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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    When you speak of "doing what they had always done" in regard to Paul's baptism exactly what had they always done?
    baptize

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    • #32
      Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
      baptize
      What baptism is Paul speaking of here?:
      "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius" (1 Cor.1:14).

      Of course the baptism prior to Paul is the one spoken of in the following verse which was performed by John the Baptist:

      "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins"
      (Lk.3:3).

      What other baptism was there prior to Paul where people did the baptizing?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
        What baptism is Paul speaking of here?:
        "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius" (1 Cor.1:14).



        the same baptism Paul was unnecessarily baptized with.



        Of course the baptism prior to Paul is the one spoken of in the following verse which was performed by John the Baptist:

        "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins"
        (Lk.3:3).

        What other baptism was there prior to Paul where people did the baptizing?
        Mar_10:38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
          the same baptism Paul was unnecessarily baptized with.
          So Paul baptized some believers with an unnecessary baptism?:

          "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius" (1 Cor.1:14).

          I asked you:

          What other baptism was there prior to Paul where people did the baptizing?

          Here is your answer:

          Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
          Mar_10:38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?
          My question was about what kind of baptism was in view when Ananias told Paul the following:

          "why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

          Surely you are not saying that the baptism which the Lord Jesus spoke of at Mark 10:38 is the same baptism Ananias told Paul to submit to, are you?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
            So Paul baptized some believers with an unnecessary baptism?:

            "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius" (1 Cor.1:14).



            yes, the same baptism Paul was unnecessarily baptized with.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
              What baptism is Paul speaking of here?:
              "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius" (1 Cor.1:14).

              Of course the baptism prior to Paul is the one spoken of in the following verse which was performed by John the Baptist:

              "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins"
              (Lk.3:3).

              What other baptism was there prior to Paul where people did the baptizing?


              Hi Jerrty and here is ONE example OF how Paul baprized anyone !!

              In Acts 19:2-7 !!

              Verse 2 Paul said to them HAVING BELIEVED , have you RECIEVED ( THE ) HOLY SPIRIT and the word THE in brackets in NOT IN THE GREEK TEXT !!

              They answer , But we did not hear whether there is HOLY SPIRIT !!

              Verse 2 , they were Baptized into the BAPTISM of John !!

              verse 5 says and having heard this they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus !!

              This is different than Matt 28:18 where they will be BAPTIZED in the name of the FATHER , THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT , WHY ??

              So how did Paul BAPTIZE THESE 12 DISCIPLES ??

              In verse 6 Paul LAID HANDS UPON THEM , THE HOLY SPIRIT came upon them and they spake in Languages and were Prophesying , just as Acts 1:5 PREDICTED and this is what happened at PENTECOST !!

              Anyone who says that Paul BAPTIZED with WATER IS FOLLOWING THE Acts 28er FAKE NEWS !!

              dan p

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                So how did Paul BAPTIZE THESE 12 DISCIPLES ??

                In verse 6 Paul LAID HANDS UPON THEM , THE HOLY SPIRIT came upon them and they spake in Languages and were Prophesying , just as Acts 1:5 PREDICTED and this is what happened at PENTECOST !!
                The laying of hands is not a baptism.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
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                  yes, the same baptism Paul was unnecessarily baptized with.
                  So Paul, Crispus, and Gaius were all baptized unnecessarily.

                  Too bad that you were not there back in the first century so that you could have set them straight!

                  Why do you think that Paul was ignorant about these baptisms?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                    The laying of hands is not a baptism.

                    Hi Jerry and I know that you MISSED verse 5 and will quote , AND having heard ( THIS ) THEY WERE BAPTIZED , SEE IT JERRY , in the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS !!

                    Get your BLINDERS OFF !!

                    dan p

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                      So Paul, Crispus, and Gaius were all baptized unnecessarily.
                      correct

                      Why do you think that Paul was ignorant about these baptisms?
                      same reason some thought circumcision was still necessary

                      Act 15:1 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved."

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                        Hi Jerry and I know that you MISSED verse 5 and will quote , AND having heard ( THIS ) THEY WERE BAPTIZED , SEE IT JERRY , in the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS !!

                        Get your BLINDERS OFF !!
                        The Holy Spirit did not come upon them because they were baptized but instead because Paul laid hands on them. You even recognized that truth because that is exactly what you said:

                        Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                        In verse 6 Paul LAID HANDS UPON THEM , THE HOLY SPIRIT came upon them and they spake in Languages and were Prophesying...,
                        You need to understand that the pronoun "they" in verse 5 can only be referring back to the people who John the Baptist told that they should believe on Jesus Christ:
                        "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied" (Acts 9:2-6).

                        The antecedent of the pronoun "they" at verse 5 can be none other than the people whom John the Baptist told to believe on the Lord Jesus.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                          same reason some thought circumcision was still necessary

                          Act 15:1 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved."
                          So Paul was just ignorant of what he was supposed to be doing?

                          I believe that Paul knew exactly what he was doing and it is you who is ignorant about why he baptized some believers with water.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                            So Paul was just ignorant of what he was supposed to be doing?
                            no , Paul only baptized 2 people & also the household of Stephanas


                            I believe that Paul knew exactly what he was doing and it is you who is ignorant about why he baptized some believers with water.
                            prove it.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                              no , Paul only baptized 2 people & also the household of Stephanas
                              But you said that the baptisms Paul performed on those people were unnecessary. So according to you Paul was just plain ignorant concerning his service for the Lord Jesus.

                              Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                              prove it.
                              Before a person could be baptized with water he had to first believe (Acts 36-37). And those who lived under the law were saved and received everlasting life when they believed, as witnessed by the following words of the Lord Jesus:
                              "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life" (Jn.6:47).

                              So those who submitted to the rite of water baptism were saved before a drop of water even touched them. The baptism with water was in regard to "service" and not 'salvation," because with the coming of Christ the Baptist was to "make ready a people prepared for the Lord" so that they "might serve Him...in holiness and righteousness" (Lk.1:17,74,75).

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                                But you said that the baptisms Paul performed on those people were unnecessary. So according to you Paul was just plain ignorant concerning his service for the Lord Jesus.
                                Paul performed unnecessary baptisms

                                no, not from ignorance but from doing what had always been done.

                                Act 16:3 Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those places, for they all knew that his father was a Greek.

                                Before a person could be baptized with water he had to first believe (Acts 36-37). And those who lived under the law were saved and received everlasting life when they believed, as witnessed by the following words of the Lord Jesus:
                                "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life" (Jn.6:47).

                                So those who submitted to the rite of water baptism were saved before a drop of water even touched them. The baptism with water was in regard to "service" and not 'salvation," because with the coming of Christ the Baptist was to "make ready a people prepared for the Lord" so that they "might serve Him...in holiness and righteousness" (Lk.1:17,74,75).
                                you didn't prove it was necessary for Paul to baptize people and
                                since he only baptized 2 people & also the household of Stephanas .
                                what are you trying to prove?

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