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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for February 4th, 2011 10:23 AM


toldailytopic: The Catholic Church: what did they get right, and what did they get wrong?






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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse
An Apocalypse (Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.

I'd say since the Apocalypse hasn't occurred, they've got it wrong. But "they" is all religion (including mine), not just Catholic.

I do think the Apocalypse has started though.
 
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Right: The importance of education and social justice.

Wrong: The hierarchical structure, priestly celibacy.

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well there is the whole starting and running the christian faith choosing which books to include in the bible and unlike many protestant sects there has never been any crazy cult leaders pulling off mass suicides.
 
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jpk1313 said:
well there is the whole starting and running the christian faith choosing which books to include in the bible and unlike many protestant sects there has never been any crazy cult leaders pulling off mass suicides.
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At least we don't have the crusades. :eek:
 
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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for February 4th, 2011 10:23 AM


toldailytopic: The Catholic Church: what did they get right, and what did they get wrong?






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Right - social justice and charitable causes

Wrong- crusades

Right - I kind of like that they have someone on earth that represents God

Right - don't get worked up over evolution
 
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Right: Doctrine, universities, hospitals, monastic communities, unity.

Wrong: The grasp for worldly power and the crusades (The sword of the Christian is the word of God and the transforming love of Christ). Extreme hierarchy, not all hierarchy is bad but I think the council of bishops would be enough. Maybe a little too attached to Hellenistic philosophy.

All in all the Catholic church gets way more harsh criticism than they deserve, mostly due to rather distorted views of certain parts of history.
 
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Whatever limited "good" they managed to accomplish was done incidently or accidentally. As I see it right now they're a cabal of child abusers who are finally getting (some) of what's coming to them. Long overdue.
 
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Granite said:
Whatever limited "good" they managed to accomplish was done incidently or accidentally. As I see it right now they're a cabal of child abusers who are finally getting (some) of what's coming to them. Long overdue.
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Seeing as how you're universally recognized around here as the biggest idiot who shoots off his fool mouth since Joe Biden, that doesn't count for much.
 
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And one more time, if SOD's responding to me, he's been on the ignore list for a while. Connie, same goes for you--I see you lurking.:cheers:

Let's put the OP's questions a little differently:

In what way did the Catholic Church ever leave a civilization, people, culture, or place, better than the way they found it? True improvement--happiness, quality of life, etc. I'm not talking building an orphanage or something; something uniquely Catholic that the Church brought to a region or people for the region or people's betterment.

Furthermore, this improvement cannot be offset by any subsequent damage; in other words, whatever community outreach the Church conducted in Boston is undone by the hideous child abuse there, for example. So any examples of "improvement" must also be free of any taint of the Church's long record of depravity.
 
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Right: The Crusades (I prefer my woman burqa-less).
http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/2876-when-christendom-pushed-back

Wrong: (so many issues, so little internet space).

Purposely putting predatory homosexuals in their seminaries.
http://www.regnery.com/regnery/020618_goodbye.html

Support of Obamacare (socialist medicine).
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/20/catholic-bishops-did-not-support-obamacare-repeal-vote/

Support of net neutrality.
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/139061-catholic-bishops-support-net-neutrality
 
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our bishops are liberal
and
there is not much we can do about it
but
I see people taking over each parish
and
ignoring the bishop as much as possible
 
miriam

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I was thinking of the modern Catholic church.

Clearly, if you're talking about the whole history of the Catholic church, there are other things they have done wrong:

the Crusades....WRONG
the Inquisition...WRONG

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