ECT Jews know scripture better than the deceitful Supersessionalists

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

This isn't a normal video! I wept as the Jews spoke. Modern day Supersessionalism is as wicked as the Pharisees that would have stoned Jesus for declaring that He was before Abraham, the Great I Am!

I don't expect videos to get watched, usually, but this is no ordinary video and it comes straight from the land where Jesus walked.

If you are a supersessionalist, please watch this! If you know what Jesus has promised to do for Israel, I severely recommend you watch this, despite knowing. This is the most beautiful piece of ministry I have seen any human beings ever assemble, apart from Jesus words to us in all Cannon.

In case an individual doesn't know, supersessionalism is known as "Replacement Theology" or "Spiritual Israel" superseding the real Israel.

And yes, I'm posting this twice. I'm posting it in Religion too, so it is available to those who don't look in ECT.

All Grace to you from our LORD Jesus Christ, ministered to our hearts from His Son's Holy Spirit to the very Glory of His Father,

- Evil.Eye.<(I)>

 

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[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Zechariah 12

The Coming Deliverance of Judah

The burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: 2 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. 3 And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. 4 In that day,” says the Lord, “I will strike every horse with confusion, and its rider with madness; I will open My eyes on the house of Judah, and will strike every horse of the peoples with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength in the Lord of hosts, their God.’ 6 In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—Jerusalem.

7 “The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. 8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

This could only have occurred at Pentecost onward.

LA

 

[Interplanner]

This isn't a normal video! I wept as the Jews spoke. Modern day Supersessionalism is as wicked as the Pharisees that would have stoned Jesus for declaring that He was before Abraham, the Great I Am!

I don't expect videos to get watched, usually, but this is no ordinary video and it comes straight from the land where Jesus walked.

If you are a supersessionalist, please watch this! If you know what Jesus has promised to do for Israel, I severely recommend you watch this, despite knowing. This is the most beautiful piece of ministry I have seen any human beings ever assemble, apart from Jesus words to us in all Cannon.

In case an individual doesn't know, supersessionalism is known as "Replacement Theology" or "Spiritual Israel" superseding the real Israel.

And yes, I'm posting this twice. I'm posting it in Religion too, so it is available to those who don't look in ECT.

All Grace to you from our LORD Jesus Christ, ministered to our hearts from His Son's Holy Spirit to the very Glory of His Father,

- Evil.Eye.<(I)>

The mission of Christ has no connection to any land anywhere. It has the target of the peoples at the ends of the earth, but there is nothing that would connect it to a land. I haven't seen the video, but your introduction shows you don't know what the NT is saying. 'A time is coming and now is, when my followers will worship me neither in this mountain nor that one, but in spirit and truth.' Jn 4, while evangelizing someone 'outside Israel.'

 

[Interplanner]

Rom 11:25 is not Zionist, not in the flow of what Rom 9-11 is saying. It is about the mission of Christ already happening, and 'saved' in Romans never means a restored Israel. If you find one instance, please let me know.

 

[Tambora]

The mission of Christ has no connection to any land anywhere.

Yes it does.

 

[Interplanner]

Yes it does.

"The time is coming and now is, when you will worship me neither in this mountain nor that, but in spirit and truth." The reason 'the time is coming' is there is to echo the OT. That's what it said was coming. So the belief that it has nothing to do with 'sacred ground' was expected that far back. It is there in Isaiah. It sounds like the usual, but smack in the middle of it is "It is too small a thing for you to bring the remnant of Israel; I will make you a light to the nations." That's God the Father speaking to the Son, for it is all fulfilled through the Son.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

The mission of Christ has no connection to any land anywhere. It has the target of the peoples at the ends of the earth, but there is nothing that would connect it to a land. I haven't seen the video, but your introduction shows you don't know what the NT is saying. 'A time is coming and now is, when my followers will worship me neither in this mountain nor that one, but in spirit and truth.' Jn 4, while evangelizing someone 'outside Israel.'

Matthew 10:23 (KJV)
You cannot ignore it forever.

 

[Tambora]

"The time is coming and now is, when you will worship me neither in this mountain nor that, but in spirit and truth." The reason 'the time is coming' is there is to echo the OT. That's what it said was coming. So the belief that it has nothing to do with 'sacred ground' was expected that far back. It is there in Isaiah. It sounds like the usual, but smack in the middle of it is "It is too small a thing for you to bring the remnant of Israel; I will make you a light to the nations." That's God the Father speaking to the Son, for it is all fulfilled through the Son.

Physical Israel was promised and led to physical land.
Physical Israel was scattered from that physical land through out the earth.
Physical Israel is promised a restoration and regathering to the same physical land they were scattered from.

 

[Interplanner]

Physical Israel was promised and led to physical land.
Physical Israel was scattered from that physical land through out the earth.
Physical Israel is promised a restoration and regathering to the same physical land they were scattered from.

ACtually Lk 21 says all that is written of the wrath of God against them took place in that generation of the DofJ, ie, Dan 8-9. You'd think he'd mention some kind of future at that point.

You are way off track and center of what the Bible was written for. The organizing, centering passages of the NT are totally foreign to you. Like Acts 13 or 26, that tell us truly and simply what is going on and what it is supposed to amount to.

 

[Interplanner]

As usual D'ism is insubmissive to the Word. It believes that it knows better and organizes it better.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

ACtually Lk 21 says all that is written of the wrath of God against them took place in that generation of the DofJ, ie, Dan 8-9.

:chuckle:

Made up. That is not what it says.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

You are way off track and center of what the Bible was written for.

Thick thick thick irony...

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

As usual D'ism is insubmissive to the Word. It believes that it knows better and organizes it better.

More irony...

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Luke 21
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.


So, the second coming was not written about? There are many things written in the prophets which were not concluded by 70ad.

Put down the commentaries IP, believe the Bible, and think.

 

[Interplanner]

We need to help the OP with vocabulary.

A session is a meeting or interchange between parties. A supersession would a long or large one of these, for ex., the 40 days that Jesus taught the disciples after the Res.

I believe the OPer was referring to superceding, ie, a supercession, which the spell-check here rejects as it does with an 's'.

If he's talking about RT, then of course to be clear we must go back to Gal 3:17 which is the replacement issue that the NT is concerned with . It is not concerned with the claim by D'ism that the old covenant has been replaced. That should be understood as a matter of course.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

We need to help the OP with vocabulary.

A session is a meeting or interchange between parties. A supersession would a long or large one of these, for ex., the 40 days that Jesus taught the disciples after the Res.

I believe the OPer was referring to superceding, ie, a supercession, which the spell-check here rejects as it does with an 's'.

If he's talking about RT, then of course to be clear we must go back to Gal 3:17 which is the replacement issue that the NT is concerned with . It is not concerned with the claim by D'ism that the old covenant has been replaced. That should be understood as a matter of course.

Oh.

 

[Danoh]

This isn't a normal video! I wept as the Jews spoke. Modern day Supersessionalism is as wicked as the Pharisees that would have stoned Jesus for declaring that He was before Abraham, the Great I Am!

I don't expect videos to get watched, usually, but this is no ordinary video and it comes straight from the land where Jesus walked.

If you are a supersessionalist, please watch this! If you know what Jesus has promised to do for Israel, I severely recommend you watch this, despite knowing. This is the most beautiful piece of ministry I have seen any human beings ever assemble, apart from Jesus words to us in all Cannon.

In case an individual doesn't know, supersessionalism is known as "Replacement Theology" or "Spiritual Israel" superseding the real Israel.

And yes, I'm posting this twice. I'm posting it in Religion too, so it is available to those who don't look in ECT.

All Grace to you from our LORD Jesus Christ, ministered to our hearts from His Son's Holy Spirit to the very Glory of His Father,

- Evil.Eye.<(I)>

Israel AS A NATION was concluded having continued in the wilful blindness of their forefathers before them, in the 1st Century in Acts 7.

At which point, God: AS PLANNED BY HIM ALL ALONG; sealed their BELIEVING Remnant, and TEMPORARILY cut off ISRAEL AS A NATION, from access to their PROPHESIED Promises AS A NATION.

Israel was now UNcircumcision AS A NATION, Rom. 2.

No better off than the Gentiles, Rom. 3.

He then began to offer salvation to both formerly lost INDIVIDUAL Jews and Gentiles AS INDIVIDUALS, end of Rom. 3.

Towards His Purpose via said Gentile or UNcircumcision salvation.

Only at some point AFTER He is through with that, will He turn His attention to make His "short work upon the earth, AT LAST "for this IS my covenant unto THEM" Rom. 9 and Rom. 11.

In short, the various Messianic Jew ministries might mean well, but they are confused.

We are not in Acts 2's Israelite Evangelism.

We are in Acts 9 AFTER Acts 7...and until the other side of Rom. 11:25's "fullness of the Gentiles be come in."

After which...things will head towards the fufillment of Matt. 10:23, see Acts 7:56; Is. 3:13; which was...temporarily interrupted.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

We need to help the OP with vocabulary.

A session is a meeting or interchange between parties. A supersession would a long or large one of these, for ex., the 40 days that Jesus taught the disciples after the Res.

I believe the OPer was referring to superceding, ie, a supercession, which the spell-check here rejects as it does with an 's'.

If he's talking about RT, then of course to be clear we must go back to Gal 3:17 which is the replacement issue that the NT is concerned with . It is not concerned with the claim by D'ism that the old covenant has been replaced. That should be understood as a matter of course.

Liberty University is full of men and women with credentials of humanity. Please take it up with the theological community that you worship.

Link here...

http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=pretrib_arch

Unfortunately, you would be wrong in matters of theological grammar, here, as well.

You've officially been grammatically Back handed by the "OP" Author.

On a funny note... does taking the "al" away from my presentation make the lie of RT any less of a lie?

Answer ... no, it doesn't.