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  • #61
    Originally posted by PureX View Post

    If there is an "objective morality" (an idea that is often debated on TOL), it exists by this reasoning: that we are all a part of the same cosmic whole, and therefor would naturally seek to maintain and advance the well-being of not just ourselves, but of the whole. This is reasoning that anyone, theist and atheist, alike, can easily grasp and assent.
    Yes,...and note this 'morality' exists just as well, with or without a 'God-concept'


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    • #62
      Originally posted by PureX View Post

      Self-centered fear, then, is the enemy. Because it's this fear of losing the self within the whole, and of the self being neglected by the whole that both causes that mental and spiritual separation (it seems to me). And faith is the antidote to that fear. Faith is the remembering that we are a part of the whole, and that the well-being of the whole and our own well-being are intrinsically intertwined. As we do for others, we are doing for ourselves. And as their well-being increases, so does ours.

      It is not "every man for himself", as our ego-centric fear leads us to imagine.
      'Faith' intuits or draws from that intrinsic unity of all that exists, and so naturally is nourished by service to others, which is true service to self, since 'self' is nourished thereby as well, as all others are in the 'process'. A genuine self-love is integrous, all-inclusive, holistic.


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      • #63
        Originally posted by freelight View Post
        Awesome, have you enjoyed that city, and any of its treasures?

        Could you share some of those jewels with us?
        Met lots of artificial/masked personalities that played a relevant role in discovery of the inner path it is teaching, everything we come in contact with is a part of the Eternal Conscience, An Eternal actor on the stage of temporal conscience playing a multitude of parts to teach Divine Seeds on their way home through the valley of illusional death.

        None observable Jewels like a Perl hidden in a field.
        Trying to awaken the divine principle in the belly of the fish.

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        • #64
          Infinite consciousness.........

          Originally posted by Zeke View Post

          Met lots of artificial/masked personalities that played a relevant role in discovery of the inner path it is teaching, everything we come in contact with is a part of the Eternal Conscience, An Eternal actor on the stage of temporal conscience playing a multitude of parts to teach Divine Seeds on their way home through the valley of illusional death.

          None observable Jewels like a Perl hidden in a field.
          Ah,....all individual streams of consciousness are returning to their heart-source, revealing that the 'light' of awareness first reveals itself as "I",....the "I" that is conscious. In non-duality teachings I've been enjoying some Rupert Spira lectures,....helping us to point to the clarity of our true nature, as that knowing prior to thought, awareness itself without any object.

          Rupert touches on 'prayer' and 'healing' below, but ultimately points us back to the "I", and that awareness before any "I" reference arises. Also, how that the being conscious of being, utters its first statement as "I Am", the name of God, the identity of being itself, which is the source prior to any conception, from which and in which thoughts arise.

          The Idea of God


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          • #65
            Originally posted by freelight View Post
            Ah,....the "I", and that awareness before any "I" reference arises. Also, how that the being conscious of being, utters its first statement as "I Am", the name of God, the identity of being itself, which is the source prior to any conception, from which and in which thoughts arise.

            The Idea of God
            I heard you can get to that state with good drugs !


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            • #66
              Effortless Being.......

              Originally posted by patrick jane View Post

              I heard you can get to that state with good drugs !
              I would seriously with an open receptive mind, consider Rupert's sharing. Drugs may alter one's mind helping it to reach certain states of consciousness or various receptivity or phenomena, but its an artificially produced effect,....while having a clean body and open clarity of mind, where one can recognize their true essence or 'being', that quality of 'being' that is one's essential nature, is the most natural course to take, having nothing artificial whatsoever, it being the genuine reality of one's Self. This 'nature' or natural state is what is at the heart of no-thing and every-thing. Nothing exists or can be apart from the "I" of consciousness, apart from which there is no world, no experience, no relations.

              If you would find a quite comfortable place to just relax and be, you would find that you don't have to put any effort in your effortless being. There is no trying to 'be', since you already are. You know that you are aware....that this awareness is prior to anything that arises and is the space-like field-context in which all experience takes place.

              The highest meditation is simply to abide as that. - identifying as consciousness itself, before any assumption of mind, ego, personality, name, form, association, denomination, etc. Just BE that which is 'seeing' and 'knowing'.

              You don't need a 'drug' or chemical boost to enjoy your own true nature, since that 'nature' or quality of being, is ever intrinsic to you, already ever present, in all of its potentiality and actuality.

              The Highest Meditation


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              • #67
                You are a deceiver (2 Pe 2:1).

                As a reminder freelight is number 1 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Miscellaneous category.

                See:

                The New Age by Adrian Rogers

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                • #68
                  true seeing and knowing......

                  Originally posted by serpentdove View Post

                  You are a deceiver (2 Pe 2:1).
                  Welcome to the thread serpentdove,....God loves you too

                  As per the 'charge' above, you'll have to prove your claim in some specific case or instance and provide evidence. In the offering of 'information' there is no intention to 'deceive' (why do that?), but to enlighten, inform, invigorate, stimulate, encourage dialogue, research, etc.

                  As a reminder freelight is number 1 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Miscellaneous category.
                  Well, its somewhat flattering that Choleric deemed me worthy of his list although his choice of category only partly considered my recommendations which shows his own bias. I've also amply addressed this on many levels in that thread itself, so my commentary or rebuttals are openly displayed.

                  As far as my sharing of 'non-duality' perspectives over the years here, its nothing new.

                  If you're speaking of the video-presentations above, the teacher offers clear insights into the nature of consciousness, giving 'pointers' so one can consider and re-cognize their own true nature, which has as its essential quality, 'awareness'. 'Non-Duality' insights or pointers have nothing to do with 'dogma' or necessarily any 'religious teaching' per se, but are honest inquiries into the nature of 'Self', the nature of one's being...discovering it and knowing it. It is realizing that there is what is aware, the 'seeing' and 'knowing' itself. Staying there, and being that. Its a total identification as awareness, with no objects, false-associations or assumptions, just free seeing, open knowing. With no false assumptions or presumptions, there is only that.

                  All thoughts, ideas, concepts, points of view, perceptions arise in awareness. There is no experience or knowing apart from awareness.


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                  • #69
                    I'm present right now, and I appreciate the thread. I brought my own
                    Trust those that seek the truth, but doubt those that say they have found it.

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                    • #70
                      Its universal............

                      Originally posted by MrDeets View Post

                      I'm present right now, and I appreciate the thread. I brought my own
                      Hi Mr. Deets

                      Thanks for your 'appreciation',.....there are all kinds of treats in The Present....just abide in the eternal NOW,....as if there is anywhere else you could be In the silence, is where you may intuit the very essence of reality, because reality can be nowhere else, but in the presence of awareness.

                      Bringing your own coffee is ok, but we have some special brews that are outa this world....samples on the house.


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                      • #71
                        How's business ? Are you paying your taxes ?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by patrick jane View Post

                          How's business ? Are you paying your taxes ?

                          Faring well

                          All is legal here

                          Thinking, exploring, researching is free

                          Have a nirvanic blow-out


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                          • #73
                            Your viewership and replies would greatly increase if you kept your posts shorter, I think. Be concise, not saying 4 things 10 different ways.

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                            • #74
                              I would like an imaginary cup of tea, please.
                              Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
                              Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by steko View Post

                                I would like an imaginary cup of tea, please.
                                It helps to visualize it first


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