ECT When was the word "Catholic" first used?

[Catholic Crusader]

When was the word "Catholic" first used?

When was the word "Catholic" first used?

Catholic Answers Senior Apologist Jimmy Akin explains that
the word "Catholic" was first used to describe the universal
Church as far back as the first century of Christianity.

 

[Catholic Crusader]

There is a thread at the Catholic Answers Forum called "Where does the Bible mention the Greek word Katholikos?"

And I found this answer interesting:

It doesn't mention the word "Katholikos." It does, however, use the phrase, in the book of Acts, "ekklesia kath holos," which is translated "the Church throughout all," and from this we derive the word "katholos."

Ἡ μὲν οὖν ἐκκλησία καθ' ὅλης τῆς Ἰουδαίας καὶ Γαλιλαίας καὶ Σαμαρείας εἶχεν εἰρήνην, οἰκοδομουμένη καὶ πορευομένη τῷ φόβῳ τοῦ κυρίου, καὶ τῇ παρακλήσει τοῦ ἁγίου πνεύματος ἐπληθύνετο.

(Acts 9, 31)

-ACEGC

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=9262455&postcount=2

Also, the prepositional phrase "throughout all" (kath oles) appears in Luke 4:14; Luke 23:5; Acts 9:31; Acts 9:42; Acts 10:37.

 

[HisServant]

The better question would be when Rome co-opted it.

 

[chrysostom]

nicea

325

 

[Catholic Crusader]

nicea

325

Actually the term is first recorded as being used by St. Ignatius of Antioch in the year 107 or thereabouts in regard to the whole Church.

The better question would be when Rome co-opted it.

Peter and Paul founded the Church in Rome. The better question would be why did heretics break away from it

 

[TruthSetsFree]

first written record of the word being used was in the year 107

by St Ignatius

 

[oatmeal]

When was the word "Catholic" first used?

When was the word "Catholic" first used?

Catholic Answers Senior Apologist Jimmy Akin explains that
the word "Catholic" was first used to describe the universal
Church as far back as the first century of Christianity.

In a crossword puzzle in Babylon

 

[Catholic Crusader]

first written record of the word being used was in the year 107 by St Ignatius

That is the generally accepted historical date.

In a crossword puzzle in Babylon

We mock what we do not understand.

 

[DAN P]

There is a thread at the Catholic Answers Forum called "Where does the Bible mention the Greek word Katholikos?"

Hi , and I read all the verses that you have written and NONE used the so-called Greek word for Catholic , Nor could I find it in VINE'S >

katholikos , is not a Greek word , and you write like the the President !!::bang::bang:

dan p:

 

[Catholic Crusader]

Are you drunk?

 

[DAN P]

Are you drunk?

Hi , and anyone can be DRUNK or CLEAR Headed and never will see a Greek called Catholic , kilocolic !!:bang::bang:

dan p

 

[HisServant]

Actually the term is first recorded as being used by St. Ignatius of Antioch in the year 107 or thereabouts in regard to the whole Church.


Peter and Paul founded the Church in Rome. The better question would be why did heretics break away from it

I've pointed out before that your 'church' has no legitimate or documented claim to be based on the church that Jesus started in Jerusalem.

 

[Catholic Crusader]

I've pointed out before that your 'church' has no legitimate or documented claim to be based on the church that Jesus started in Jerusalem.

And I have demonstrated that your statement is false.

 

[Totton Linnet]

Ignatius first used it and the Catholic church is built upon him...it went on to become the RCC which started to sell God's forgiveness for money.

 

[Catholic Crusader]

Ignatius first used it and the Catholic church is built upon him...it went to become the RCC which started to sell God's forgiveness for money.

Seriously? Are going to stick with that ridiculous statement? If you are then you must have a date at which point we "started to sell God's forgiveness for money." Please name the date and the documentation to back it up.

Oh, and regarding the acronym RCC: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94879

 

[Totton Linnet]

I've never yet heard anyone seriously deny that the Pope sold indulgences [pardon] it's what the Reformation row was all about.

The RCC made it a matter of Papal infallibility...so that kills 3 birds with one stone

The selling of forgiveness
The Pope's infallibility
The idea that the Pope is anything to do with Peter [for reference read how Peter dealt with Simon Magus]

 

[Catholic Crusader]

I've never yet heard anyone seriously deny that the Pope sold indulgences [pardon] it's what the Reformation row was all about.

The RCC made it a matter of Papal infallibility...so that kills 3 birds with one stone.................

You are mixing lies with a little truth and are coming up with a false statement.

Yes, indulgences were sold. But long before Pope Julius, the Church had already condemned the sales of indulgences. Indulgences sold during Luther's time were being done against what the Church had previously said. So what we have here are the actions of some corrupt clergy in violation of Church teaching. Is that anything new?

And it was never, ever, EVER tied in with Papal Infallibility in the slightest way. That is a 100% false statement.

And now back to your previous statement that "it went to become the RCC which started to sell God's forgiveness for money", are you saying the Catholic Church did not exist until the 16th century? That's pretty lame.

 

[Catholic Crusader]

Does the Bible anywhere use the term catholic?

The Bible does in fact employ the term catholic. Yet you wouldn't know that by reading your English translation. Remember that the New Testament was originally written in Greek. As I mentioned before, the word catholic comes from the Greek katholikos, from kata ‘in respect of or concerning’ + holos ‘whole’, thus concerning the whole or universal. There are several New Testament passages concerning the Church that employ various forms of these Greek words. Here is one such example.

"So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria had peace and was built up; and walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit it was multiplied" (Acts 9:31).
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The following is a transliteration of this verse from the original Greek:

e men oun ekklesia kath oles tes ioudaias kai galilaias kai samareias eichen eirenen oikodomoumene kai poreuomene to phobo tou kuriou kai te paraklesei tou agiou pneumatos eplethuneto.
ekklesia kath'holes = churches throughout all (universal)
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Hence the word Catholic can in fact be found in the Scriptures.


Source: http://www.catholic.com/blog/hector-molina/on-your-marks-the-church-is-catholic

 

[HisServant]

Does the Bible anywhere use the term catholic?

The Bible does in fact employ the term catholic. Yet you wouldn't know that by reading your English translation. Remember that the New Testament was originally written in Greek. As I mentioned before, the word catholic comes from the Greek katholikos, from kata ‘in respect of or concerning’ + holos ‘whole’, thus concerning the whole or universal. There are several New Testament passages concerning the Church that employ various forms of these Greek words. Here is one such example.

"So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria had peace and was built up; and walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit it was multiplied" (Acts 9:31).
​

The following is a transliteration of this verse from the original Greek:

e men oun ekklesia kath oles tes ioudaias kai galilaias kai samareias eichen eirenen oikodomoumene kai poreuomene to phobo tou kuriou kai te paraklesei tou agiou pneumatos eplethuneto.
ekklesia kath'holes = churches throughout all (universal)
​

Hence the word Catholic can in fact be found in the Scriptures.


Source: http://www.catholic.com/blog/hector-molina/on-your-marks-the-church-is-catholic

Ekklesia != church... not even close. In spite of how badly you want it to.. it just isn't so.

If anything.. one could argue that the Catholic definition of ekklesia is the exact OPPOSITE of what it meant in ancient Greek.

 

[Nick M]

catholic ≠ Roman Catholic