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  • Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
    The Muslims are the ones who are going to hell because they oppress women. One might ask one of their women about liking their nun suits, but that is because men conditioned them with death if they do not always be obedient.

    Most normal young women like to show their charms and have the same freedom as men, but Muslim men do not allow it and punish them, always beating women.

    Not all Muslims will be in hell, not those that repent and come to Jesus, but all Muslim men will go straight to hell!

    If you suport Muslims and are male then you like oppressing women and will go to heel. If your are a Muslim woman, then you are a victim of oppression, violence and fear, Jesus may save you
    The bible also commands women and men to dress modestly. How is modesty demonic? Exposing your "charms", in a sensual manner, is demonic, not modest dress.

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    • Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
      The bible also commands women and men to dress modestly. How is modesty demonic? Exposing your "charms", in a sensual manner, is demonic, not modest dress.
      You do not see the men having to cover their faces, or wear nun suits all in black. The men get to dress modern and western, but they do not allow this for woman' they treat them like slaves. Muslims are known to oppress women. You cannot see that the men are much more free than the women, then you are a sexist pig!
      So, what?

      believe it!

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      • Originally posted by Lon View Post
        You aren't a Muslim?
        One of the new age hippy voodoo charmer types --- enlightened through "experiences" and thinks we all need to live in unity.

        We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
        They already know monsters exist.
        We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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        • Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
          You do not see the men having to cover their faces, or wear nun suits all in black. The men get to dress modern and western, but they do not allow this for woman' they treat them like slaves. Muslims are known to oppress women. You cannot see that the men are much more free than the women, then you are a sexist pig!
          I've studied Islam and according to sharia/Islamic law, women don't have to cover their faces or wear burqas. The nikab/face veil is a cultural accretion and not a religious requirement. Biblically, women also have to wear a head covering and not display their ornaments or sensual "charms". It's YHWH's law. However, men also have to dress modestly and cover their "charms", even grow a beard. They also wear head coverings. If you go to Saudi Arabia, the men there dress in robes and wear head coverings and are required to grow their beards.

          How many female presidents has the United States had? Check this out:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ment_and_State

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim...itical_leaders

          If Muslim men are so evil and hate women so much, why would they elect a woman to be their leader?

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          • Originally posted by Tambora View Post
            One of the new age hippy voodoo charmer types --- enlightened through "experiences" and thinks we all need to live in unity.
            That's the way of those who actually have a relationship with YHWH and live and study His laws. Don't be so quick to nuke civilians, not a good idea if you want to enter Yahweh's Kingdom.

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            • In Saudi Arabia, women, just now and usually the rich are just beginning to drive a car. How is that religious, they are all bigots.

              Women of any age had to get male permission to leave their homes, how it that religious?

              What it really is a male dominated sexist patriarchal society, which is very backward.

              If they did not have oil, they would all be living in tents!
              So, what?

              believe it!

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              • Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                In Saudi Arabia, women, just now and usually the rich are just beginning to drive a car. How is that religious, they are all bigots.

                Women of any age had to get male permission to leave their homes, how it that religious?

                What it really is a male dominated sexist patriarchal society, which is very backward.

                If they did not have oil, they would all be living in tents!
                Saudi Arabia is one thing, Islam is another. I just showed you how several Muslim nations have had and have right now, female heads of state. Women leading their nations. Unfortunately, the US government supports Saudi Arabia and attacks Muslim nations with more tolerant, egalitarian governments, like that of Syria's and Libya's. Patriarchy is biblical and the natural normative order, established by YHWH Himself. But, that doesn't imply talented, gifted women can't earn the respect of men and lead them. Deborah in the bible was a judge and prophetess.

                Muhammad was married to Khadijah for 25 years, before she died and he married other women. She was 20 years older than him and his employer. She was a business woman, who owned all of the caravans that Muhammad managed. So your views on Arabs and Islam, aren't entirely accurate. Actually, YHWH's law is stricter when it comes to male leadership and the need for patriarchy.

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                • Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                  Saudi Arabia is one thing, Islam is another. I just showed you how several Muslim nations have had and have right now, female heads of state. Women leading their nations. Unfortunately, the US government supports Saudi Arabia and attacks Muslim nations with more tolerant, egalitarian governments, like that of Syria's and Libya's. Patriarchy is biblical and the natural normative order, established by YHWH Himself. But, that doesn't imply talented, gifted women can't earn the respect of men and lead them. Deborah in the bible was a judge and prophetess.

                  Muhammad was married to Khadijah for 25 years, before she died and he married other women. She was 20 years older than him and his employer. She was a business woman, who owned all of the caravans that Muhammad managed. So your views on Arabs and Islam, aren't entirely accurate. Actually, YHWH's law is stricter when it comes to male leadership and the need for patriarchy.
                  Sounds like Muhammad was a houseboy? Which can be good. Their is no righteous law that assumes men are better than women, only sexist pigs of any age think this

                  Jesus never taught women as being inferior.
                  So, what?

                  believe it!

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                  • Jesus loved all persons and thought when men wanted to stone a prostitute, those who want4ed to kill her, being an unwanted and defenseless woman, Jesus let them know they were also sinners. Jesus told her to go and sin no more.

                    When the woman came to clean Jesus' feet and his best friends thought it disgusting, Jesus said she had perfect belief, unlike some of them.,

                    Jesus always loved little children and respected women.
                    So, what?

                    believe it!

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                    • Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
                      Sounds like Muhammad was a houseboy? Which can be good. Their is no righteous law that assumes men are better than women, only sexist pigs of any age think this

                      Jesus never taught women as being inferior.
                      Men are better than women and women are better than men. We compliment each other for our strengths and weaknesses. There is a divine hierarchy of authority, descending from the heavenly Father. A husband is the head of his wife and Christ is his head. If you want to be blessed by YHWH, then you should accept His divine order.

                      Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
                      Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
                      Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

                      Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
                      Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
                      Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

                      1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
                      1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
                      1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
                      1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
                      1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
                      1Pe 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

                      1Ti_2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
                      1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
                      1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
                      1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
                      1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

                      1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
                      1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
                      1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
                      1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
                      1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.


                      Wo-Man/Hebrew = Ish'A ----------- Man/Hebrew = Ish

                      A wo-man is the glory of a man. God created her from Adam/Ish and then Adam named her:

                      Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
                      Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
                      Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
                      Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
                      Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
                      Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

                      She was named/given her nature, by Adam. The reason all of creation fell, is because Adam named God's creation. Every animal and including Eve, was named, given their respective natures, by Adam. When Eve ate of the tree, nothing happened. God could've created another female from Adam. But, Adam out of his love for Eve, his natural God given attachment to her, didn't want another Eve. He was in love with her. So he hate with her.

                      When he ate, everything fell with him, and that's why the second Adam, the Messiah was a male and not a female. A man and not a wo-man/woman. In the kingdom of God, after we get our resurrection bodies, there will be no more marriage, for the elect. You won't be subject to your husband, because you won't have one.

                      The nations that will be ruled by the elect or Christ's royal family, will still marry and procreate. They will spread humanity throughout the universe. This universe was originally created for immortal beings, not mortal ones. That's why it's so unfathomably large. If you are truly of the elect, you will reign with Christ, as an angel. So don't let the demonic spirit of rebellion, of feminism/Jezebel corrupt you, it will undermine your walk with Yahweh. Rebellion is witchcraft:

                      1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

                      Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
                      Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
                      Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

                      Feminism is a form of witchcraft. It's demonic. Men abusing women is also demonic and such men won't inherit the kingdom of YHWH. Husbands must love their wives as Christ loves the church. If a man doesn't love his wife, YHWH won't hear his prayer.

                      In conclusion..

                      Our heavenly Father, established an order and that's His will. If you're in His will, you will be completely satisfied and content with the outcome. The safest place to be is in Yahweh's will.
                      Last edited by RealityJerk; December 5, 2017, 11:37 PM. Reason: Typos

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                      • Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                        What post? And like I said, who cares if I'm supposedly a communist? Your ad hominem attacks don't render any of my arguments wrong. I can be whatever you claim I am, and still be right.
                        Ah....The "old ad hominem attacks" trick....Next up?....non sequitur....ad nauseam...red herring...ad ignorantiam....

                        And The Beat Goes On....Ladi Dadi Dee .....


                        Thanks for checkin' in, Sonny.
                        Saint John W

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                        • Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                          How so?
                          Your avatar-a depiction, image, of allegedly of the Lord Jesus Christ-God in the flesh. Survey Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Isaiah, Acts.
                          Saint John W

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                          • Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                            Why don't you offer an argument, rather than silly insults and slurs? Try it, let's see if any of your cherished assertions will stand scrutiny.
                            I addressed the "silly" topic of this thread, and stayed on topic-"Why the infraction?"

                            And thanks for another nice sound byte/cliche.You're beginning to bore me.


                            Here is a summary of the "silly"ness of this "thread," and you-perhaps also change your avatar, to:





                            We are all busy men, women....Stop your whining and pining.


                            Can you dig it? Good.
                            Saint John W

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                            • Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                              No, it's not the bible, but it is truth nonetheless. If the words resonate with you, it is the Spirit of YHWH that has confirmed it. Walk the way and you will see........................................]
                              "it is truth nonetheless"

                              That settles it. A debate ender/stumper....We are all scratchin' our hillbilly heads on that one...


                              "If the words resonate with you, it is the Spirit of YHWH that has confirmed it. Walk the way and you will..."



                              Translation: Subjectivity...All together now, TOL members...A one-uh...a two-uh....

                              Saint John W

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                              • Originally posted by john w View Post
                                Ah....The "old ad hominem attacks" trick....Next up?....non sequitur....ad nauseam...red herring...ad ignorantiam....

                                And The Beat Goes On....Ladi Dadi Dee .....


                                Thanks for checkin' in, Sonny.
                                When you have an actual argument on a theological or social issue, let me know, perhaps we can have a dicussion.

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