7th Annual TOL-a-THON starts September 16th

Nathon Detroit

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Get ready folks for the 2013 TOL-a-THON. The 7th annual TOL-a-THON will raise money to pay for our annual dedicated server fee as well as a forum software a upgrade. But the most exciting news is the creation of an all-new TOL smartphone app that will be available in iTunes and Google Play.

Please consider setting aside some funds to help us reach our goal.

The 7th annual TOL-aTHON will run from Monday September 16th thru Monday September 30th. More details about the TOL-a-THON will be announced soon.
 

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</td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%">Registered </td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%">Registered PLUS </td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%"> Subscriber (base or bronze level)</td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%"> Subscriber (Silver level)</td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%"> Subscriber (Gold level)</td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%"> Subscriber (LIFETIME MEMBER)</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Cost:</td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%"><center> FREE </center></td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%">
FREE With conditions... User MUST:
· Have at least 50 posts on TOL
AND
· Have been a TOL member for at least 14 daysIf the above conditions are met the user will automatically be promoted to the Registered PLUS level.
</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">$3.00 per month
OR
$30.00 per year.</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">$7 per month
OR
$70 per year.</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">$12 per month
OR
$120 per year.</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">One time payment of $500</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Duration:</td><td bgcolor="white" width="13%">
Ongoing (unless suspended or banned)​
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Ongoing (unless suspended or banned or unless conditions above are no longer met.)​
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Until payment runs out. (or if user is banned for breaking TOL rules. subscriptions are NON-REFUNDABLE)​
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Until payment runs out. (or if user is banned for breaking TOL rules. subscriptions are NON-REFUNDABLE)​
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Until payment runs out. (or if user is banned for breaking TOL rules. subscriptions are NON-REFUNDABLE)​
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Never expires.​
</td></tr><tr><td border="0" bgcolor="#666666">USER PROFILE</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can View Member Info:</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Edit Own Profile: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Use Custom Title: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Use Signatures: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can upload signature images: </td> <td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td> <td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES
500x60 pixels MAX, 100k, non-animated</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES
500x60 pixels MAX, 200k, animated or non-animated</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES
500x60 pixels MAX, 300k, animated or non-animated</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES
500x75 pixels MAX, 400k, animated or non-animated</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can View Others' Profile Pictures: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">FORUMS </td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can View Forum: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can View Others' Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can See Deletion Notices: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Search Forums: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> No </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Use Email to Friend: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Download Attachments: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Post Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Reply to Own Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Reply to Others' Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Edit Own Posts: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Delete Own Posts: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Move Own Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Open / Close Own Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Delete Own Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white"> Can Rate Threads: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">SHOUTBOX</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can View Shoutbox:</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Shout / Post Messages: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> No </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Maximum Shouts Per Day: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO LIMIT</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO LIMIT</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO LIMIT</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">NO LIMIT</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Edit Own Messages: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Hard-Delete Own Messages: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">ATTACHMENTS</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Upload Image Attachments: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Upload Audio Attachments: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Upload Video Attachments: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Upload Flash Attachments: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Space (in bytes) that a user's total attachment usage may consume: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">5000000
(approx. 5 MB)</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">10000000
(approx. 10 MB)</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">20000000
(approx. 20 MB)</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">30000000
(approx. 20 MB)</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">POLLS</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Post Polls: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Vote on Polls: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">AVATARS</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Upload Custom Avatars: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Custom Avatar Maximum Width (pixels): </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">125</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">125</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Custom Avatar Maximum Height (pixels): </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">200</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">200</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">200</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Custom Avatar Maximum File Size (bytes): </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">10000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">20000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">50000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100000</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can upload animated avatar?</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Upload Profile Pictures: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Profile Picture Maximum Width (pixels): </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Profile Picture Maximum Height (pixels): </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Profile Picture Maximum File Size (bytes): </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">10000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">20000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">50000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">100000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">200000</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">PRIVATE MESSAGING</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Maximum Stored Messages: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> 0 </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> 70 </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">150</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">1000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">2000</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">3000</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Use Message Tracking: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Can Deny Private Message Read Receipt Request: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> NO </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%"> YES </td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="white">Maximum Recipients to Send PMs at a time: </td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">0</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">5</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">10</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">20</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">25</td><td align="center" bgcolor="white" width="13%">30</td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">CALENDAR</td><td bgcolor="#666666" width="13%">
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Krsto

Well-known member
Get ready folks for the 2013 TOL-a-THON. The 7th annual TOL-a-THON will raise money to pay for our annual dedicated server fee as well as a forum software a upgrade. But the most exciting news is the creation of an all-new TOL smartphone app that will be available in iTunes and Google Play.

Please consider setting aside some funds to help us reach our goal.

The 7th annual TOL-aTHON will run from Monday September 16th thru Monday September 30th. More details about the TOL-a-THON will be announced soon.

Are you going to issue a financial statement showing your annual revenue and expenses?
 

Nathon Detroit

LIFETIME MEMBER
LIFETIME MEMBER
Do you have to up grade?
Yes and no.

Here's the thing... I run another site similar to TOL that has nothing to do with politics or religion. Recently that site was hacked over and over again. It turned out the old software was insecure. TOL runs on software even older that one. We are at risk.

I'm still not going to upgrade to the bleeding edge because I don't like the newest version. Instead i'm going to upgrade to the newest version of the version that we are at (if that makes sense).

I just want to get things more secure.
 

Nathon Detroit

LIFETIME MEMBER
LIFETIME MEMBER
Are you going to issue a financial statement showing your annual revenue and expenses?
No.

You will have to take my word that we need funds to operate. If you don't feel comfortable with that then by all means do not contribute.

I can tell you that the sever fee alone is near $3000 (annually).
 

meshak

BANNED
Banned
Yes and no.

Here's the thing... I run another site similar to TOL that has nothing to do with politics or religion. Recently that site was hacked over and over again. It turned out the old software was insecure. TOL runs on software even older that one. We are at risk.

I'm still not going to upgrade to the bleeding edge because I don't like the newest version. Instead i'm going to upgrade to the newest version of the version that we are at (if that makes sense).

I just want to get things more secure.

thank you:)
 

Krsto

Well-known member
No.

You will have to take my word that we need funds to operate. If you don't feel comfortable with that then by all means do not contribute.

I can tell you that the sever fee alone is near $3000 (annually).

Nothing personal sir, but I don't take anyone's word for it. Any enterprise that is truly a "non-profit" and needs donations to stay afloat will offer transparency if they have nothing to hide. If you are actually doing this for profit, that is, donations just add to your bottom line rather than enable you to remain solvent, then you should not present the tol-a-thon as you do. I have no problem with you making money, even a ton of money, in fact, I hope you do. I just think you owe it to your "supporters" to be transparent.

That said, I was thinking about being able to post surveys, which wouldn't be a "donation" but an actual service for a fee.
 

Nathon Detroit

LIFETIME MEMBER
LIFETIME MEMBER
If you are actually doing this for profit, that is, donations just add to your bottom line rather than enable you to remain solvent, then you should not present the tol-a-thon as you do. I have no problem with you making money, even a ton of money, in fact, I hope you do. I just think you owe it to your "supporters" to be transparent.
Uh..... you think we make a profit asking for $3,500 for an entire year? :bang: :chuckle:

Like I said.... if you don't feel comfortable helping, then don't.

As I stated... we use the funds to pay our yearly dedicated hosting fee, software licensing fees, and this year we will be developing a TOL smartphone app.

Those are the costs that we are attempting to HELP cover. I will pay any excess out of my own pocket as always.
 

Psalmist

Blessed is the man that......
LIFETIME MEMBER
Hall of Fame
Nothing personal sir, but I don't take anyone's word for it. Any enterprise that is truly a "non-profit" and needs donations to stay afloat will offer transparency if they have nothing to hide. If you are actually doing this for profit, that is, donations just add to your bottom line rather than enable you to remain solvent, then you should not present the tol-a-thon as you do. I have no problem with you making money, even a ton of money, in fact, I hope you do. I just think you owe it to your "supporters" to be transparent.

That said, I was thinking about being able to post surveys, which wouldn't be a "donation" but an actual service for a fee.
You are a seeker of truth...Well, Knight has given that to you. I believe Knight is transparent, and still visible with all truth; why Knight even posts in threads and share his opinion.


Then you should not present the TOL-A-THON as you do...
... Wrong statement so far as I'm concerned, if Knight was running an illegitimate Christian/Political/Other website, it would soon have cracks and flounder. But Knight, staff, and most TOL members speak the name of the Lord and speak the truth, so TOL WILL STAND! God honors those who honor Him.

So listen, or in this case read this. I do not participate all TOL functions or threads, and I have one specific thread that I post in everyday that is extremely important to me; yes, I do support TOL and TOL's effort to expose and show the truth. The day Knight and staff are not honest, upright, and forth coming in their operation, I'll be gone, simple isn't it.

Yes Knight is a friend and we some outside interests that keep us in touch with each other, it something that only a circle burner would understand.

But also remember that in some things, it is "NUNYA" Nunya Business, the right doesn't know what the left had is always doing.

If a person doesn't support something, they'll fall for anything.

And a person only supports what they believe.
 
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Krsto

Well-known member
Uh..... you think we make a profit asking for $3,500 for an entire year? :bang: :chuckle:

Like I said.... if you don't feel comfortable helping, then don't.

As I stated... we use the funds to pay our yearly dedicated hosting fee, software licensing fees, and this year we will be developing a TOL smartphone app.

Those are the costs that we are attempting to HELP cover. I will pay any excess out of my own pocket as always.

If I didn't know anything about internet marketing I might not have brought this up but your site has an Alexa rank of 67,461. That means there are only that many sites that get more traffic than yours. My domain Alexa rank for my 3 sites on my one domain just broke a million which was a goal of mine and gives me more impetus to seek out Google AdWords advertising to put on my site like you have on several places. I know of sites that have way less traffic than yours and produce quite a bit of ad revenue so I'm puzzled why your site isn't bringing in the bucks if it's the case that it's not. If it's not, maybe you need to get an expert on the topic to figure out how to capitalize on what you have and then you won't need to do fundraisers. Maybe I only know enough about internet marketing to be dangerous but I find it hard to believe you aren't at least breaking even if not making good money off your site.

As far as it being none of my business as Psalmist says when I had a non-profit agency and solicited donations I didn't feel I had the luxury to not provide complete financial disclosure to anyone asking and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I had something to hide if I didn't. If you don't have anything to hide, then why are you hiding it?

Just sayin'
 

Psalmist

Blessed is the man that......
LIFETIME MEMBER
Hall of Fame
If I didn't know anything about internet marketing I might not have brought this up but your site has an Alexa rank of 67,461. That means there are only that many sites that get more traffic than yours. My domain Alexa rank for my 3 sites on my one domain just broke a million which was a goal of mine and gives me more impetus to seek out Google AdWords advertising to put on my site like you have on several places. I know of sites that have way less traffic than yours and produce quite a bit of ad revenue so I'm puzzled why your site isn't bringing in the bucks if it's the case that it's not. If it's not, maybe you need to get an expert on the topic to figure out how to capitalize on what you have and then you won't need to do fundraisers. Maybe I only know enough about internet marketing to be dangerous but I find it hard to believe you aren't at least breaking even if not making good money off your site.

As far as it being none of my business as Psalmist says when I had a non-profit agency and solicited donations I didn't feel I had the luxury to not provide complete financial disclosure to anyone asking and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I had something to hide if I didn't. If you don't have anything to hide, then why are you hiding it?

Just sayin'
I leave you with this...I stand by Knight, and staff, as being honest with nothing to hide. It's like the O/T states, the things that are God's are God's and the things that are ours belong to us; the point being, again there are things about TOL that are open to all at TOL, and there are things that are behind the scenes and should remain that way which effect the day to day operation TOL that are quite frankly non of our business, if were necessary for all at TOL to know all things I think it would be disclosed.

I stand by support for TOL in participation, in prayer that TOL is successful operation and with my $$$ what is needed as the occasion arises.


:e4e:​
 

Lighthouse

The Dark Knight
Gold Subscriber
Hall of Fame
If I didn't know anything about internet marketing I might not have brought this up but your site has an Alexa rank of 67,461. That means there are only that many sites that get more traffic than yours. My domain Alexa rank for my 3 sites on my one domain just broke a million which was a goal of mine and gives me more impetus to seek out Google AdWords advertising to put on my site like you have on several places. I know of sites that have way less traffic than yours and produce quite a bit of ad revenue so I'm puzzled why your site isn't bringing in the bucks if it's the case that it's not. If it's not, maybe you need to get an expert on the topic to figure out how to capitalize on what you have and then you won't need to do fundraisers. Maybe I only know enough about internet marketing to be dangerous but I find it hard to believe you aren't at least breaking even if not making good money off your site.

As far as it being none of my business as Psalmist says when I had a non-profit agency and solicited donations I didn't feel I had the luxury to not provide complete financial disclosure to anyone asking and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I had something to hide if I didn't. If you don't have anything to hide, then why are you hiding it?

Just sayin'
Let me explain something to you: those who pay for a subscription, at any level, do not see any ads on TOL, unless they are embedded by Knight. And TOL makes no money from those.
 

Nathon Detroit

LIFETIME MEMBER
LIFETIME MEMBER
If I didn't know anything about internet marketing I might not have brought this up but your site has an Alexa rank of 67,461. That means there are only that many sites that get more traffic than yours.
That's not how Alexa rankings work. Web traffic is only one small factor that Alexa considers. In fact there are ways to trick the Alexa system which kinda makes their rankings a bit of a "facade".

I know of sites that have way less traffic than yours and produce quite a bit of ad revenue so I'm puzzled why your site isn't bringing in the bucks if it's the case that it's not.
There are three reasons TOL does not bring in a lot of Adsense revenue.

1. The nature of our content. TOL is a religion and politics site. Therefore Google sends us ads that are typically very low paying ads. If TOL had similar traffic yet was a site about car insurance we would obviously bring more ad revenue.

2. TOL traffic is almost all return visitors. Almost all of our traffic is our own members or lurkers that return everyday. That type of traffic rarely clicks on Google ads.

3. TOL paid subscribers see less advertising than regular members and since we have so many subscribers we don't serve as many ads as you might imagine.

So... there you have it.

All of that being said, we do not consider ourselves a non-profit site. If we could bring in more revenue and I could quit all my other jobs and focus on TOL exclusively that would be great! In fact, it's a dream of mine. And if somehow TOL could pull in even more money and I was able to buy a solid gold Ferrari I'd be really happy. :car:
 
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Nathon Detroit

LIFETIME MEMBER
LIFETIME MEMBER
Let me explain something to you: those who pay for a subscription, at any level, do not see any ads on TOL, unless they are embedded by Knight. And TOL makes no money from those.
Thanks Lighthouse. As an example of what Lighthouse is saying see the two attached images of the TOL home page....

The first image is what TOL Subscribers see. The second is what everyone else sees.
 

Lighthouse

The Dark Knight
Gold Subscriber
Hall of Fame
And if somehow TOL could pull in even more money and I was able to but a solid gold Ferrari I'd be really happy. :car:
:chuckle:

Best I can do:
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Thanks Lighthouse. As an example of what Lighthouse is saying see the two attached images of the TOL home page....

The first image is what TOL Subscribers see. The second is what everyone else sees.
:e4e:

You're welcome.
 
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