ECT The Freemason and Dispensationalist Connection

dodge

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Yep.

When GOD said this to the nation of Israel did it apply to everyone on the planet?

Deu 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.


Do you see a separation between Jew and Gentile in Isa. 53 ?


sa 53:4
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Or in John 3:16 I don't ?

No, GOD doesn't change in His essence but His dealings with man obviously do change.
That's obvious.

Did God reveal His word through the Jews of course He did ? Even in the OT there are accounts of gentiles receiving blessings and salvation from God. It has always been God's way for relationship with and for Him.

So, was the announcement/euaggelizo/good news/gospel of the birth of Christ the gospel of your salvation?
Can a person be saved by believing the gospel of the birth of Christ at Bethlehem?

No ! It is the placing your faith in, believing , and accepting the gift He provided for you.( Eph.2:8-9)

Why would you even ask this question ? I would say if Jesus had been born anywhere else than prophesied He would not have been the Messiah.
 

Danoh

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Isaiah 52
9 Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the Lord hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem.

Yep.

Isaiah 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Isaiah 60
Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.

2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.

5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
 

musterion

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The influence of Freemasonryin its Jewish derived doctrines and rituals came first, not only for Southern Baptists but for other evangelical denominations in which there were many Freemasons. Dispensationalism became focused on things of the Old Covenant and not only on Jesus Christ in its interest in the Old Covenant and in the Jewish Talmud and Kabballah - both continuations of Old Covenant thought, partly from the Pharisees of Christ's time -

Wut?

Are you completely stupid? That ain't dispism by ANY stretch.
 

musterion

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That's the thing - it IS from where HE has attempted to sort things out.

His approach is off in that aspect (as well as in other aspects).

If he doesn't understand even the most basic tenets of pretty much all dispensational strains - particularly the eschewing of all that was covenant Israel's as not ours - then he's too ignorant to have even started this thread. I am not at fault for pointing that out.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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If he doesn't understand even the most basic tenets of pretty much all dispensational strains - particularly the eschewing of all that was covenant Israel's as not ours - then he's too ignorant to have even started this thread. I am not at fault for pointing that out.

His approach is off by as much as 45% whereas we hybrids are off as much as 35%.
So, we have no room to judge.
 

Danoh

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If he doesn't understand even the most basic tenets of pretty much all dispensational strains - particularly the eschewing of all that was covenant Israel's as not ours - then he's too ignorant to have even started this thread. I am not at fault for pointing that out.

Nope you are not. Was not blaming you.

Beyond ignorant as to Dispensationalism, he is.
 
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