the church

[KingdomRose]

the church
-a place to gather in His name
-a place to worship
-the church feeds us
-the church guides us
-you need the church

You need to find the right one.

 

[KingdomRose]

No. As I already explained in an earlier post, it's a rationalist explanation for something that had always been held as a mystery.

I thought God wants us all to "reason" together. Use our brains to understand something. I think he wants us to be rational and explain things about His personality and character and the truths about His Son.

(Isaiah 1:18, The Orthodox Study Bible)

 

[God's Truth]

I recognize them all. And you do not represent the true understanding of those verses. Jesus quoted from the O.T. throughout his sojourn here on Earth. The O.T. was applicable in his own day as far as he was concerned. Why should we relegate the O.T. to the dust bin? It is as alive today as it was in Jesus' own mouth.

You represent the lie that Satan told to Eve (Genesis 3:4), and therefore you are of your father---the one who told that lie and was called "the father of the lie" by Jesus. (John 8:44) Satan said "you will NOT die." That is what you teach by saying that we have a spirit person inside us that leaves our body when we die. A LIE.

You have a doctrine of death and have to deny and twist many of the scriptures to defend your false beliefs.

 

[chrysostom]

You need to find the right one.

no problem
-Jesus built it on a rock

 

[God's Truth]

You will not find God's Truth in a denomination. The Truth is not in the Catholic denomination, and not in the Jehovah Witness denomination.

Where is God's Truth? God's Truth is can be found in His written Word, the Holy Bible.

Do we find God's Truth by merely reading what is written?

No. We find God's Truth by finding Jesus' teaching and doing what the Way says.

What does the Way say?

The Way says humble yourself, or you will never enter.

Start there.

 

[chrysostom]

how are you going to find the truth
-if
-you can't find the church Jesus built on a rock?

 

[HisServant]

how are you going to find the truth
-if
-you can't find the church Jesus built on a rock?

And you expect me to believe that God went back on his promises and housed his church in Rome?

God MUST be consistent and fulfill his promises.... under no scenario can Rome be Christ's church except via self-delusion.

 

[chrysostom]

And you expect me to believe that God went back on his promises and housed his church in Rome?

I expect you to be able to find
-the church
-Jesus built on a rock

 

[chrysostom]

the church teaches
-redemption so you might be saved
-repentance
-grace
-perseverance
-forgiving
-love of neighbor

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I expect you to be able to find
-the church
-Jesus built on a rock

:chuckle:

 

[HisServant]

I expect you to be able to find
-the church
-Jesus built on a rock

The rock is our confession that Jesus is the Messiah... the same lesson that Jesus taught Peter.

Anyhow, the rock.. the chief cornerstone is Jesus, himself and no one else.

 

[God's Truth]

how are you going to find the truth
-if
-you can't find the church Jesus built on a rock?

The is how you find God's Truth, you get the Holy Bible, and you search for Jesus' teachings, then you obey Jesus' teachings. Jesus will reveal himself to you.

 

[Cruciform]

The rock is our confession that Jesus is the Messiah... the same lesson that Jesus taught Peter. Anyhow, the rock.. the chief cornerstone is Jesus, himself and no one else.

Addressed in detail HERE.

 

[Cruciform]

The is how you found God's Truth, you get the Holy Bible, and you search for Jesus' teachings, then you obey Jesus' teachings. Jesus will reveal himself to you.

According to the New Testament, God reveals his truth in and through the authoritative teachings of Christ's one historic Catholic Church (Mt. 28:18-20; Lk. 10:16; Ac. 16:4; 2 Thess. 3:4; 1 Tim. 3:15; 1 Jn. 4:6), not through the mere fallible opinions of the myriad non-Catholic sects of men.

 

[john w]

According to the New Testament, God reveals his truth in and through the authoritative teachings of Christ's one historic Catholic Church (Mt. 28:18-20; Lk. 10:16; Ac. 16:4; 2 Thess. 3:4; 1 Tim. 3:15; 1 Jn. 4:6), not through the mere fallible opinions of the myriad non-Catholic sects of men.

"sects of men."

Vs "sects of God?" Wicked Roman shill/stooge, engaging in sophistry, and grade school "arguments."

 

[Ktoyou]

the church teaches
-redemption so you might be saved
-repentance
-grace
-perseverance
-forgiving
-love of neighbor

Especially love your choir boys!

 

[Crucible]

the church teaches
-redemption so you might be saved
-repentance
-grace
-perseverance
-forgiving
-love of neighbor

Cool story.

Remind me again how any of that's relevant to it's otherwise myriad of historical heresy, greed, and tyranny :think:

 

[HisServant]

Addressed in detail HERE.

Nope... all I see in that link are musings of pedophiles and murderers.

In others words... writings of people that will not inherit the kingdom and are in desparate need of salvation.

 

[Cruciform]

Especially love your choir boys!

Ad Hominem Fallacy. Try again.

 

[Cruciform]

Nope... all I see in that link are musings of pedophiles and murderers.

Really? Because many of the sources cited in the article are actually from Protestant (non-Catholic) biblical scholars, theologians, and pastors, and not from Catholics.

In any case, your complete inability to actually refute a single point from the cited article is noted. :up:

In others words... writings of people that will not inherit the kingdom and are in desparate need of salvation.

Your desperate avoidance of relevant biblical material is also noted. Here you've merely taken your very favorite position: