ECT THE UNIQUE HISTORICAL LEGACY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Cruciform

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Consider the following facts regarding Christ's one historic Catholic Church:


Jesus promised, "I will build my Church [not "churchES"], and the powers of hell shall not prevail against it" (Mt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.

The Catholic Church is the only universal Christian Church that has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian group is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The Protestant communities were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today's Protestant groups are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.)

Only the Catholic Church existed in the tenth century, in the fifth century, and in the first century, faithfully teaching the doctrines given by Christ to the apostles, omitting nothing. The line of popes can be traced back, in unbroken succession, to Peter himself. This is unequaled by any institution in history.

Even the oldest government is new compared to the papacy, and the churches that send out door-to-door missionaries are young compared to the Catholic Church. Many of these churches began as recently as the nineteenth or twentieth century. Some even began during your lifetime. None of them can claim to be the Church Jesus established.*


That historical and ecclesiastical status belongs to the Catholic Church alone.



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*http://www.catholic.com/documents/pillar-of-fire-pillar-of-truth
 
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Cruciform

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Which of the seven churches of Jesus Christ is the Catholic Church?
Each is a local church (parish) within the one Catholic Church that Jesus founded, just as all local parish churches (and/or dioceses) are part of Christ's one historic Catholic Church today.



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jamie

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Each is a local church (parish) within the one Catholic Church that Jesus founded, just as all local parish churches (and/or dioceses) are part of Christ's one historic Catholic Church today.

Not true. There are only seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

There are not thousands of local parishes sent forth into all the earth, just seven. Is the Catholic church not one of the seven? And if it is, which one?
 

Cruciform

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Not true. There are only seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. There are not thousands of local parishes sent forth into all the earth, just seven.
Despite your desire to push John's apocryphal symbolism too far, the seven churches in Revelation were still local churches within the one historic Catholic Church, which certainly extended beyond Asia Minor even then.



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chrysostom

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none of those seven churches exist today
and
christians represent less than 1% of the population in the area
 

jamie

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Despite your desire to push John's apocryphal symbolism too far, the seven churches in Revelation were still local churches within the one historic Catholic Church, which certainly extended beyond Asia Minor even then.

Nope. The seven churches of Jesus Christ are prophetic churches in the context of the Day of the Lord.

Which of the seven symbolic churches is the Catholic entity?
 

elohiym

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the one built on a rock

The rock is the Son of God, not Peter. It's the idea that we are the children of God, not Peter is the rock. The Catholic Church is not exclusively the Body of Christ. You don't believe all Catholic doctrine, so why die on this hill? :)listen: Annihilation is not Catholic doctrine.)
 

Cruciform

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The Catholic Church is not exclusively the Body of Christ. See the Catechism, section 460.
And yet, one must first be placed in a sacramental relationship (i.e., Baptism) with the Catholic Church in order to be considered a member of the Body of Christ (Catechism, par. 838).
 
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