John's Baptism:

Letsargue

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You all say that you’re “CHRISTIANS”, and yet you are still going by the Old Law. The Old Law was to the Jews / Israel, not to the GENTILES, and yet you say that Jesus was the spotless lamb sacrificed for your sins and for all the sins of the whole world. You who are wiser than God refer that the blood of Christ that was shed on the cross and poured out at the base of his altar was for YOUR SINS also. YOU total faithless creatures. – There has NEVER been a blood sacrifice of the Old Law that forgave or rolled “BACK” the sins -- “FORWARD”; neither did the blood that Jesus shed on the cross forgive sins FORWARD of the cross. That blood only took the place of all the Old Laws’ sacrifices in the perfect way, only forgiving the sins of the Jews to that point, and that ended the Old Law. That blood never was intended for the GENTILES if the GENTILES were never under the OLD LAW! --- The whole Gospel / “GOSPEL” is the blood of the New Testament. - The GOSPEL / the death, burial, and the RESURRECTION is the BLOOD of the BODY OF CHRIST / the Church. The “Gospel” is not the blood that was intended to roll back the sins of the Jews, but the Gospel is the perfect blood that one can drink without eating the flesh of Christ with the BLOOD which is a deadly sin. The Flesh of Christ is the Word of Truth, and the Gospel is the blood indeed for the Christian to take part in, not carnal flesh and blood.

Go back to John the Baptist: - Zacharias the father of John was the “HIGH PRIEST” of God in the mind of God. – When Zacharias, the father of John died, John became the HIGH PRIEST of God, in the Mind of God. – Being the new High priest, John changed the Old Law to the Baptism of repentance, being only a death and burial; ( a death and burial without a resurrection ). – John was beheaded and Jesus being the next of kin of John, Jesus became the HIGH PRIEST of God in the mind of God, not in the mind of your world. The beheading of John the High Priest, and Jesus taking over the High Priesthood, the High Priest BODY was separated from the head until the union / marriage of the Lamb. --- John 14:3 KJV – “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and –( RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF )-”. ----- ( The Body and the Head ). That is the marriage of the Son of God the High Priest and King of the Kingdom of God; not for the Jews. – It was not the LIFE of the Lamb that was TAKEN by the Priests, Jesus GAVE HIS LIFE for the church, but his blood was TAKEN for the Jews by the Priests as sacrificial blood.. -- The Lamb of God to the Gentiles is not a sacrifice of BLOOD, but of the “LIFE” OF THE SON OF GOD. – Jesus gave his LIFE, not his BLOOD for the Church. The GOSPEL is the BLOOD for the Church / the Body of Christ. The Gospel is the Blood / “THE GOSPEL IS THE BLOOD ( NOW )!

Pentecost has nothing to do with the OLD LAW, as the Old Law has nothing to do with the Christians / the Body of Christ. – All that really happened, GUYS is that Jesus’ carnal body and blood were taken, and Jesus GAVE HIS LIFE and nothing more. - Three days later Jesus’ glorified body received that same life back and walked out of the Tomb never to die again.

Jesus was baptized of John, the death and burial, and Jesus added the resurrection to IT. - Through Baptism, we take part in John’s baptism with Christ’s resurrection added to IT. – There is no other way that the lost who are in darkness, and under the Law, can come out from the Law. - Through John’s Baptism, one DIES to that Law, and is resurrected of Christ’s resurrection, being translated into the Kingdom of Christ across that gulf of Death / John’s Baptism. Thus John’s Baptism of repentance / death, with Christ’s resurrection added to it.---- None of you wiser than God can prove any of this wrong, even though it is soo far removed from your present DOCTRINE, but that doesn’t matter; you have your false doctrine and you will not turn / “TURN” from it.

Your total lack of faith, and your total lack of the knowledge of who the Angels are, you remain in darkness, seeing not the Spirits of Christ, who make up the Spirit of the Body of Christ who are sent unto you. – And you deny them! -- In your foolish lost world, there is no need but for one Angel to fight the hoard that stands before me. It is no fight at all, and you run and hide in the rocks and dirt. – The Truth shines in the darkness and you cannot comprehend it at all, because you cannot SEE that light / Truth. – And you’re “CHRISTIANS”?

There is nothing of the Old Law that pertains to the Gentile and the Christians, - NOTHING!

Paul – 040411
 

Paulos

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Letsargue? No, let's not argue:


Titus 3:9
Avoid foolish controversies and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

2 Timothy 2:23-24
Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.

2 Timothy 2:14
Solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.

 

Letsargue

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Oh goody!

We no longer have to obey "thou shalt not kill"?



Romans 13:8-9 KJV – “Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9- For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself”. ----- I guess it doesn’t matter that it’s in the New Testament as a Law of FAITH addressed to the Christians beyond the OLD LAW. --- SORRY!

Paul – 040511
 

some other dude

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Romans 13:8-9 KJV – “Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9- For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself”. ----- I guess it doesn’t matter that it’s in the New Testament as a Law of FAITH addressed to the Christians beyond the OLD LAW. --- SORRY!

Paul – 040511



Then I guess you were WRONG when you posted THIS:

Letsargue said:
There is nothing of the Old Law that pertains to the Gentile and the Christians, - NOTHING



---SORRY!
 

Letsargue

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Then I guess you were WRONG when you posted THIS:





---SORRY!



NO! -- The Christian obeys the teachings of Christ given to the Apostles who wrote the "New Testament". -- Just because it is also found in the Old Testament / Law, it has on meaning to the Christian. --- SORRY!

Paul -- 040511
 

some other dude

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NO! -- The Christian obeys the teachings of Christ given to the Apostles who wrote the "New Testament". -- Just because it is also found in the Old Testament / Law, it has on meaning to the Christian. --- SORRY!

Paul -- 040511

EITHER it has ON meaning or it doesn't have ON meaning.

WHICH is it?
 

steko

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From Lestsargue's OP: "Pentecost has nothing to do with the OLD LAW, as the Old Law has nothing to do with the Christians / the Body of Christ."

The LORD Jesus ate the passover lamb with His disciples at the 'appointed time' at the beginning of the 15th Nisan. He was crucified, died and was buried that same day. On the 16th the Priests waved the 'Omer' and began counting 49 days plus one which came to the Jewish feast(appointed time) of Shavuot or to spell it out in Greek, Pentecost. On the Jewish feast of Pentecost, GOD poured out His Spirit and 3000 Jews were saved. Thus began the Church of Christ.

The LORD Jesus is Jewish, by the way.
 

Letsargue

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The LORD Jesus ate the passover lamb with His disciples at the 'appointed time' at the beginning of the 15th Nisan. He was crucified, died and was buried that same day. On the 16th the Priests waved the 'Omer' and began counting 49 days plus one which came to the Jewish feast(appointed time) of Shavuot or to spell it out in Greek, Pentecost. On the Jewish feast of Pentecost, GOD poured out His Spirit and 3000 Jews were saved. Thus began the Church of Christ.

The LORD Jesus is Jewish, by the way.




Why can’t any of you read what the Book says?

Jesus did keep the Passover, but did not eat or drink of it even though it may appear that he did. Look at it closer. – After the Passover Supper “ENDED” / “WAS OVER”, Jesus washed the Apostles feet, offering them as his sacrifices. --- After the washing of their feet, -( THEY SET BACK DOWN FOR THE LORDS SUPPER )-. – Both the Passover and the Lord’s Supper was the same night. – The Passover was with unleavened bread to remember Moses, and the Lord’s Supper was with LEAVENED BREAD in Jesus’ memory; the Lord has RISEN. --- All anyone has to do, is just READ IT! --- SORRY!

Paul – 040811
 

steko

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Why can’t any of you read what the Book says?

Jesus did keep the Passover, but did not eat or drink of it even though it may appear that he did. Look at it closer. – After the Passover Supper “ENDED” / “WAS OVER”, Jesus washed the Apostles feet, offering them as his sacrifices. --- After the washing of their feet, -( THEY SET BACK DOWN FOR THE LORDS SUPPER )-. – Both the Passover and the Lord’s Supper was the same night. – The Passover was with unleavened bread to remember Moses, and the Lord’s Supper was with LEAVENED BREAD in Jesus’ memory; the Lord has RISEN. --- All anyone has to do, is just READ IT! --- SORRY!

Paul – 040811


The LORD Jesus was born under the law. He kept the law in obedience to the Father. The eating of the Passover with the lamb and unleavened bread is GOD's command to Israel throughout their generations. Jesus kept the Father's commands.
 

Letsargue

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The LORD Jesus was born under the law. He kept the law in obedience to the Father. The eating of the Passover with the lamb and unleavened bread is GOD's command to Israel throughout their generations. Jesus kept the Father's commands.



I DIDN'T SAY HE DIDN'T keep the LAW! -- I only said what I said. - Why put words in my mouth, or can you guys not help yourselves.

Paul -- 040811
 

Nick M

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Water baptism = ceremonial cleansing into the priesthood for Israel...this is why the priest with the Levites showed up and said "What are you doing?"

It has no place with the Body of Christ.
 

Letsargue

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Water baptism = ceremonial cleansing into the priesthood for Israel...this is why the priest with the Levites showed up and said "What are you doing?"

It has no place with the Body of Christ.



Acts 22:16 KJV – “Arise, and -( “BE” BAPTIZED, AND "WASH AWAY" )- thy sins, -( CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD )-”. ---- We are baptized because Christ said to be baptized and that is doing it in his name / in his authority. – Baptism is a command of Jesus Christ and YOU can’t obey that command; it’s against your religion.

Acts 2:38 KJV – “BE” baptized –( EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE "REMISSION" OF SINS ).----- Or "wash your sins away" like the Lord commanded. --- Acts 2:41 KJV - “Then they that –( GLADLY RECEIVED HIS WORD WERE BAPTIZED: )- and –( THE SAME DAY THERE WERE ADDED UNTO ( THEM ) ABOUT THREE THOUSAND SOULS ). ---- That was the Church / the Body of Christ. -- That is not a “CEREMONIAL CLEANSING”. – It may well be to you, but NOT to a single true Christian. – Every true Christian has been cleansed of sin in that exact manner. There is no other way that is WRITTEN OR SPOKEN OF ( GOD / CHRIST ). – You can make up any way you like to wash away your sins, but your way can’t work. GUESS WHY!

Paul – 041111
 

Nick M

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How many baptism's are there today? And what is it?

Water?
Of the Holy Spirit by the Lord Jesus Christ?
By the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ?

Which one?
 

Letsargue

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How many baptism's are there today? And what is it?

Water?
Of the Holy Spirit by the Lord Jesus Christ?
By the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ?

Which one?



The Gospel is the death, burial, and the resurrection. --- Romans 6:17 KJV – “But ye have OBEYED from the heart THAT FORM OF DOCTRINE WHICH WAS DELIVERED YOU”. ----- Romans 6:4 KJV – We are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life”. ----- Acts 2:38 KJV – “REPENT, AND BE BAPTIZED EVERY ONE OF YOU in the name of Jesus Christ “FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS”, ((( and ))) YE SHALL RECEIVE – ( THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST )-”. ----- I HAVE FAITH IN WHAT GOD SAID THERE ALSO! – That is as true as John 3:16 KJV --- Or do you not think so? – Which Scripture is not Truth? ------ The Angel of the Church Baptizes one in water, because the one is LOST and must do / obey the last carnal command. ( Obey the Gospel ) and at the same time the Lord Baptizes the one into the Body of Christ / His Body / Church. – Both go together, you can’t have one without the other, they two are one, and you are the third. -- Baptism is obeyed BY FAITH in what God said to DO.

Paul – 041211
 
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