Is Jesus God?

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We have god the father introduced in every epistle, and we have the holy spirit as the same person in Ephesians 4:30 and 1Th 4:8; but we have no such thing with God's son. There is no God the son. Faulty translation and interpretation can explain certain passages which have not been retranslated since Tyndale.

The Spirit of the Son, the Spirit of Christ---is the Spirit of God the Father.
 

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Yes, thank you.

My question though is why would it be impossible for God to know what false propositions are.

The point wasn't that God couldn't discern between what is true and what is false, but that God could not know what a triangle with more than or less than three sides would look like, because of this:

A triangle, by definition, has three sides.

It's not possible to have a triangle that is four sided, or two sided, or any other number of sides other than three.
 

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But He was still above all, was He not?

Who did He receive authority from when He came to earth?

Jesus came from above and lowered himself.
As a man, God the Father taught Him; He really was like men in all ways.
He is higher than any man on earth though, of course.
 

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Jesus came from above and lowered himself.
As a man, God the Father taught Him; He really was like men in all ways.
He is higher than any man on earth though, of course.

But your assertion is that the Jesus IS the Father. So WHO gave authority to Jesus, if He didn't give it to Himself?
 

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Jesus is God the Father come as a man.
Why don't you grasp that?
Jesus came to earth as a man.
That's not what you said earlier:
I did answer you and what I said does explain it.

God really came as a man, and as a man his Father and God was greater than him.
Nor does it answer my question:

If Jesus is God the Father (as you claim), then who gave God the Father all authority?
 

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Jesus is God the Father come as a man.
Why don't you grasp that?
Jesus came to earth as a man.

This is the Roman Catholic claim that Mary was the "Mother of God."

Wrong.

The Father was never born of a woman.

Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son, was born of a woman.

Distinctions matter in order to possess proper theology and beliefs.
 

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That's not what you said earlier:Nor does it answer my question:

If Jesus is God the Father (as you claim), then who gave God the Father all authority?

I have been saying the same thing.

Jesus is God the Father come as a man.
As a man God the Father is on earth in the flesh, while God the Father is in heaven.

There are not three different Spirits making one God.

There isn't a Spirit called the Father, and a different Spirit called the Son, and another Spirit called the Holy Spirit.

God the Father is Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is Him, and Jesus's Spirit on earth as a man's is Him.
 

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This is the Roman Catholic claim that Mary was the "Mother of God."

Wrong.
Mary is the mother of the earthly side of Jesus.
Mary is not the mother of God.
God is the Father and has no mother before Him.
Jesus' spirit is God the Father's Spirit come as a man's.

The Father was never born of a woman.

Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son, was born of a woman.

Distinctions matter in order to possess proper theology and beliefs.
 

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I have been saying the same thing.

Jesus is God the Father come as a man.
As a man God the Father is on earth in the flesh, while God the Father is in heaven.

There are not three different Spirits making one God.

There isn't a Spirit called the Father, and a different Spirit called the Son, and another Spirit called the Holy Spirit.

God the Father is Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is Him, and Jesus's Spirit on earth as a man's is Him.
If Jesus is God the Father (as you claim), then who gave God the Father all authority?
 

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It is in the scriptures.

I used to be a trinitarian until I was in a debate with a person who didn't even believe Jesus was God.
I have a powerful testimony when Jesus himself saved me and came to live in my heart.
When I was studying the scriptures, I came to John 14:23.
That scripture is Jesus saying that when a person is saved, they receive one Spirit, and it is Jesus himself living in the person, and the Father too.

So you have no formal acceptable doctrine?
 

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(sigh) One more time.......

FIRST: God is Trinity, One Being, Three Persons - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

SECOND: The Second Person of the Trinity, the Son, the "Word" (John 1:1,14) became man. Jesus had two natures perfectly joined, divine and human, God and man; the same, consubstantial (homoousios) with the father as to the divinity and consubstantial with us as to the humanity.

This has been Christian doctrine for almost 2,000 years. Please stop trying to re-invent the wheel
 

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My question though is why would it be impossible for God to know what false propositions are.

It's not impossible for God to know what false propositions are; He does know what false propositions are. For instance, God knows that the false proposition, 'Some triangles have more than three sides', is a false proposition. Of every false proposition, God knows the truth that it is falsehood. He knows all the true propositions about all the false propositions.
 
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