The Ann Coulter Hang-Ups

Nathon Detroit

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The Ann Coulter Hang-Ups shows Coulter repeatedly punting and ending interviews instead of answering valid questions. She can take soft-ball criticism from the left, but Ann Coulter refuses to substantively answer accusations from Bob Enyart, Bill Keller, Steve Deace and Gregg Jackson about her defense of aggressively pro-abortion, anti-marriage politicians.
 

yankeedoodled

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It is just shocking that Ann Coulter did not support a candidate that is pure as the driven snow and totally without blemish. Ought she to do as you require, go and sin no more ? Show me you are utterly without error. Tell me of Obama an iniquity messiah.
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It is just shocking that Ann Coulter did not support a candidate that is pure as the driven snow and totally without blemish. Ought she to do as you require, go and sin no more ? Show me you are utterly without error. Tell me of Obama an iniquity messiah.
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That is not the point. The point is that she wrote in her book that Romney governed as a pro life candidate. Then when she was presented evidence that this was not the case, she repeatedly refused to consider admitting that she might have been wrong and bailed on the conversations.
 

yankeedoodled

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The point is the hypocrisy of holding some one to standards of flawlessness who practices morality while giving the iniquity crowd a blank check to practice such and far worse on an everyday basis.
There is no lipsticking this pig or making a silk purse out of this sows ear. Ann's error does not discredit her entirely and oddly enough such condemnation/judging from the very people that parade the error of doing just that. Ann came on to discuss her book and had no real obligation to divert to other topics, although it would have been more acceptable in many people's eyes. Such strict, narrow judgment from those that abhor judgment, how ever not all that unusual from a deprave degenerate God rejecting society. It's not so difficult to see, except for those with narrow hypocritical blinders on.
 

Nathon Detroit

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It is just shocking that Ann Coulter did not support a candidate that is pure as the driven snow and totally without blemish. Ought she to do as you require, go and sin no more ? Show me you are utterly without error. Tell me of Obama an iniquity messiah.
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Well... this has nothing to do with requiring the "perfect candidate", instead this has everything to do with Ann's integrity. The least she could do is face the topic.

I think it would be acceptable for her to have responded... "Hmmm, I don't know about that. Would you mind if I looked into it and got back with you about it?"

My guess is, had she responded that way every host would have allowed her some flexibility. Instead she showed her true colors and proved she is more instered in politics than truth.
 

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The point is the hypocrisy of holding some one to standards of flawlessness who practices morality while giving the iniquity crowd a blank check to practice such and far worse on an everyday basis.
There is no lipsticking this pig or making a silk purse out of this sows ear. Ann's error does not discredit her entirely and oddly enough such condemnation/judging from the very people that parade the error of doing just that. Ann came on to discuss her book and had no real obligation to divert to other topics, although it would have been more acceptable in many people's eyes. Such strict, narrow judgment from those that abhor judgment, how ever not all that unusual from a deprave degenerate God rejecting society. It's not so difficult to see, except for those with narrow hypocritical blinders on.


She came on to discuss her book and she was challenged on what it says in her book. Why should that be a problem?
 
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CRASH

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The point is the hypocrisy of holding some one to standards of flawlessness who practices morality while giving the iniquity crowd a blank check to practice such and far worse on an everyday basis.
There is no lipsticking this pig or making a silk purse out of this sows ear. Ann's error does not discredit her entirely and oddly enough such condemnation/judging from the very people that parade the error of doing just that. Ann came on to discuss her book and had no real obligation to divert to other topics, although it would have been more acceptable in many people's eyes. Such strict, narrow judgment from those that abhor judgment, how ever not all that unusual from a deprave degenerate God rejecting society. It's not so difficult to see, except for those with narrow hypocritical blinders on.
Exactly, who are these guys to hold Ann to the standard of not supporting people who want to snuff out kids and lying about it. I mean really, can't we just wink at a few dead innocent babies and the lies that help get em killed? Ann is a great Christian leader and why these guys are demaning perfectionism is beyond me!!!
 

CRASH

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I just looked at the video and the press release at the link below and I wonder if Ann is another horrible leader "Christians" have mistakenly anointed.
http://anncoulterapology.com/
The evidence ARTL presents shows Ann supporting a pro-abort, homo marriage candidate and then dodging the accusation. Sad stuff indeed.
 

yankeedoodled

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Christians, as least many professing ones, have allowed Christianity to be treated as a contamination. I don't see their grounds for demanding perfection and who of us has answered to everyones satisfaction when unexpectedly confronted with issues not expected ? I find the judgmentalism to be on the level of a prophet that must be flawless. As i find no politician that fits the mold of perfection, is any Christian then guilty of supporting any politician ? We have plenty of Christians that supported Obama, abortion-murderers, perverts, deviants, felons through their politicians of choice and many of them here brazenly unashamed of politically supporting even worse. I can't see lynching misdemeanors before felons, it offends my sense of justice.
 

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Christians, as least many professing ones, have allowed Christianity to be treated as a contamination. I don't see their grounds for demanding perfection and who of us has answered to everyones satisfaction when unexpectedly confronted with issues not expected ? I find the judgmentalism to be on the level of a prophet that must be flawless. As i find no politician that fits the mold of perfection, is any Christian then guilty of supporting any politician ? We have plenty of Christians that supported Obama, abortion-murderers, perverts, deviants, felons through their politicians of choice and many of them here brazenly unashamed of politically supporting even worse. I can't see lynching misdemeanors before felons, it offends my sense of justice.

How is challenging a person to re-think their views the same as demanding perfection? Why on Earth would you come to a debate forum and challenge our views if you thought it was? I really don't get where you are coming from.

edit: Let me challenge you to go back and watch that video again and then I would like to ask you.. do you think that the statement "Romney governed as a pro lifer" is a defensible statement?
 

CRASH

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I don't see their grounds for demanding perfection

Yankee -
You may remember coming here because of my witness at the Ann Coulter chat site.:argue: Lets take her off the pedestal - she is great at slamming liberals but she messed up - Ann is only human.

Where did anyone demand perfection?
Is it too much to ask that our Christian / Conservative leaders don't lie about people who advocate murder and say they don't?:noid:
 

Flipper

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Well... this has nothing to do with requiring the "perfect candidate", instead this has everything to do with Ann's integrity. The least she could do is face the topic.

I think it would be acceptable for her to have responded... "Hmmm, I don't know about that. Would you mind if I looked into it and got back with you about it?"

My guess is, had she responded that way every host would have allowed her some flexibility. Instead she showed her true colors and proved she is more instered in politics than truth.

I don't know why this comes as any kind of a surprise to you guys. Liberals have long contended that she is nothing better than a shameless publicity whore; maybe you should try listening to them more?
 

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I don't know why this comes as any kind of a surprise to you guys. Liberals have long contended that she is nothing better than a shameless publicity whore; maybe you should try listening to them more?
Who said anything about a surprise? :idunno:
 

yankeedoodled

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yankeedoodled:
As i recall Romney was jumping the fence on the abortion issue many times, Delmar, would you say any comment on his postion is a lie ? To make a statement on a person/politician and then find out his postion changed does not make one a liar.

flipper:
I don't know why this comes as any kind of a surprise to you guys. Liberals have long contended that she is nothing better than a shameless publicity whore; maybe you should try listening to them more?

yankeedoodled:
And as liberals were proud of slick willy's prowess and success as a liar and practice it daily, we should view liberals as truth sayers and deny God as they do ? I hope your not Sean Hannity's flipper she was about a whole load short of a load.
 
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Thanks Crash for the encouragement (and Delmar, Knight, etc - NOT YDd)

Thanks Crash for the encouragement (and Delmar, Knight, etc - NOT YDd)

28,000 PLUS views in a week. Astounding!

29k in a week and a day ;)

-Bob
 

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Hey YankeeDoodled: Is it just Youtube videos that move you?

Hey YankeeDoodled: Is it just Youtube videos that move you?

yankeedoodled said:
It is just shocking that Ann Coulter did not support a candidate that is pure as the driven snow…
Straw man diversion. Hey YD, we hope for better opposition here on TOL. Please think harder before posting a disagreement. That way, you’re posts will be more interesting, and possibly even, helpful! Exposing and opposing those who fund the murder of children is a far cry from demanding perfection. I hate to think of what complaints you would allow your wife if you only beat her on the weekends.

yankeedoodled said:
totally without blemish.
That same diversionary word play could be used to defend any murderer, regardless of the magnitude of his crimes.

yankeedoodled said:
Show me you are utterly without error.
Is that really your standard for leveling criticism? (Or are you just being disingenuous?) Let’s test:
1) Romney funds murdering children: YD – not worthy of criticism
2) Coulter defends Romney’s murder of kids: YD – not worthy of criticism
3) ARTL makes a video: YD – worthy of criticism, especially from me, YankeeDoodled!

Hey YD, by you criticizing others for criticizing Ann, can’t you see the hypocrisy? (Please don’t have a knee-jerk defense mechanism, but think for a moment, and then try allowing your fingers to click Reply and posting this: “Good points TOL; thanks for hanging in there; I’ll now reconsider your claim of Ann’s wrongdoing.” Just try that YD; you’ll see. Humility is good for the soul!)

yankeedoodled said:
The point is the hypocrisy of holding someone to standards of flawlessness... while giving the iniquity crowd a blank check
If I get your meaning, you are trying to divert attention from a Republican who is a radically and aggressively pro-homosexual child killer by getting us to fear the Obama bogeyman. What’s worse, YD, a run-of-the-mill child killer, or a child-killer who dresses up as a pro-life, pro-family, conservative Christian?

yankeedoodled said:
Ann's error does not discredit her entirely
Glad to see that you finally acknowledged, YD, that Coulter erred. The video does not say that she is entirely discredited. Her defense of Joe McCarthy still stands. (My 2003 interview of Ann about her defense of McCarthy starts with an audio clip of a sermon I delivered in my first year in the pulpit, in 2000, about which Coulter said to me: “I can’t believe that sermon of yours by the way [Welcome to Eternity]. Boy, were you ahead of your time. And quite brave…”) So YD, that’s a red herring. The video doesn’t claim her egregious error here discredits her entirely. Much of her work is valid exposing liberals. It’s when she lies, covers and defends Republicans for their murder of children and destruction of Christian values that she becomes a hypocrite and should be rebuked.

yankeedoodled said:
judging from the very people that parade the error of doing just that... from those [here at TOL] that abhor judgment
Hey YD, you must not know TOL very well. TOL emphasizes Christ’s teaching, to “judge rightly” (Google those words) and see the TOL article, Judge Rightly is not some guy's name!

yankeedoodled said:
Ann came on to discuss her book and had no real obligation to divert to other topics.
Coulter’s Guilty brings up Mitt Romney about eight times. And she’s hypocritically guilty of committing the same wrongdoing about him that she exposes the liberals for when she identified:
Constant false media reports about Romney; Coulter could have been referring to herself when she wrote: “"the media were unable to stop themselves from spreading unsubstantiated rumors about Romney[]…" (p. 153-154) What? Like Coulter and Republican unsubstantiated rumors that he governed as a pro-lifer; had no choice but to institute homo marriage; did not enact a quasi-socialist extension of gov’t health care; did not dramatically raise taxes; did not use his millions in an attempt to buy silence, or even support, from conservative, pro-life organizations; etc.

yankeedoodled said:
hypocritical blinders…
Hey YD, that would be Ann, condemning liberals who promote homosexual marriage and child killing while defending a Republican who did more for those two wicked goals than almost any other person: single-handedly ordered homo marriage and authorized tax-funded elective abortions.

yankeedoodled said:
I don't see their grounds for demanding perfection
Straw man. Red herring.

yankeedoodled said:
must be flawless. As i find no politician that fits the mold of perfection, is any Christian then guilty of supporting any politician?
Straw man. Such absurd argument could be used to defend any wicked leader, Obama, etc.

To make a statement on a person/politician and then find out his postion changed does not make one a liar.
No, of course not YD. And to document that a politician is lying (even by heroically going beyond the standard proof that his lips are moving, as does the ARTL Coulter Hang-Ups video) does not make one a liar. (Now surely YD, you can agree with that. No?)

yankeedoodled said:
I can't see lynching misdemeanors before felons, it offends my sense of justice.
Hey YD, perhaps you can fine-tune your sense of justice to emote outrage at tax-funded child killing? Or is it just Youtube videos you disagree with that move you to action?

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