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  • #61
    Originally posted by StanJ View Post
    That's right...once we confess our sins and ask Him to be our savior.
    What sins? Why do you have to ask Him to be your Saviour? isn't He the Saviour of all men whether or not you ask Him (1 Timothy 4:10 KJV)? What is the gospel of your salvation?
    2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Puppet View Post
      The reformeds don't need your silly bumper stickers, "git saved". You don't save yourself. God does the saving.
      When was there ever a moment in your life when you trusted the Lord for salvation after hearing and believing the word of truth?

      I've been asking you this same question for quite some time and you never have answered it and I know why.
      2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

      Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Puppet View Post
        Silly little man wants to show his imagined god how much credit he earned for salvation. He'll find out that 19,000 worth of boasting is completely worthless. I don't blame TOL for wanting to delete his garage. He'll be more upset in afterlife.
        You're making yourself look a might silly here. How does one "delete his garage"?



        And where has Robert ever implied that he DID anything for salvation?
        2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

        Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Puppet View Post
          I understand you a little bit better than Letsargue. You two write alike
          One line spammer. Weighty. That's your best shot, puppy?
          Saint John W

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          • #65
            Originally posted by StanJ View Post
            That's right...once we confess our sins and ask Him to be our savior.
            No such directive in the book, to " ask Him to be our savior"-you read that, heard that, from the "Ask 'Jesus' into your heart" frauds.


            He is the Saviour, whether you ask Him, or not. He does not need your permission, or invitation. He demands that you believe it.

            That is how a member of the boc is to speak....Power....Authority...Confidence....Survey ing the bible.
            Saint John W

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            • #66
              Originally posted by john w View Post
              No such directive in the book, to " ask Him to be our savior"-you read that, heard that, from the "Ask 'Jesus' into your heart" frauds.


              He is the Saviour, whether you ask Him, or not. He does not need your permission, or invitation. He demands that you believe it.

              That is how a member of the boc is to speak....Power....Authority...Confidence....Survey ing the bible.
              Thats what calvinism say but you hate them for saying that.does what God demands happen everytime? Does the person believe when God demands it?
              Calibrated by the Gospel

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              • #67
                Originally posted by john w View Post
                One line spammer. Weighty. That's your best shot, puppy?
                Do I weigh my best shot? What if its heavier than yours? My one liner is more like Gospel light.
                Calibrated by the Gospel

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by heir View Post
                  You're making yourself look a might silly here. How does one "delete his garage"?



                  And where has Robert ever implied that he DID anything for salvation?
                  He teaches works before faith like you do and not giving God the slightest chance to save according to His own pleasure, not men. You won't give God a chance cause you're on your friend's side reguarding salvation. You won't let Him know for sure you're the elect cause you want to tell Him you're powerful enough to reject His demands. You're the the super godgirl , the almighty powerful free willer
                  Calibrated by the Gospel

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by heir View Post
                    When was there ever a moment in your life when you trusted the Lord for salvation after hearing and believing the word of truth?

                    I've been asking you this same question for quite some time and you never have answered it and I know why.
                    From the evidence from your post, you have no slightest idea why as the rest of the arminian-semi pelagian - works before faith- group does. None of ya'll don't know why cause you're totally depraved which is supported in the bible with tons of proof quotes. Its googleable. Look it up for yourself and read what God has to say about what you're not able to do when you think you can or ought to do due to your boastful pride of your own power to save yourself according to what your friends tell you to do to gain profits from you. You're tithing them to spread more lies of the devil as you do here
                    Calibrated by the Gospel

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Puppet View Post
                      He teaches works before faith like you do and not giving God the slightest chance to save according to His own pleasure, not men. You won't give God a chance cause you're on your friend's side reguarding salvation. You won't let Him know for sure you're the elect cause you want to tell Him you're powerful enough to reject His demands. You're the the super godgirl , the almighty powerful free willer
                      You are a liar.

                      We preach salvation by grace through the faith of Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV). And why wouldn't we? God has chosen the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe (1 Corinthians 1:21 KJV). The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16-17 KJV) although no longer to the Jew first and also to the Greek, but to all men (1 Timothy 2:4-16 KJV). When has there ever been a moment in your life when you trusted the Lord after hearing and believing it?
                      2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

                      Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Puppet View Post
                        From the evidence from your post, you have no slightest idea why as the rest of the arminian-semi pelagian - works before faith- group does. None of ya'll don't know why cause you're totally depraved which is supported in the bible with tons of proof quotes. Its googleable. Look it up for yourself and read what God has to say about what you're not able to do when you think you can or ought to do due to your boastful pride of your own power to save yourself according to what your friends tell you to do to gain profits from you. You're tithing them to spread more lies of the devil as you do here
                        More lies. I preach the power of God. See post above, you b-57 wannabe. And then answer:

                        When was there ever a moment in your life when you trusted the Lord for salvation after hearing and believing the word of truth?
                        2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

                        Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Puppet View Post
                          Do I weigh my best shot? What if its heavier than yours? My one liner is more like Gospel light.
                          What gospel is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth and when did you trust the Lord after hearing and believing it?
                          2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

                          Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by heir View Post
                            More lies. I preach the power of God. See post above, you b-57 wannabe. And then answer:

                            When was there ever a moment in your life when you trusted the Lord for salvation after hearing and believing the word of truth?
                            Can't be lying if it comes from your cult. Most of us here never been asked that so it only comes from you. The phrase "the gospel of your salvation" is found in Eph 1:13, so you might be asking us for your interpretation of that passage.

                            Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

                            Your trying to use that as proof texts against predestination like your false friend pate but you totally blindly missed the beggining of the chapter liks you never readvit at all...

                            Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 according as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 to the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8 wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10 that in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 in whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12 that we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

                            Most if not all who grew up a southern baptist never heard of that questioning the way you asked. I guess its a false non-denominational questioning line.
                            Even an Arminian from an Anglican background, never heard it like you say it.

                            You need to stay far far far away from your friends. They make you a failure

                            The shortest answer would probably be: The gospel is the good news that Jesus saved His people from their sins. (Matt 1:21; 1 Cor 15:1-4; Jn 19:30; Heb 9:12)
                            Calibrated by the Gospel

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by heir View Post
                              What sins? Why do you have to ask Him to be your Saviour? isn't He the Saviour of all men whether or not you ask Him (1 Timothy 4:10 KJV)? What is the gospel of your salvation?
                              1 John 1:8-10 (NIV) Rom 10:9-11 (NIV)

                              He is the Redeemer of all men. He is the reconciler of all men. He is ONLY your savior when you positively respond to God's drawing you to Him and confess Him as such.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Puppet View Post
                                Do I weigh my best shot? What if its heavier than yours? My one liner is more like Gospel light.
                                Cute. Sit.
                                Saint John W

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