Wrong.
5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee;
Paul was not of Judah.
Which means what? Benjamites aren't considered Jews anymore? If you have to stretch the facts
that far, your theology is really in trouble.
Nick M said:
Yes, putting them outside the faith, and into circumsion.
Where does it say anything about circumcision in Matthew 28, how about 27, 26? How about 25? 24 maybe, no?
How about this, neither the word "circumcision" (περιτομη) nor the word circumcise (περιτεμνω) occur in Matthew even a single time.
You have import theology into Matthew 18 to get your conclusion out of it.
Nick said:
The olive tree is Israel of the gospel of circumcision. The reason Paul brings it up is he was writing to Greeks proseltyzed to Israel and cirucmcision. He straight says it, they are called Jew, for going to Judah in Jerusalem.
No, you couldn't be more wrong here. The olive tree is the faithful remnant of Israel, God's elect among the Jews prior to the dividing wall of hostility being brought down and the gentiles included in the gospel. The reason Paul brings it up is because he is substantiating his claim that unbelieving Jews are "broken off" and believing gentiles are "grafted in." That's why Paul introduces the concept of the olive tree with the hypothetical question, "Has God rejected His people?" (Romans 11:1).
Quote me where he talks about proselytizing gentiles going to Jerusalem? Its not there. They, the gentiles, stand in the olive tree by faith (Romans 11:20), not faith plus proselytizing or circumcision or keeping the Mosaic law, just saving faith.
Paul doesn't even use the word Jerusalem until Romans 15 and he doesn't say
they went to Jerusalem he says
he went to Jerusalem.
Lets talk about 1 Cor 15.
Nick said:
The summary is the same. The details are different. Peter is to baptize into the priesthood, as stated by you correctly right here.
And Paul doesn't baptize, except the Crispus, Gaius, the household of Stephanus, the Phillipian Jailer and some guys in Acts 19.
What was Paul baptizing them into Nick?
Or is this one of the blooper reels of the bible in your theology?
Nick said:
Israel is to endure to the end to be saved.
As apposed to the Gentiles who can make a shallow confession and hate Jesus for the rest of his or her life and still be saved?
Everyone has to endure to the end. We just don't endure to the end on our own steam. He who started the work finishes it. (Phil 1:6).
Nick said:
Paul was saved as an enemy of Christ. He is the prototype for the Body of Christ. The prototype is the first one.
Everyone who sins is an enemy of Christ. That's why Romans 2:1 makes sense. The world wasn't divided into good Jewish friends and bad gentile enemies, the world was divided into bad enemies of God and Jesus.
Nick M said:
The Lord Jesus Christ told Israel this.
Matthew 19
To enter into life, keep the commandments
Jesus told a man who was seeking to be justified by obedience to the Law that he must keep the commandments to enter life.
(Matthew 19:16-22)
Then, when the man insisted that he had done so all his life, Jesus raises the bar and tells him to go sell it all and give the proceeds to the poor, then pack up and follow Him.
Where can I find that commandment in the Mosaic Law Nick? Which law necessitates that all Israelite must sell
all their possessions and give them to the poor if they are to be saved?
Can you quote that Mosaic commandment to me?
Is it in Exodus, Leviticus or Deuteronomy? Maybe Numbers?
The disciples reaction was spot on.
"Who then can be saved?"
Jesus's reply shows that one cannot enter into eternal life by works of the law, "with man this is impossible but with God all things are possible. (Matthew 19:23-26)
Nick said:
Paul said this
Romans 7
The commandment which was to bring life, I found to bring death.
The law didn't exactly redeem the rich man in Matthew 19 did it?
