Premise 1 acknowledged and conceded.
Contradiction. A thing cannot be both arbitrary and non-arbitrary.
This is called the law of excluded middle. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. A thing either is or it is not - can't be both.
Now, because I know you'll ignore that argument and simply repeat your bald assertion unless I point it out, that was a fully rational and completely devastating argument against your position. Refute it or accept that you cannot.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
Once again a now redundant acknowledgement of the first major premise.
(Which is sufficient in itself to falsify your doctrine. God cannot be both just and arbitrary.)
Saying it doesn't make it so!
Further, denying this contradicts the premise that you just acknowledged was "ABSOLUTELY" true!
If you think otherwise then please, by all means, tell us what the reason was for your god's admittedly "absolutely" arbitrary decision that Jesus must die.
Come on, now! Don't flake out. Tell us! What's the reason for God's arbitrary decision!
Blasphemy.
This implies not only that Jesus was a mere man but that God is unjust.
Stupid question.
If God counted the death of a maggot as payment, would that be grace too?
If so, then why did Jesus and the Father have to suffer through the events at Calvary? Calvary was just a complete waste of time if your logic was even close to being right. God could have just as easily (easier really) had the High Priest stomp on an ant and said that was sufficient and chalked the rest up to grace. In fact, why kill the ant? Why not just right the whole thing off as grace and be done with it?
Further, to say that Christ death wasn't of sufficient value to pay the entire sin debt is to say that God did as good as He could do but wasn't really able to find a way to really pay off the actual debt and so is willing to just let the rest of it slide - no biggy.
Not according to you! According to you, everything short of justice is grace. The less justice the more grace.
If God is unjust He IS NOT GOD!
You want to change the subject and debate my beliefs. I'm here to grind your blasphemous doctrine into powder. I couldn't care less what you think about my doctrine.
Christ's death was justification because His life wasn't just perfectly lived, but because it, being the very life of God Himself, was of infinite worth. Thus God is able to be gracious and merciful while remaining perfectly just.
Meaning you're too lazy to do a full response.
Resting in Him,
Clete
