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You just proved you deny the scriptures.
The Gospel Verses Predestination
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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You just proved you deny the scriptures.
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That is not scripture.
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No one is literally dead.
We are flesh and spirit.
Some people want more out of life then pleasing their flesh with sin.
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You are too afraid to read what I say.
Why don't you read and reply to what I say?
The Bible is not full of words not meaning what it really says.
God says plainly that He loves those who love Him.
God does not make people love Him.
That is not love to do so.
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You would have to repent for believing and teaching what John Calvin says instead of what the word of God says.
beloved57
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No you proved you deny the scripture. Man by nature born under sin doesnt seek God, none do Rom 3:9-11
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Im not speaking about born again men and women who have been made free by Christ but men by nature born under sin. I have explained this to you many times and you ignore it.
beloved57
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You dont believe the word of God, Rom 3:9-11
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There is no such scriptures that say what Calvinists believe.
God says He loves those who love Him.
Calvinists go against God and say, "No, no one loves you".
Jesus says to believe and obey and then he will save you.
Calvinists say no that is not what Jesus really meant, Jesus really meant that no one can believe and obey him.
What a pathetic place people put themselves in when they fall for false doctrines such as Calvinism.
God says He loves those who love Him.
Calvinists go against God and say, "No, no one loves you".
Jesus says to believe and obey and then he will save you.
Calvinists say no that is not what Jesus really meant, Jesus really meant that no one can believe and obey him.
What a pathetic place people put themselves in when they fall for false doctrines such as Calvinism.
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God really says you have to believe and obey Him to get saved.
Did God really say that?
Yes, God really did say that.
Does that mean no one can believe and obey Him so He will save them first to believe and obey?
No. Nowhere anywhere in the Bible does God say that.
That twisted strangeness goes against God all the way.
beloved57
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You still deny Rom 3:9-11
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I deny no scripture.
Salvation has ALREADY been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Everyone has ALREADY been reconciled unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
Salvation is now offered to EVERYONE as a free gift from God, Ephesians 2:9.
You and the Calvinist are in denial of the Gospel. Salvation always has been and always will be by grace through faith. No works or obedience required.
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No one is reconciled to God until Jesus chooses to give that person his Spirit and put the person's spirit in him. That is reconciliation.
HOGWASH!
The scripture plainly says that the whole world has ALREADY been reconciled unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith apart from the works of the law.
Share that face to face when you go to North Korea and see how they respond.
Share that with ISIS and see how they respond...
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Paul is speaking of himself and the other Christians that were reconciled.
I can hardly believe you deny what it is to be reconciled to God.
Being reconciled to God is to be given His Spirit and us put in Him.
2 Corinthians 5:20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.
What ISIS is and does, has no bearing on the Gospel.
The scripture remains, "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.
Jesus is God's reconciler. In our name and on our behalf Jesus has fulfilled God's holy law, Matthew 5:18 and has abolished it, Ephesians 2:15. In our name and on our behalf, Jesus has atoned for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. So that now... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
The world is not universal. The text around the sentence you quote proves this. But, you and the other universalists refuse to consider the whole scope of God's word to inform your thoughts.
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for, reconciled to God are still lost and damned !