musterion
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You gonna post that video first?
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II
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You gonna post that video first?
musterion
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Okay I have my 1st 3 pics. Just one more to go.
Anyone else besides Clete and I taking pics?? Come on folks we need other points on the map covered.
Anyone else besides Clete and I taking pics?? Come on folks we need other points on the map covered.
Maybe a couple of folks drove out to the country to get really good pics, and we have to wait till they get home and download the pics.
(Does that keep the hope alive a little longer?
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If two globers agree to watch the whole 25 minutes, seeing it and hearing; paying attention etc. I can post it whenever or save it for the weekend. @Judge Rightly ? @Knight ? [MENTION=2589]Clete[/MENTION] ?
Okay so here are today's 4 images - please click on them to enlarge them. The images are taken at 6PM, 7PM, 8PM and 9PM mountain time. This time I have centered the sun horizontally in each picture therefore I am no longer pointing due west. I admit these are not great. I'm getting better at this but it takes some practice. Even still there are some things we can learn from these images.
Here is the first image at 12amUTC or 6PM mountain time. This was before I had calibrated the sun within the app (it wasn't off by much but calibrating with the gyroscope feature makes it far more accurate). There are instructions on how to do that here. Note in this image the sun isn't actually in the shot. It's still too high in the sky with my camera pointed level at the horizon line.
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My next image at 1amUTC or 7PM mountain time the sun comes into the picture and I have calibrated the app to accurately sync with the position of the sun. The sun is still well above the horizon line. This image is also bad because my fingers were partially in the frame which I couldn't see because the sun was very bright. This was my worst effort to date. :chuckle:
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My next image is at 2amUTC or 8PM mountain time and the sun has just set which you can see in the image. In fact the sun is a tad below the horizon line which is marked by the Spyglass app.
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And my final image is at 3amUTC or 9PM mountain time. It is almost completely dark and the sun is now well below the horizon line. While the image is a tad blurry due to the darkness the sun is exactly centered in the pic and I had my phone pretty level to the horizon line this time.
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Just with these pictures alone I think there is some very damning evidence to the Flat Earth theory. But I'm gonna hold off on that for now. I want to see if any other pics come in.
Here is the first image at 12amUTC or 6PM mountain time. This was before I had calibrated the sun within the app (it wasn't off by much but calibrating with the gyroscope feature makes it far more accurate). There are instructions on how to do that here. Note in this image the sun isn't actually in the shot. It's still too high in the sky with my camera pointed level at the horizon line.
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My next image at 1amUTC or 7PM mountain time the sun comes into the picture and I have calibrated the app to accurately sync with the position of the sun. The sun is still well above the horizon line. This image is also bad because my fingers were partially in the frame which I couldn't see because the sun was very bright. This was my worst effort to date. :chuckle:
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My next image is at 2amUTC or 8PM mountain time and the sun has just set which you can see in the image. In fact the sun is a tad below the horizon line which is marked by the Spyglass app.
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And my final image is at 3amUTC or 9PM mountain time. It is almost completely dark and the sun is now well below the horizon line. While the image is a tad blurry due to the darkness the sun is exactly centered in the pic and I had my phone pretty level to the horizon line this time.
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Just with these pictures alone I think there is some very damning evidence to the Flat Earth theory. But I'm gonna hold off on that for now. I want to see if any other pics come in.
Here's my pics for the evening of 5/8/18 from 00:00 - 03:00 UCT (7pm - 10pm local time)...
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The Sun was blasting me right in the face and I couldn't see my screen hardly at all. As a result, the Sun is slightly off center but is at 282.9° and +12.5° above the horizon.
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Sun is at 290.1° and +.1° above horizon
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Sun is at 298.2° and -11.8° below horizon
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Sun is at aprox. 308° and more than +20° below horizon (well off the bottom of the shot)
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The Sun was blasting me right in the face and I couldn't see my screen hardly at all. As a result, the Sun is slightly off center but is at 282.9° and +12.5° above the horizon.
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Sun is at 290.1° and +.1° above horizon
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Sun is at 298.2° and -11.8° below horizon
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Sun is at aprox. 308° and more than +20° below horizon (well off the bottom of the shot)
Yes actually you could. Do it along with us and see what ya get! Use the Spyglass app if you can. But now you will have to wait for tomorrow. 12am, 1am, 2am, and 3am UTC is the time to shoot. Have the image landscape like mine with the horizon line centered vertically and the position of the sun (regardless if you can see it) positioned in the center horizontally.
Hey Patrick can you give me a link or post an image of a flat earth map that you feel is a good representation of what you believe the earth looks like?? Something like this....
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But please find me a image that you approve of.
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But please find me a image that you approve of.
No. I had that right. I just hadn't calibrated the sun. Did you do that yet? You have to turn on "Gyrocompass" to do it. Watch this video...
Take a look at this...
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Then look at your photos and look at how far east your phone thinks North is from True North. As we say here in Texas, that just aint right.
I use this app nearly every day because I have to know which direction the house I'm inspecting faces and most of the neighborhood streets here run in any direction other than straight east/west or north/south. I've found that just telling to to use true north is the best way to get the thing to work right. You do that simply by going into settings and turning off the magnetic north toggle. You'll know you have it right when that tiny little plus sign is directly under North on the compass.
I notice that is sure has your Sun position nailed perfectly. Maybe both turning off magnetic north AND calibrating the Sun position is necessary to get the best data.
Clete
Mine showed off too. I'll try again tomorrow and hope for clear skies. I do have the one I posted at exactly 7 pm the other day but I'll get two from the same evening.
That will be midnight to 3am, my time. :noid:
Edit. Wait, I can't count. That will be lunchtime to 3pm.
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Don’t worry too much about the settings. I mainly want to see your 8pm and 9pm shots.
I did an navigation course 15 years ago and we were told to compensate by 3 degrees because Magnetic North was moving. Link to more up to date information. https://gisgeography.com/magnetic-north-vs-geographic-true-pole/
Yeah, I was playing with the settings some last night and now I'm not so sure either. If magnetic north is turned off then I'm sure it's all good.
The little x is pointing at Polaris rather than at true north. That has to be where the discrepancy is coming from. Regardless, where that little x is doesn't effect the information you're wanting either way.
The magnetic declination can be quite significant in some locations. If you live on the green line in the image below then you magnetic compass will point directly at the north pole. Each line on either side of the green line represents plus or minus 2° of declination. In addition, as you said, those lines are moving around as time goes by. The pic below, while based on a computer model, is basically accurate as of 2015.
For me, here in Houston, it's off by about -2° but for Knight over in Denver it's closer to -8°, while someone in the east will be off by +10° or more. From Washington state to Main there is more than a 30° swing in magnetic declination.
I wonder what the FE folks think about the magnetic field of the Earth?
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