Theology Club: The Olive Tree

Jerry Shugart

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"And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree" (Ro.11:17).​

The "Olive Tree" does not represent the Church, which is His Body. Neither does it represent Israel. Instead, it represents the "service" of believers under the Abrahamic Covenant. The Olive Tree analogy is in regard to "bearing fruit", or "service". At the time when the nation of Israel was bearing fruit the Lord called them an Olive Tree:

"The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, [and] of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken" (Jer.11:16).​

The Olive Tree was an important tree for the Israelites because it was a source of food and light for them. For hundreds of years the olive was eaten as a staple food and olive oil has been used for cooking and in lamps for light. The oil of the olive was also used for anointing in religious ceremonies.

Israel remained an Olive Tree as long as that nation continued under the Abrahamic covenant in her duty to serve the Lord:

"The oath which he sware to our father Abraham, That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve Him without fear in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life" (Lk.1:73-75).​

By serving Him the nation was to be the "light of the world". The Lord Jesus told that nation:

"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid....Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven" (Mt.5:14,16).​

Since that nation crucified the Lord Jesus and later persecuted His disciples most of the Jews were "broken off" from serving Him. The Jews were the "natural" branches of the Olive Tree since they were the natural descendants of Abraham:

"Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee" (Ro.11:20,21).​

The Gentile believers are described as branches from the "wild Olive Tree":

"For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree" (Ro.11:24).​

The Gentile believers are described in this way because Abraham is not their "natural" father but instead he is their father because they "walk in the steps of that faith" of Abraham:

"And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised" (Ro.4:12).​

So now both the Jewish believers and the Gentile believers are the branches of the Olive Tree:

"And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree" (Ro.11:17).​

Again, the Olive Tree represents "service for the Lord" or "fruit bearing for the Lord."
 

SaulToPaul 2

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The "Olive Tree" does not represent the Church, which is His Body. Neither does it represent Israel.

16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.

17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
 

heir

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16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.

17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
Yep! You beat me to it!
 

Jerry Shugart

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16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.

17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.

Israel was called the Olive Tree when producing fruit for the Lord. But when she stopped bearing fruit the Lord pronounced evil upon her, meaning that she was no longer His Olive Tree.
 

Jerry Shugart

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He quoted verse 16, but I did not see 17.
It is obviously Israel.

Does a husbandman destroy his own Olive Tree?

"The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, [and] of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken" (Jer.11:16).​

She was no longer called an Olive Tree because she was no longer bearing any fruit.
 

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
No other entity was ever called the Olive Tree.

We should not assume it was anything other than Israel in Romans 11.

So are you saying that all those belonging to the church at Rome were grafted into Israel?

Did the branches from the wild Olive Tree become Israelites?
 

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
The Gentiles to whom Paul said, "Behold thou art called a Jew", I see as being in the Olive Tree.

How is that possible since before someone could be grafted into Israel he had to first be circumcised and then keep the law of Moses?

Were all those in the church at Rome circumcised and were they told to keep the law of Moses??
 
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