Wrong about what?
You should value them as well.
Every day.
You got that from looking through the list of reports made and responses given? :AMR:
toldailytopic: Who do you think would make a good TOL moderator?
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You got that from looking through the list of reports made and responses given? :AMR:
Come on TH. You like numbers. Go through the Woodshed, count reports by member name and categorise according to response. Let's see the list of people that have the best and worst report to response ratios.
Or you could pretend Hitler belongs in a rational response again.lain:
Or you could pretend Hitler belongs in a rational response again.
lain:
It would be less time consuming to go the other way.
I do. No more so than when we have a conversation.
That's not how you spell any. :nono:Every day.
So, a short term memory deficiency as well then.
lain:
The problem is you presume a connection between that number and rightness...or fairness. You didn't exactly spell that out. Let's assume rightness. But what actually happens is someone sets out a complaint and someone else applies their own subjective judgment to it. That tells you next to nothing about fairness or rightness. There's no objective standard in play to correlate the numbers by, just an outcome with an assumption tied about it like a ribbon.Come on TH. You like numbers. Go through the Woodshed, count reports by member name and categorise according to response. Let's see the list of people that have the best and worst report to response ratios.
Or you could pretend Hitler belongs in a rational response again.
Son of Jack
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I'm sure being a mod is a very difficult job. I appreciate Knight, Del, Poly, and Ebenz. They do a great job. Thank you.
I can think of a few others that could do it, but they've all been mentioned.
I can think of a few others that could do it, but they've all been mentioned.
StanJ53
New member
Nice... I officially withdraw Tammy from my recommendation.
Sisterhood forever aye Tammy?
Son of Jack
New member
Dude, seriously. Tam is right. Leave Kat alone.
StanJ53
New member
Hey yungin'! Are you Japanese? Potty mouth does NOT just include four letter expletives kiddo. When you neg rep me with "Shut up, fat boy", then yes I neg rep you with what I said. Don't start what you can't finish sweet cheeks.
I only neg rep people that do it to me first child and having a war of words with you is like fighting an unarmed child.
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StanJ53
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Well as soon as she stops flaming me I'll be more than happy to. Children have to learn, Dude.
glorydaz
Well-known member
Inzl would be my top pick. She can do anything, and she is a wonderful sister in the Lord. :first:
Where do you get off telling me what I presume? :AMR:
The number of reports made by a person is no determiner of whether his reports are right or not. What determines right from wrong on TOL is the will of the mod. "Fairness" is only brought up when people don't like the decision made.
I don't generally spell things out unless asked. And you're a right hypocrite for bemoaning my not spelling things out when all you do is spell out non-sequitur.
Yes, there is. If a reported post is acted on, the report was justified. If it was not acted on, it probably wasn't justified.
Looking at these ratios will give us an indication of which reporters are the best at judging what is against the rules and what is not.
I got you started. Feel free to add the details on sheet2. Come on, what are you scared of?
glorydaz
Well-known member
Delmar....you are great, and I think Lon would be an excellent mod.
It is also often a thankless job that takes a lot of man hours. The staff have to put up with a lot to keep the site running smoothly. They also have to tolerate a lot of guff from members. Those enjoying the site don't see half the stink that staff have to put up with. Kudos to the staff that run TOL and make it what it is. The person that takes up the position of third super mod will have 100 percent of my support.
glorydaz
Well-known member
Oh...never me. I can barely figure out how to post stuff....or do my quote marks, and I definately don't have the tact. But I do appreciate you mentioning me, Stan.
Tambora is still my top pick. She would be fair an she sees all that goes on this board. She wouldn't take any guff off of anyone.
In about a year when you get to know the site, you will probably make a good mod.Oh...never me. I can barely figure out how to post stuff....or do my quote marks, and I definately don't have the tact. But I do appreciate you mentioning me, Stan.
Perhaps the best thing would be the ability to inspect one's own motives. A failure to do so seems to be what trips up most moderators.
It's a gift.
lain: More seriously, there's no other way to read it and you don't actually differ on that part of it. You will and do, in fact, presume a correlation between the mod verdict and the descriptive terms related. No, it doesn't. I'll get to why below.
No, what's unfair also isn't right.
Imagine if that was an argument, with support and a conclusion that flowed from it rationally...why don't we all imagine it together.
lain:No, though it raises the likelihood. Some things are obvious, like profanity or implied profanity. Other charges are much more subjective. If all the rules were like the rule relating to profanity I'd agree with you. Most of them aren't and the rule makers don't even pretend to be fair/equitable/right in enforcement of them. To the contrary, a bias is declared almost proudly. Now if the bias is in the foundation of a rule then it's one thing. Fairness or right within that relative context is spelled out and applies equally to everyone. But if the bias is in the application of the rule then fairness/right is nonsensical and what you can glean from a ruling is tainted.
I'd call you naive, but you aren't so I'll just say, supra.
Nah. You'd have to have a large sample. Someone could have reported once and had a mod agree. Great percentage, doesn't tell you much. And the sample should be across the range of complaints available, or you could only report spam bots and profanity and look like a world beater by your standard. In short, absent a number of accounted for variables it wouldn't tell you anything about the rightness or fairness of the outcome and the number that follows representing it.
And to go back a bit, the reason you got the Hitler line was because you tried a bumper sticker approach, "Diversity is divisive." That can be but needn't be true. I shouldn't have to spell that out to someone who has played a team sport. It's comprised, frequently, of a team with different backgrounds and personalities and understandings. But they come together within the framework of the game. TOL has rules and those rules and respect for the institution is a similar animal.