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If there is any 'work' that is done as part of Justification, it is that of the Lord.

thank you both (JudgeRightly) for the conversation (1411). Interesting

It is clear enough.

you going to have a hard time explaining to GOD why Paul was not an Apostle.

Lon, If I may, God did declare the End from the Beginning...in the very first WORD of Genesis....."In the Beginning" (Bereshit)

I believe every word, every punctuation in the Bible is HIS Word....Can you say that?

Here are the two verses that are the context of the above telling us 'why does apostasy have to come first'? v1.."Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,......" Here Paul is speaking of the Rapture that is to come; for Paul...

why would you even consider that hearing GOD's word is a waste of others time?

To keep us guessing....who knows why GOD does that He does..Only He knows and even if told, I doubt we would understand it...

what are you looking for...is there other than God's word???

He wrote what GOD told Him to write regardless of which one came first.

actually there are three types of His Will that are on display in the KJV in various places.

Maybe it was because He also wrote the Book of Acts.

seems like the robot left out much info in those passages you spoke of...according to the KJV.

Why does the Bible have to say anything, His actions should give you a clue?

Once heard of a pastor/priest stating that God does not get everything He wants. He forgot that God has displayed at least two different types of His Will. The above is a perfect example of the Preceptive Will of God.

a good exchange, lets try it again... ok, you think I am intellectually dishonest at least as it pertains to theology No threat. I'll try not to be as snarky? There are only two major theologies in Christianity. That is the doctrines of Election and Universalism....Even you should see that...

Agree, as argument with repetition is also futile when presented to deaf ears,

I don't know, are you not the Ammillennallist who do not believe in the 1,000 millennium with Jesus Christ on earth, in person as king of all.

we all have those dayso_O Ah, while I cannot stop your disparaging anyone who disagrees with you as; "I do it because you've earned it. When you stop being snide, snarky and intellectually dishonest and start being substantive and responsive then our conversation will be far more congenial...