my cats.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
I have watched a black backed gull snatch a fish from the water, land on our dock and pull him apart still living and wiggling and eat him in pieces.

I have watched mink do similar things to chipmunks and squirrels. And of course cats "playing" with little critters they have caught, whether toads, snakes, mice, chipmunks, etc.

I have watched dogs torture and torment smaller dogs for no apparent reason other then the enjoyment they derived from it.
 
I have watched dogs torture and torment smaller dogs for no apparent reason other then the enjoyment they derived from it.

Most if not all bad behavior by dogs are caused by ignorant owners.

I'm not too crazy about the coyotes who have a sing-along in the middle of the night but I wouldn't shoot them. This is the first time in 30 years my wife and I haven't had at least 1 dog. Twenty-nine of those years we had two or more. I tell my wife if I find a coyote puppy I'm bringing it home to train! She then threatens me knowing I'm just kidding. I think her threats are serious though. 🐕
 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
I hunt, so I have no problem with true sport hunting. Real hunters like my dad care about the environment and they do not just kill kill kill for fun.

But killing just to kill them, that is not good.
 
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