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  • Ktoyou
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    Originally posted by john w View Post
    The bible: The Lord Jesus Christ is the only way to God the Father.

    You: nitpickers!


    You santanic loser.
    What ever happened to the OV and MAD people on TOL?

    Who are these misfits?

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  • Ktoyou
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post

    Our heavenly Father, established an order and that's His will. If you're in His will, you will be completely satisfied and content with the outcome. The safest place to be is in Yahweh's will.
    Well, good old Paul did not live in a time when women were believed capable of abstract thought. None of them were lawyers or doctors, so he assumed.

    Women then, would gab about domestic issues in the church because they believed they were incapable of understanding anything else.

    I would like to see, on paper, your academic records compared to mine!

    Paul could not foresee the future as well God, (a Sprint)who we humans call "Father" did not have perfect forethought, or we humans would not have freewill. We would be programmed robots

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  • john w
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    Originally posted by meshak View Post
    I have to admit you are so good at playing semantic and nitpicking games.
    The bible: The Lord Jesus Christ is the only way to God the Father.

    You: nitpickers!


    You santanic loser.

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  • meshak
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    Originally posted by john w View Post
    The bible is written evidence.



    1. No, the author of the bible is the Lord God.

    2. The "written evidence" re, Caesar is by men. Check. And?

    3. Are you a man? Yes? So, we can reject everything you post.

    Thanks for the concession.
    I have to admit you are so good at playing semantic and nitpicking games.

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  • john w
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I already answered the question why I believe an emperor named Caesar existing 2000 years ago is reasonable. Based on the fact we have written evidence, archaeological evidence, that a man named Caesar lived 2000 years ago who was emperor of an empire. Big deal. Nothing extraordinary about that.
    The bible is written evidence.

    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    It doesn't take much to make that claim reasonable, not as much as it takes to make the belief in Yeshua reasonable, or that a book written by men is the infallible word of almighty God. That would take a lot more evidence, than what is required to reasonably establish mundane, historical realities.
    1. No, the author of the bible is the Lord God.

    2. The "written evidence" re, Caesar is by men. Check. And?

    3. Are you a man? Yes? So, we can reject everything you post.

    Thanks for the concession.

    4. Translated: What you think is "reasonable," and no one else, eh, Lamont? I see.

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  • john w
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I'll be back tomorrow, God bless you everybody, that includes John W.
    "God?" That's quite subjective.

    Someone to you: Allah is God. The Koran, and the Holy Spirit, told me so.

    You: God/"god" bless you...Right on!!!!!!As long as it seems "reasonable" to you, go for it, "brother!"

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  • john w
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    Originally posted by john w View Post
    Translation: You can provide no evidence, based upon sight, smell, taste, hearing, touch, that he existed.
    Just:It seems reasonable...I, Lamont, just assume he existed.

    You can't be this stupid. Really Lamont? No one challenges your "right" to believe; The question is: evidence? Belief, and truth, are independent. Veracity exists, irrespective of belief. Belief, or lack thereof, in no way affect objective truth. Your view:It's like a person jumping of a 30 story building, "believing" he can fly, and half way down, he exclaims," So far, so good!" That is fantasy, not biblical/secular faith. Your definition of faith: the lottery.


    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    You're silly John. Grow up.
    That's his best shot. I picked your argument apart, slicing you up, leaving you slumped, on the mat, in a heap.

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  • john w
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I didn't quote the bible, if you notice.
    (You need the Spirit of God, to highlight the truth in the bible.)
    Deceit. OK, Lamont, you interpreted a bible, that you say is not to be trusted. Feel better?
    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    Spirituality, is supra-rational. It's beyond human reason. Spiritual truth is foolishness to those who are perishing. The carnal mind can not appreciate it nor in any way benefit from it.
    You've said NADA.You talk like Albert Camus/Jean Paul Sarte-they talk like you.


    Someone to you: God is a woman, has 5 wives, and lives in the sea. That seems reasonable to me.The Holy Spirit told me.


    You: Right on!!!

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  • Angel4Truth
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    God through His power and energies, transforms us. He created us with certain abilities and when we step into a certain position, willingly, he can reform us from within. No doubt.

    Divine energies. Need a biblical reference?
    Um that in red? Thats what i said. He transforms the heart, we dont do it ourselves.

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  • meshak
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I'll be back tomorrow, God bless you everybody, that includes John W.
    You are breath of fresh air.

    thank you for your comments.

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  • RealityJerk
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    I'll be back tomorrow, God bless you everybody, that includes John W.

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  • RealityJerk
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    [QUOTE=john w;5145842]Translation: [U]You can provide no evidence, based upon sight, smell, taste, hearing, touch, that he existed.
    Just:It seems reasonable...I, Lamont, just assume he existed.

    You can't be this stupid. Really Lamont? No one challenges your "right" to believe; The question is: evidence? Belief, and truth, are independent. Veracity exists, irrespective of belief. Belief, or lack thereof, in no way affect objective truth. Your view:It's like a person jumping of a 30 story building, "believing" he can fly, and half way down, he exclaims," So far, so good!" That is fantasy, not biblical/secular faith. Your definition of faith: the lottery.


    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post




    Yes, your evidence is: It seems reasonable...


    Quite compelling.


    No. That is my point. You have no evidence of Washington, using the 5 senses-you've never seen him(or his grave), you've never touched him, you've never heard him..............What do you have as evidence? What others have told you, via books about Washington-eyewitness testimony.

    I have the bible as evidence, which has proven the test of time, as true, credible, and droids like you have attempted to "prove" it's alleged errors, spinning, "ancient...blah blah blah...,:" and have failed, for years, and will continue to fail.

    But the point being-in the secular world, we accept testimony via books, of eye witnesses, and yet, these same people lose their mind,in the spiritual realm, blathering,"The bible is an ancient book.............................................. ..............You have no evidence!!!!!"


    It is deceitful, and satanic.
    You're silly John. Grow up.

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  • meshak
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    Originally posted by john w View Post


    It is deceitful, and satanic.
    my goodness, such grandiose statement.

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  • john w
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    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I don't need to taste, sight, touch, smell, hear Caesar to reasonable assume or believe he existed.


    Translation: [U]You can provide no evidence, based upon sight, smell, taste, hearing, touch, that he existed.
    Just:It seems reasonable...I, Lamont, just assume he existed.

    You can't be this stupid. Really Lamont? No one challenges your "right" to believe; The question is: evidence? Belief, and truth, are independent. Veracity exists, irrespective of belief. Belief, or lack thereof, in no way affect objective truth. Your view:It's like a person jumping of a 30 story building, "believing" he can fly, and half way down, he exclaims," So far, so good!" That is fantasy, not biblical/secular faith. Your definition of faith: the lottery.


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    A man lived thousands of years ago who was emperor of an empire. Yeah? Big deal. If you tell me Caesar had a pet dragon and shot lasers out of his eyes, that's unreasonable, unless you have some really really good evidence.
    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    I already gave you a reason why I believe he existed. You're the one resorting to disingenuous incoherent gobbledygook and psychobabble.

    Yes, your evidence is: It seems reasonable...


    Quite compelling.
    Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
    Why do you believe in Jesus and the bible? Does you taste, sight , touch, smell Jesus? How and why is the bible, God's word?
    No. That is my point. You have no evidence of Washington, using the 5 senses-you've never seen him(or his grave), you've never touched him, you've never heard him..............What do you have as evidence? What others have told you, via books about Washington-eyewitness testimony.

    I have the bible as evidence, which has proven the test of time, as true, credible, and droids like you have attempted to "prove" it's alleged errors, spinning, "ancient...blah blah blah...,:" and have failed, for years, and will continue to fail.

    But the point being-in the secular world, we accept testimony via books, of eye witnesses, and yet, these same people lose their mind,in the spiritual realm, blathering,"The bible is an ancient book.............................................. ..............You have no evidence!!!!!"


    It is deceitful, and satanic.

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  • RealityJerk
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    Originally posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Shes stated it many times on here. Ive rebuked her many times for that lie also.

    No, its not a fact that WE change our hearts, He changes them via HIS Spirit, we cannot save ourselves false teacher.
    God through His power and energies, transforms us. He created us with certain abilities and when we step into a certain position, willingly, he can reform us from within. No doubt.

    Divine energies. Need a biblical reference?

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