The heresy of Calvinism by Dave Hunt--
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Artur Axmann
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Calvin answers questions..
Calvinism says---
Daniel said to King Neb--
Dan 4:27 Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.
The unconverted can do good according to the Bible, also Cornelius did good before being converted.
Act 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
Act 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
Act 10:3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
Act 10:4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The children of the believers are considered Holy/ separated from the world to Him) by God.
as well as the unbelieving spouse. Obviously they do not hate God as Calvinism teaches.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
LA
Daniel said to King Neb--
Dan 4:27 Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.
The unconverted can do good according to the Bible, also Cornelius did good before being converted.
Act 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
Act 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
Act 10:3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
Act 10:4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The children of the believers are considered Holy/ separated from the world to Him) by God.
as well as the unbelieving spouse. Obviously they do not hate God as Calvinism teaches.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
LA
Artur Axmann
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The Calvin you should worry about is not John Calvin but Calvin KLEIN!
Hi and Arminianism is NOT Dispensationaism , so where is a verse to prove your Premise ??
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Epoisses
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Arminians can never come to terms with the fact that they are sinners who can do nothing good. Sinners don't make good choices they make bad choices like refusing to believe the gospel that says all have sinned and fallen short of the goodness of God. You're just going thru the motions of religion without genuine heart work.
musterion
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If the can genuinely choose to obey, or not, is the only way God can justifiably damn them for unbelief and not be a liar when He does it, you blasphemous heretic.
Actually consistent Dispensationalism is neither Calvinist, nor Arminian - 1 Cor. 1:21; Rom. 6:17.
Can a lost person choose to believe his place of employment will be there when he returns after the weekend?
Can a fool choose to believe some politician has his back?
Can a child choose to believe that if she will just ignore it long enough, her sense that there is a monster under the bed is just her own imagination...will soon dissipate?
THAT is ALL faith IS - CHOOSING to believe that a thing IS or is NOT so.
And often, against hope.
In other words, against seeming evidence or not, to the contrary.
Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. 4:19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb: 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 11:2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
In short, it's time you CHOSE TO get a clue...
Start with the fact of Romans 5:8 towards ya.
Epoisses
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Wrong A/B mentality. The first step in becoming a Christian is to understand that you are a sinner and all your choices are always wrong every time. A sinner chooses sin every time without fail and until you come to that epiphany you will continue to worship your will power which is self-worship.
Epoisses
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Where they're definitely not Calvinists. So many Christians do not have the discernment to understand that some things Calvinists teach are truth. When you throw out the baby with bathwater you're throwing out truth as well. Calvinists are very grounded in the belief that men are sinners and incapable of anything good which is the truth. That doesn't mean I advocate their flavor of predestination but you need to have discernment and not throw away everything just because it has Calvin's stamp on it.
Epoisses
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They believed not chose! Choice is an action of the will or intellect. Belief is something that comes from the heart. It's not an action or a decision, when we hear something we either believe it or we don't - there is no effort involved. This is why it is called the hearing of faith. The thousands who were converted at the preaching of Peter heard the gospel and believed the gospel. Thousands of others heard the gospel but never believed and were never converted.
musterion
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If God condemns those who wont obey when He alone gives the power to obey, He is a liar. Stop worshipping an idol.
Zeke
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Romans nine disputes choice being a mortal one as does John 1:13, observational traditionalist all eat from the same tree of time instead of grasping the now of eternity Luke 17:20-21 the search (alias cloud watchers) of the dead is nothing new under the sun.
Epoisses
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God converts people based on the purity of the gospel being preached. The purest gospel is the one that gives the glory to God not man. Arminians don't give the glory to God but their all powerful free-will. I've attended churches like this where the emphasis is always on 'making a decision for Christ' and it's all up to me and my decision power. Calvinist/Reformed churches with all their faults do give the glory to God for man's conversion and so there are many more genuine conversions in those churches.