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  • Originally posted by john w View Post
    As I said-you are quite harmless, irrelevant. Not many take you seriously. You're just like a toy, with whom dogs play.
    I know many do not take me seriously because too many "saved" Christians do not take Jesus' word seriously.

    Jesus' affirmation counts the most

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    • Your "Christ and Jew hating" comment is vicious comment and hateful.

      because none of them is true about my faith.

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      • Originally posted by meshak View Post
        I know many do not take me seriously because too many "saved" Christians do not take Jesus' word seriously.

        Jesus' affirmation counts the most
        I take the words of Jesus very seriously.

        Jesus said that we should love our neighbors as our self. This means that if you know of someone that has less of this worlds goods than you do, then you should go sell what you have and give it to them. Have you done that one?

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        • Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
          I take the words of Jesus very seriously.
          Sure you do, demon, as you, on record, say that 3/4 of what we know as the bible, Genesis-John, no longer exists.

          Devil child Pate asserts, on record, that the Saviour did not die for our sin debt/IOU, paying our debt, in our place, as the solution, and, instead, asserts, on record, that this "Jesus" is an incompetent, impotent fool,UNABLE TO DIE FOR ALL OF OUR SINS, future sins, as is God the Father, for even sending Him to die, as devil child Pate's "solution" to the sin/sins problem, is to eliminate the law that defines the sin/transgression, thus, "presto," there is no offense/transgression/sin for which to die, instead of the Saviour dying for our future sin debt. Do you all "get that," TOL audience? That, in simple terms, is this satanist "argument," breaking it down. Again, Pate asserts that the solution to the sin/sins issue, is not that the Saviour died for our sin debt in the future, which is contrary to us, for breaking the LORD God's perfect,good, holy,just, spiritual law, and a reflection of His character to both the saved and lost, and not that we are the problem, but the problem is with the law, as it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not spiritual, as laws against murder, rape, lying, stealing......are all contrary to us, so, instead of the Saviour dying in our place, to satisfy the debt/IOU, abolish the law, so that there is no offense/transgression/sin for which He should die, and thus abolish the Saviour's work, as Pate asserts that the Saviour DID NOT DIE FOR OUR FUTURE SINS, SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DIE, for our future sins/sin debt. Thus, Pate asserts he died in vain, for nothing, as his "solution" is to abolish/eliminate/destroy/make void the law, so that there is no future sin/transgression/offense, and associated/corresponding wage/sin debt to be paid for. Again-Pate-Christ died in vain.


          Mayor STP:"It's not that complicated."




          Pate argues that the solution to the sins issue, is not Christ dying for our sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, to blot out/wipe out/pay for the sin debt, both past/future, "man's IOU" for breaking the good, holy, spiritual law of God, per Paul, in Romans 7, which Paul asserts is not void, as the problem is not with man, but with the God's law, as he asserts that it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not just, it is not spiritual, as it is the law, that is contrary/against us, according to Pate, those troublesome prohibitions against murder, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery, lying......and not the sin debt/IOU that is contrary to/against us; Again, Pate denies that the sin debt/IOU is contrary/ against us, as He asserts that God's laws against murder, lying, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery,......................................are contrary/against us, are not for our benefit, are not good, not holy, not spiritual; His "solution" is for the LORD God to destroy/abolish/make void the law, so there is no offense to break, in the future, not Christ dying for our sins, He paying the debt/IOU for us, in our place.



          Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that Christ died in vain, there was no reason to die, as He did not need to die to pay our IOU/sin debt, as all the LORD God had to do, was destroy/abolish/make void/eliminate the law, so there would not be a sin debt/IOU. Thus, he then,like the devil attempts to ...

          Delete "the handwriting of ordinances" of Colossians 2:14 KJV, replacing it with "law/ordinances," thus perverting, corrupting the scriptures, making it look like Paul says that Christ blotted out, made void, the law/ordinances, making it look like Paul is saying that the law/ordinances are contrary/against us, not for our benefit, instead of Paul saying that the sin debt/IOU was blotted out, as that is what is contrary to us, against us, as Paul asserts that the law is perfect, good, holy, just, spiritual, not void, in Romans 11, and the problem is with man, and the sin debt/IOU for breaking a good, holy, spiritual law, not the law itself.



          Pate says the opposite, asserting that the problem is with the law, as it is not prefect/good/holy/spiritual,as he asserts that it causes us to sin, as it is sin, and the problem is not with man/him, and he asserts that the solution is to assert that Christ came to destroy/abolish/blot out the law, not to die for man's breaking the good, holy, spiritual, law of God.



          The "secular" example of Pate's "reasoning::



          Pate gets a speeding ticket. He goes to court, and, in front of the judge...



          Pate:Judge, I demand that you abolish/destroy the law against speeding. It is not a good law, because I/others cannot keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This law is not for my benefit, or society's-it is contrary to/against me/society!!!!!!!!!! Abolish it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And, if you do not abolish it, it automatically condemns me, judges me, as guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





          The judge: No, the laws are good, and are for everyone's benefit, including yours. They are not against you, are not contrary to you, they are not against society, they are not contrary to society, -they stand. The problem is with you/others breaking these good laws, and the debt you/others must pay for these offenses(sins) you committed. That is what is contrary to/against you/others. Pay the fine. The law cannot condemn you, just because it is in place.



          Pate: No!!!!! Abolish the law!!!!!!!



          The judge: Either pay the fine, or go to jail-the law stands.



          Pate: No!!!!The laws are not good-they are the problem, not me!!!!





          Benevolent, gracious judge: Tell you what, Pate. Someone just paid your fine/debt/IOU(sin, offense, transgression) on your behalf. Justice is served. You are free to go(Christ died for our sins....paying the sin debt, IOU)



          Pate: No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That person need not have paid my fine/debt!!!!!(Christ need not die to pay the sin debt/IOU). The solution is to abolish, destroy, make void, the laws against speeding(fill in the blank), so that we will not have to "do" these laws, obey them, and the solution is not the fine being satisfied(Christ-propitiation)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



          Benevolent, gracious judge: Lock up this man for dementia, contempt of court, lunacy-put him in a straight jacket.


          And now, in wickedness, attempt to delete Genesis-John. You will lose, demon:

          Matthew 24:35 KJV Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.



          1 Peter KJV
          25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
          Last edited by john w; April 6th, 2018, 09:39 AM.
          Saint John W

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          • Originally posted by john w View Post
            Sure you do, demon, as you, on record, say that 3/4 of what we know as the bible, Genesis-John, no longer exist.
            Devil child Pate asserts, on record, that the Saviour did not die for our sin debt/IOU, paying our debt, in our place, as the solution, and, instead, asserts, on record, that this "Jesus" is an incompetent, impotent fool,UNABLE TO DIE FOR ALL OF OUR SINS, future sins, as is God the Father, for even sending Him to die, as devil child Pate's "solution" to the sin/sins problem, is to eliminate the law that defines the sin/transgression, thus, "presto," there is no offense/transgression/sin for which to die, instead of the Saviour dying for our future sin debt. Do you all "get that," TOL audience? That, in simple terms, is this satanist "argument," breaking it down. Again, Pate asserts that the solution to the sin/sins issue, is not that the Saviour died for our sin debt in the future, which is contrary to us, for breaking the LORD God's perfect,good, holy,just, spiritual law, and a reflection of His character to both the saved and lost, and not that we are the problem, but the problem is with the law, as it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not spiritual, as laws against murder, rape, lying, stealing......are all contrary to us, so, instead of the Saviour dying in our place, to satisfy the debt/IOU, abolish the law, so that there is no offense/transgression/sin for which He should die, and thus abolish the Saviour's work, as Pate asserts that the Saviour DID NOT DIE FOR OUR FUTURE SINS, SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DIE, for our future sins/sin debt. Thus, Pate asserts he died in vain, for nothing, as his "solution" is to abolish/eliminate/destroy/make void the law, so that there is no future sin/transgression/offense, and associated/corresponding wage/sin debt to be paid for. Again-Pate-Christ died in vain.


            Mayor STP:"It's not that complicated."




            Pate argues that the solution to the sins issue, is not Christ dying for our sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, to blot out/wipe out/pay for the sin debt, both past/future, "man's IOU" for breaking the good, holy, spiritual law of God, per Paul, in Romans 7, which Paul asserts is not void, as the problem is not with man, but with the God's law, as he asserts that it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not just, it is not spiritual, as it is the law, that is contrary/against us, according to Pate, those troublesome prohibitions against murder, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery, lying......and not the sin debt/IOU that is contrary to/against us; Again, Pate denies that the sin debt/IOU is contrary/ against us, as He asserts that God's laws against murder, lying, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery,......................................are contrary/against us, are not for our benefit, are not good, not holy, not spiritual; His "solution" is for the LORD God to destroy/abolish/make void the law, so there is no offense to break, in the future, not Christ dying for our sins, He paying the debt/IOU for us, in our place.



            Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that Christ died in vain, there was no reason to die, as He did not need to die to pay our IOU/sin debt, as all the LORD God had to do, was destroy/abolish/make void/eliminate the law, so there would not be a sin debt/IOU. Thus, he then,like the devil attempts to ...

            Delete "the handwriting of ordinances" of Colossians 2:14 KJV, replacing it with "law/ordinances," thus perverting, corrupting the scriptures, making it look like Paul says that Christ blotted out, made void, the law/ordinances, making it look like Paul is saying that the law/ordinances are contrary/against us, not for our benefit, instead of Paul saying that the sin debt/IOU was blotted out, as that is what is contrary to us, against us, as Paul asserts that the law is perfect, good, holy, just, spiritual, not void, in Romans 11, and the problem is with man, and the sin debt/IOU for breaking a good, holy, spiritual law, not the law itself.



            Pate says the opposite, asserting that the problem is with the law, as it is not prefect/good/holy/spiritual,as he asserts that it causes us to sin, as it is sin, and the problem is not with man/him, and he asserts that the solution is to assert that Christ came to destroy/abolish/blot out the law, not to die for man's breaking the good, holy, spiritual, law of God.



            The "secular" example of Pate's "reasoning::



            Pate gets a speeding ticket. He goes to court, and, in front of the judge...



            Pate:Judge, I demand that you abolish/destroy the law against speeding. It is not a good law, because I/others cannot keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This law is not for my benefit, or society's-it is contrary to/against me/society!!!!!!!!!! Abolish it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And, if you do not abolish it, it automatically condemns me, judges me, as guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





            The judge: No, the laws are good, and are for everyone's benefit, including yours. They are not against you, are not contrary to you, they are not against society, they are not contrary to society, -they stand. The problem is with you/others breaking these good laws, and the debt you/others must pay for these offenses(sins) you committed. That is what is contrary to/against you/others. Pay the fine. The law cannot condemn you, just because it is in place.



            Pate: No!!!!! Abolish the law!!!!!!!



            The judge: Either pay the fine, or go to jail-the law stands.



            Pate: No!!!!The laws are not good-they are the problem, not me!!!!





            Benevolent, gracious judge: Tell you what, Pate. Someone just paid your fine/debt/IOU(sin, offense, transgression) on your behalf. Justice is served. You are free to go(Christ died for our sins....paying the sin debt, IOU)



            Pate: No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That person need not have paid my fine/debt!!!!!(Christ need not die to pay the sin debt/IOU). The solution is to abolish, destroy, make void, the laws against speeding(fill in the blank), so that we will not have to "do" these laws, obey them, and the solution is not the fine being satisfied(Christ-propitiation)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



            Benevolent, gracious judge: Lock up this man for dementia, contempt of court, lunacy-put him in a straight jacket.


            And now, in wickedness, attempt to delete Genesis-John. You will lose, demon:

            Matthew 24:35 KJV Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.



            1 Peter KJV
            25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

            All of that and no scripture. How can you believe anything that anyone says if they can't back up what they believe with scripture? Answer is you can't.

            Another problem with TOL's most beloved member is that he is full of hate and bitterness. He has the Spirit of a demon. Christians don't call other Christians demons. This is why John wrote, "Try the Spirits to see if they be of God" 1 John 4:1.

            We are COMPLETE in Jesus Christ, Colossians 2:10. Sin, death, the devil, and the wretched law that condemns, has been abolished.

            Where there is law there is judgment and condemnation. There is no condemnation to those that are "In Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.

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            • Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
              All of that and no scripture. How can you believe anything that anyone says if they can't back up what they believe with scripture? Answer is you can't.
              No, you piece of satanic trash, you keep spamming that, you demon-that is what your daddy devil tells you to do. I've given you 4 times the amount of scriptures you give,as have others, explaining them, in context, not posting them in isolation, as you do, wolf, deleting the surrounding verses, satanically, and deleting 3/4 of the bible.

              Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
              You are trying to use Old Testament scripture to make your point. There is a problem with that. The Old Testament along with the Old Covenant have been abolished.The OT is nothing but history


              This is why Pate, on record, deletes:

              Psalms 111 KJV

              7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.

              8 They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.


              Pate, on record, deletes:


              1 Peter 1:25 KJV But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.



              Pate, on record, deletes:

              Matthew 5:17 KJV Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


              Matthew 24:35 KJV Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

              TELL ALL OF TOL WHY YOU DELETE THESE VERSES, Pope Pate-go ahead.

              Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
              You are trying to use Old Testament scripture to make your point. There is a problem with that. The Old Testament along with the Old Covenant have been abolished.The OT is nothing but history
              The above will send you packing to hell demon-you delete these scriptures, that I/others quote, you wicked devil child:


              John 5:39 KJV Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

              Pate: To h with you, God-I will attempt to delete 3/4 of scriptures, to prevent this "Jesus" from being known!!I, POPE Pate, have deleted/abolished this verse.


              Romans 3:21 KJV
              21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

              Pate: To h with you, God-I will attempt to delete 3/4 of scriptures, including the law, since it testifies to the righteousness of God without the law, and I need to prevent this teaching, on orders from my daddy the devil.I, POPE Pate, have deleted/abolished this verse.



              Luke 24:44 KJV And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.


              Pate: To h with you, God-I will attempt to delete 3/4 of scriptures, to prevent this "Jesus" from being known!!I, POPE Pate, have deleted/abolished this verse.

              Psalm 40:7 KJV Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

              Hebrews 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

              Pate: To h with you, God-I will attempt to delete 3/4 of scriptures, to prevent this "Jesus" from being known!!I, POPE Pate, have deleted/abolished these verses.


              Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
              You are trying to use Old Testament scripture to make your point. There is a problem with that. The Old Testament along with the Old Covenant have been abolished.



              1 Corinthians 10 KJV

              11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.




              Romans 15 KJV


              4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.



              No, no, no, Paul!!!!!!!You are trying to use Old Testament scripture to make your point. There is a problem with that. The Old Testament along with the Old Covenant have been abolished, Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!.And no, Paul, the things that happened to others in the Old Testament for examples, for our admonition, and those things written for our learning in the Old Testament, to teach us patience, and provide us hope, do not!!!!!!!!!They no longer exists, as the Old Testament scriptures have been abolished!!!!!

              I, POPE Pate, have deleted/abolished these verses, Paul!!!!!!

              http://www.freewebs.com/thywordis/PA...20THE%20OT.htm


              You wicked bible hater/deleter.

              [QUOTE=Robert Pate;5225141]Another problem with TOL's most beloved member is that he is full of hate and bitterness. He has the Spirit of a demon. Christians don't call other Christians demons. This is why John wrote, "Try the Spirits to see if they be of God" 1 John 4:1.

              Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
              We are COMPLETE in Jesus Christ, Colossians 2:10. Sin, death, the devil, and the wretched law that condemns, has been abolished.

              Quite irrelevant spam. That's all this punk does-spams random verses, deletes surrounding verses, including the entire OT, does no expounding, and then satanically thinks he has proven that the holy, perfect, just, good law of God, no longer exists.

              Originally posted by Robert Pate View Post
              Where there is law there is judgment and condemnation. There is no condemnation to those that are "In Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.
              There it is-he asserts that if the law of God exists, everyone is automatically judged by it as guilty.

              Pate: If the laws of foreign countries exist, US citizens are judged and condemned by them.

              That is this satranist's demonic, intoxicated "logic."


              Again, on record, his "solution to the sin problem, is not that Christ died for our past/future sins,the sin debt, but to eliminate the law of God, SO THAT THERE IS NO DEBT TO BE PAID FOR BREAKING THE LAW, SINCE IT DOES NOT EXIST.

              Devil child Pate asserts, on record, that the Saviour did not die for our sin debt/IOU, paying our debt, in our place, as the solution, and, instead, asserts, on record, that this "Jesus" is an incompetent, impotent fool,UNABLE TO DIE FOR ALL OF OUR SINS, future sins, as is God the Father, for even sending Him to die, as devil child Pate's "solution" to the sin/sins problem, is to eliminate the law that defines the sin/transgression, thus, "presto," there is no offense/transgression/sin for which to die, instead of the Saviour dying for our future sin debt. Do you all "get that," TOL audience? That, in simple terms, is this satanist "argument," breaking it down. Again, Pate asserts that the solution to the sin/sins issue, is not that the Saviour died for our sin debt in the future, which is contrary to us, for breaking the LORD God's perfect,good, holy,just, spiritual law, and a reflection of His character to both the saved and lost, and not that we are the problem, but the problem is with the law, as it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not spiritual, as laws against murder, rape, lying, stealing......are all contrary to us, so, instead of the Saviour dying in our place, to satisfy the debt/IOU, abolish the law, so that there is no offense/transgression/sin for which He should die, and thus abolish the Saviour's work, as Pate asserts that the Saviour DID NOT DIE FOR OUR FUTURE SINS, SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DIE, for our future sins/sin debt. Thus, Pate asserts he died in vain, for nothing, as his "solution" is to abolish/eliminate/destroy/make void the law, so that there is no future sin/transgression/offense, and associated/corresponding wage/sin debt to be paid for.

              Again-Pate-Christ died in vain.


              Mayor STP:"It's not that complicated."


              Pate argues that the solution to the sins issue, is not Christ dying for our sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, to blot out/wipe out/pay for the sin debt, both past/future, "man's IOU" for breaking the good, holy, spiritual law of God, per Paul, in Romans 7, which Paul asserts is not void, as the problem is not with man, but with the God's law, as he asserts that it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not just, it is not spiritual, as it is the law, that is contrary/against us, according to Pate, those troublesome prohibitions against murder, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery, lying......and not the sin debt/IOU that is contrary to/against us; Again, Pate denies that the sin debt/IOU is contrary/ against us, as He asserts that God's laws against murder, lying, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery,......................................are contrary/against us, are not for our benefit, are not good, not holy, not spiritual; His "solution" is for the LORD God to destroy/abolish/make void the law, so there is no offense to break, in the future, not Christ dying for our sins, He paying the debt/IOU for us, in our place.



              Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that Christ died in vain, there was no reason to die, as He did not need to die to pay our IOU/sin debt, as all the LORD God had to do, was destroy/abolish/make void/eliminate the law, so there would not be a sin debt/IOU. Thus, he then,like the devil attempts to ...

              Delete "the handwriting of ordinances" of Colossians 2:14 KJV, replacing it with "law/ordinances," thus perverting, corrupting the scriptures, making it look like Paul says that Christ blotted out, made void, the law/ordinances, making it look like Paul is saying that the law/ordinances are contrary/against us, not for our benefit, instead of Paul saying that the sin debt/IOU was blotted out, as that is what is contrary to us, against us, as Paul asserts that the law is perfect, good, holy, just, spiritual, not void, in Romans 11, and the problem is with man, and the sin debt/IOU for breaking a good, holy, spiritual law, not the law itself.



              Pate says the opposite, asserting that the problem is with the law, as it is not prefect/good/holy/spiritual,as he asserts that it causes us to sin, as it is sin, and the problem is not with man/him, and he asserts that the solution is to assert that Christ came to destroy/abolish/blot out the law, not to die for man's breaking the good, holy, spiritual, law of God.



              The "secular" example of Pate's "reasoning::



              Pate gets a speeding ticket. He goes to court, and, in front of the judge...



              Pate:Judge, I demand that you abolish/destroy the law against speeding. It is not a good law, because I/others cannot keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This law is not for my benefit, or society's-it is contrary to/against me/society!!!!!!!!!! Abolish it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And, if you do not abolish it, it automatically condemns me, judges me, as guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





              The judge: No, the laws are good, and are for everyone's benefit, including yours. They are not against you, are not contrary to you, they are not against society, they are not contrary to society, -they stand. The problem is with you/others breaking these good laws, and the debt you/others must pay for these offenses(sins) you committed. That is what is contrary to/against you/others. Pay the fine. The law cannot condemn you, just because it is in place.



              Pate: No!!!!! Abolish the law!!!!!!!



              The judge: Either pay the fine, or go to jail-the law stands.



              Pate: No!!!!The laws are not good-they are the problem, not me!!!!





              Benevolent, gracious judge: Tell you what, Pate. Someone just paid your fine/debt/IOU(sin, offense, transgression) on your behalf. Justice is served. You are free to go(Christ died for our sins....paying the sin debt, IOU)



              Pate: No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That person need not have paid my fine/debt!!!!!(Christ need not die to pay the sin debt/IOU). The solution is to abolish, destroy, make void, the laws against speeding(fill in the blank), so that we will not have to "do" these laws, obey them, and the solution is not the fine being satisfied(Christ-propitiation)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



              Benevolent, gracious judge: Lock up this man for dementia, contempt of court, lunacy-put him in a straight jacket.


              And now, in wickedness, attempt to delete Genesis-John. You will lose, demon:
              Saint John W

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              • Again, on record, Pate's "solution" to the sin problem, is not that Christ died for our past/future sins,the sin debt, but to eliminate the law of God, SO THAT THERE IS NO DEBT TO BE PAID FOR BREAKING THE LAW, SINCE IT DOES NOT EXIST.Thus, Christ did not die for our future sins also,according to Pate, since there is no law, that defines what sin/transgression was committed. No law, no transgression, and thus no need for Christ to die, to pay for our sin debt, since there is no sin debt, according to this demon Pate.,



                Devil child Pate asserts, on record, that the Saviour did not die for our sin debt/IOU, paying our debt, in our place, as the solution, and, instead, asserts, on record, that this "Jesus" is an incompetent, impotent fool,UNABLE TO DIE FOR ALL OF OUR SINS, future sins, as is God the Father, for even sending Him to die, as devil child Pate's "solution" to the sin/sins problem, is to eliminate the law that defines the sin/transgression, thus, "presto," there is no offense/transgression/sin for which to die, instead of the Saviour dying for our future sin debt. Do you all "get that," TOL audience? That, in simple terms, is this satanist "argument," breaking it down. Again, Pate asserts that the solution to the sin/sins issue, is not that the Saviour died for our sin debt in the future, which is contrary to us, for breaking the LORD God's perfect,good, holy,just, spiritual law, and a reflection of His character to both the saved and lost, and not that we are the problem, but the problem is with the law, as it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not spiritual, as laws against murder, rape, lying, stealing......are all contrary to us, so, instead of the Saviour dying in our place, to satisfy the debt/IOU, abolish the law, so that there is no offense/transgression/sin for which He should die, and thus abolish the Saviour's work, as Pate asserts that the Saviour DID NOT DIE FOR OUR FUTURE SINS, SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DIE, for our future sins/sin debt. Thus, Pate asserts he died in vain, for nothing, as his "solution" is to abolish/eliminate/destroy/make void the law, so that there is no future sin/transgression/offense, and associated/corresponding wage/sin debt to be paid for.

                Again-Pate-Christ died in vain.


                Mayor STP:"It's not that complicated."


                Pate argues that the solution to the sins issue, is not Christ dying for our sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, to blot out/wipe out/pay for the sin debt, both past/future, "man's IOU" for breaking the good, holy, spiritual law of God, per Paul, in Romans 7, which Paul asserts is not void, as the problem is not with man, but with the God's law, as he asserts that it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not just, it is not spiritual, as it is the law, that is contrary/against us, according to Pate, those troublesome prohibitions against murder, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery, lying......and not the sin debt/IOU that is contrary to/against us; Again, Pate denies that the sin debt/IOU is contrary/ against us, as He asserts that God's laws against murder, lying, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery,......................................are contrary/against us, are not for our benefit, are not good, not holy, not spiritual; His "solution" is for the LORD God to destroy/abolish/make void the law, so there is no offense to break, in the future, not Christ dying for our sins, He paying the debt/IOU for us, in our place.



                Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that Christ died in vain, there was no reason to die, as He did not need to die to pay our IOU/sin debt, as all the LORD God had to do, was destroy/abolish/make void/eliminate the law, so there would not be a sin debt/IOU. Thus, he then,like the devil attempts to ...

                Delete "the handwriting of ordinances" of Colossians 2:14 KJV, replacing it with "law/ordinances," thus perverting, corrupting the scriptures, making it look like Paul says that Christ blotted out, made void, the law/ordinances, making it look like Paul is saying that the law/ordinances are contrary/against us, not for our benefit, instead of Paul saying that the sin debt/IOU was blotted out, as that is what is contrary to us, against us, as Paul asserts that the law is perfect, good, holy, just, spiritual, not void, in Romans 11, and the problem is with man, and the sin debt/IOU for breaking a good, holy, spiritual law, not the law itself.



                Pate says the opposite, asserting that the problem is with the law, as it is not prefect/good/holy/spiritual,as he asserts that it causes us to sin, as it is sin, and the problem is not with man/him, and he asserts that the solution is to assert that Christ came to destroy/abolish/blot out the law, not to die for man's breaking the good, holy, spiritual, law of God.
                Saint John W

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                • Originally posted by meshak View Post
                  Your "Christ and Jew hating" comment is vicious comment and hateful.

                  because none of them is true about my faith.
                  The old reliable "accusation of hate" technique. What a surprise. You're a harmless wolf, and a Jew hater, Christ hater. I don't take you seriously-neither does most of TOL.
                  Saint John W

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                  • Originally posted by john w View Post
                    The old reliable "accusation of hate" technique. What a surprise. You're a harmless wolf, and a Jew hater, Christ hater. I don't take you seriously-neither does most of TOL.

                    that's the truth. your group is down right hateful.

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                    • Originally posted by meshak View Post
                      that's the truth. your group is down right hateful.
                      Slower:The old reliable "accusation of hate" technique. What a surprise. You're a harmless wolf, and a Jew hater, Christ hater. I don't take you seriously-neither does most of TOL.


                      And I do not like wolves. Would you be nice to a wolf, serpent?


                      So, there is your answer. Now-go away...Shew,you pesky fly, gnat.
                      Saint John W

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                      • Originally posted by john w View Post
                        Slower:The old reliable "accusation of hate" technique. What a surprise. You're a harmless wolf, and a Jew hater, Christ hater. I don't take you seriously-neither does most of TOL.


                        And I do not like wolves. Would you be nice to a wolf, serpent?


                        So, there is your answer. Now-go away...Shew,you pesky fly, gnat.
                        So you think you sound like a lamb?
                        Oh how I love the Word of God!

                        Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                        • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                          So you think you sound like a lamb?
                          Another gnat, pest....summer is approaching.
                          Saint John W

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                          • Originally posted by john w View Post
                            Another gnat, pest....summer is approaching.
                            Now you have three posters to harass.

                            what do you do for living?

                            BTW, you are not humorous anymore.

                            You are just plain nasty, wolf.

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                            • Originally posted by john w View Post
                              Another gnat, pest....summer is approaching.
                              You sound like those who falsely accused Jesus.
                              Oh how I love the Word of God!

                              Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                              • Originally posted by meshak View Post
                                Now you have three posters to harass.

                                what do you do for living?

                                BTW, you are not humorous anymore.

                                You are just plain nasty, wolf.
                                Stock trader, and part time wolf hunter, Calvin Klein underwear model.


                                You're beginning to bore me, gnat....go away, fly, pest, to your job at The Salvation Army, where you got that stupid hat.
                                Saint John W

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