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  • #31
    So now he/she has me curious. If not actually a JW (which is in doubt), what group is 'similar' to the JWs?

    SDA do missionaries. So do Mormons.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by musterion View Post
      So now he/she has me curious. If not actually a JW (which is in doubt), what group is 'similar' to the JWs?

      SDA do missionaries. So do Mormons.
      What other cult group would be so proud to be similar to JW's?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
        What other cult group would be so proud to be similar to JW's?
        Meshakism.

        We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
        They already know monsters exist.
        We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tambora View Post
          Meshakism.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
            What other cult group would be so proud to be similar to JW's?
            None that I've ever heard of. That's why best guess is that he/she is JW but doesn't want to admit it.
            "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
            Terence Mc Lean

            [most will be very surprised]


            Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
            By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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            • #36
              Or, maybe one of these.

              https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/top...plinter-groups
              "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
              Terence Mc Lean

              [most will be very surprised]


              Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
              By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tambora View Post

                You are out of touch if you think anyone here thinks this way.
                That would have a bit more resonance were it not for the fact that you're on record for advocating sending nukes into the middle east...

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                • #38
                  [MENTION=20276]RealityJerk[/MENTION]

                  Nuking Mecca - Reasonable Course Of Action

                  This is the thread that [MENTION=10403]Arthur Brain[/MENTION] is referring to in his last post.
                  “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

                  ― Theodore Roosevelt

                  Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by musterion View Post
                    No, you're just a hateful ignorant cultist.
                    I'm a Trinitarian, not a JW and no longer a member of the Bible Student's Society. I became a Trinitarian 8 years ago.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tambora View Post
                      An Islam sympathizer.
                      I don't advocate slandering and smearing people's religion in the name of mine. You feel like your Christian faith is being challenged by Islamic theology, so you demonize it. That's your only defense against Islam, not a logical, spirit filled argument. Just mud slinging and character assassination. That's all you have.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by WizardofOz View Post
                        [MENTION=20276]RealityJerk[/MENTION]

                        Nuking Mecca - Reasonable Course Of Action

                        This is the thread that [MENTION=10403]Arthur Brain[/MENTION] is referring to in his last post.
                        Right. A warmongering American nationalist Evangelical advocating nuking civilians. I'm not surprised. Then he/she, has the gull of accusing me of advocating violence/terrorism. Typical American Evangelical fuzzy logic and hypocrisy.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                          Right. A warmongering American nationalist Evangelical advocating nuking civilians. I'm not surprised. Then he/she, has the gull of accusing me of advocating violence/terrorism. Typical American Evangelical fuzzy logic and hypocrisy.
                          No. Bluster is different than actually doing a thing. Those in the military or ground-roots militia in Arab countries are more than in America. Less than one percent close to 1 in 200 are in the military in the U.S. While you will occasionally hear 'nuke them all!' it isn't what is done, nor what has been done, nor is in the power of any civilian, nor is even listened to by our own people, let alone something an Arab should take seriously.

                          Conversely, terrorism has been done, not by military, but home militia Arabs against civilians who have nothing much (voting) to do with military actions. It never makes a lick of sense to kill people who are not involved in conflicts.

                          In the U.S. We already have terrorists. Largely, they are mentally deficient people among us. There is no way 'copying mentally deficient people' is going to do anything or help anything. You 'might' get someone to sympathize that all Muslims who practice such are mentally deficient. That is the only connection. Rather, the intelligent Muslim will realize that there are better ways. If you are a writer, write to Western civilians and let them know what is happening. Try not to posturize, unless you are a militant Muslim. If you are, then you are talking to the wrong people. There are about 1 in 200 people, and even most of them take orders from somebody else.
                          My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                          Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                          Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                          Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                          No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                          Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                          ? Yep

                          Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                          ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                          Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by musterion View Post
                            And Islam demonizes itself without our help.
                            Originally posted by RealityJerk View Post
                            No, you're just a hateful ignorant person.
                            List of Killings in the Name of Islam: 2017

                            This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com. Most of these incidents are terror attacks. A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

                            During this time period, there were 1902 Islamic attacks in 59 countries,
                            in which 14727 people were killed
                            and 13608 injured.



                            List of Killings in the Name of Islam:2016

                            This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com. Most of these incidents are terror attacks. A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

                            During this time period, there were 2491 Islamic attacks in 59 countries,
                            in which 21262 people were killed
                            and 26722 injured.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Lon View Post
                              No. Bluster is different than actually doing a thing. Those in the military or ground-roots militia in Arab countries are more than in America. Less than one percent close to 1 in 200 are in the military in the U.S. While you will occasionally hear 'nuke them all!' it isn't what is done, nor what has been done, nor is in the power of any civilian, nor is even listened to by our own people, let alone something an Arab should take seriously.

                              Conversely, terrorism has been done, not by military, but home militia Arabs against civilians who have nothing much (voting) to do with military actions. It never makes a lick of sense to kill people who are not involved in conflicts.

                              In the U.S. We already have terrorists. Largely, they are mentally deficient people among us. There is no way 'copying mentally deficient people' is going to do anything or help anything. You 'might' get someone to sympathize that all Muslims who practice such are mentally deficient. That is the only connection. Rather, the intelligent Muslim will realize that there are better ways. If you are a writer, write to Western civilians and let them know what is happening. Try not to posturize, unless you are a militant Muslim. If you are, then you are talking to the wrong people. There are about 1 in 200 people, and even most of them take orders from somebody else.
                              Sure, it's bluster, and it's not going to happen obviously. However, that doesn't take away the sincerity of the sentiment and Tambora wasn't kidding about it. She even went so far as to advocate a nuke attack without warning so that civilians could escape the blast zone.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                                List of Killings in the Name of Islam: 2017

                                This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com. Most of these incidents are terror attacks. A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

                                During this time period, there were 1902 Islamic attacks in 59 countries,
                                in which 14727 people were killed
                                and 13608 injured.



                                List of Killings in the Name of Islam:2016

                                This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com. Most of these incidents are terror attacks. A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

                                During this time period, there were 2491 Islamic attacks in 59 countries,
                                in which 21262 people were killed
                                and 26722 injured.
                                What are the sources for those stats? What qualifies as Islamic terrorism, according to that Western source you've cited? Anyways, how many of those Muslims are members of Islamist groups funded by the US and its allies? What's the cause of these terrorist acts? Before Iraq was invaded by the US, Islamists were few and hiding in the closet. Saddam Hussein had zero tolerance for Islamic radicals, committing acts of violence. Libya and Syria weren't being assaulted by ISIS and Al Nusra until the US and its allies started these "regime change wars". It's already well established (by high ranking US government officials and documents), that the US government and its allies are arming, training and funding the Islamists in Syria now.

                                So, I assume you believe as an American, you somehow have the moral high ground upon which to stand and condemn Muslims for their violence? Yet America's "Regime change projects" in the middle east have destroyed the lives of millions of people. Close to a million people have lost their lives as a result of America's obsession with eliminating foreign secular dictators it doesn't like. Six million people have become refugees (are essentially homeless, losing their homes, lands, livelihoods, not to speak of losing their family members and friends.), do you even care? Before the illegal US invasion of Iraq there were 1.5 million Christians living in Iraq, co-existing peacefully with their Muslim neighbors. Now there are about half a million Christians left in Iraq, mostly in the Kurdish north. What happened to those one million Christians?

                                You'll find out on judgement day, when you stand before Christ and you're asked why you supported the US government's warmongering. Classifying the death of all of those innocent people as "collateral damage", isn't going to help you. Stop arming terrorists in the middle east, to get rid of Assad, and stop warmongering, then maybe you'll have some moral high ground upon which to stand and point your finger, until then, your finger is crooked and fecullent. A crooked fecullent finger.
                                Last edited by RealityJerk; December 3rd, 2017, 10:39 AM. Reason: Typos

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