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  • Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
    No. In your life you never present evidence like that to tell others what you did. Others will not demand your evidence to get to the truth. They rely on faith in you to accept what you said about what you did.
    And what if I'm lying? Employers do background checks and don't rely on faith alone for that very reason

    Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
    Only in specific scenarios that a difference than this will be made. Science happens to be one of these scenarios.
    We certainly agree on that

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    • Originally posted by Greg Jennings View Post
      ... the Earth is egg-shaped.





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      • Originally posted by Greg Jennings View Post
        And what if I'm lying? Employers do background checks and don't rely on faith alone for that very reason
        You thus always need FAITH!

        How will you be able to examine someone's background who is living 2000 years ago? What do you say about the grandpa of your own grandpa. You have all the evidence of their existence or they didn't exist at all?

        Your confusion is coming from you assume that all kinds of truths can be evidenced. The reality is, only scientific events and present events can be evidenced.

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        • Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
          You thus always need FAITH!

          How will you be able to examine someone's background who is living 2000 years ago? What do you say about the grandpa of your own grandpa. You have all the evidence of their existence or they didn't exist at all?
          I think we're agreeing that there is a gap between what constitutes science and what constitutes faith.

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          • Originally posted by Greg Jennings View Post
            I think we're agreeing that there is a gap between what constitutes science and what constitutes faith.
            Let me tell you this. Humans rely mostly on witnessing to get to a truth. This is the case even applying to science.

            You (or 99% of humans) don't examine the existence of black holes. They rely on putting faith in a small group of humans (the scientists) which they have faith this small group of humans are more knowledgeable about the truth. This process is the process of witnessing.

            Humans seldom rely on examining evidence to get to a truth. And not all truth can be evidenced.

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            • Stripe: you are correct that the Earth is only visibly egg-shaped during the periods which you mention.

              Spheroid is the proper term for the Earth's natural state of shape, which is slightly off from a pure sphere.

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              • Originally posted by Hawkins View Post
                Let me tell you this. Humans rely mostly on witnessing to get to a truth. This is the case even applying to science.

                You (or 99% of humans) don't examine the existence of black holes. They rely on putting faith in a small group of humans (the scientists) which they have faith this small group of humans are more knowledgeable about the truth. This process is the process of witnessing.

                Humans seldom rely on examining evidence to get to a truth. And not all truth can be evidenced.
                Your point is taken. I have faith that scientists aren't deliberately trying to deceive the whole world, but I don't think that's a radical opinion

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                • Originally posted by Greg Jennings View Post
                  I don't pretend to think.
                  OK.
                  On why the Earth is round: it's the same reason all celestial objects with a certain amount of mass are - gravity! When you get enough matter together then gravity compacts it together. Because of the force constantly pushing in you tend to get spherical or spheroid shapes for these celestial bodies
                  Right.

                  Now compare that with either the force that tends to make the Earth egg-shaped or pear-shaped (you never did pick which edible you think the world resembles ). Which of the three forces is greater? The answer to that will allow you to independently arrive at the same conclusion NASA did.
                  Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                  E≈mc2
                  "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                  "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                  -Bob B.

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                  • Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                    OK.
                    Right.

                    Now compare that with either the force that tends to make the Earth egg-shaped or pear-shaped (you never did pick which edible you think the world resembles ). Which of the three forces is greater? The answer to that will allow you to independently arrive at the same conclusion NASA did.
                    Doctoring quotes is juvenile, Stripe.

                    Egg-shaped and pear-shaped are describing the same phenomenon.

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                    • Originally posted by Greg Jennings View Post
                      Stripe: you are correct that the Earth is only visibly egg-shaped during the periods which you mention.
                      What? What "periods"?

                      The Earth is never "visibly egg-shaped."

                      Spheroid is the proper term for the Earth's natural state of shape, which is slightly off from a pure sphere.
                      Nothing is a perfect sphere. By your standards, we should be calling billiard balls "pear shaped."
                      Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                      E≈mc2
                      "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                      "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                      -Bob B.

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                      • Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                        What? What "periods"?

                        The Earth is never "visibly egg-shaped."
                        I think you understand what I'm saying. That it is measurably oblong.



                        Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                        Nothing is a perfect sphere. By your standards, we should be calling billiard balls "pear shaped."
                        Well those balls are actually more spherical than the Earth, but I understand your point

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                        • Originally posted by ok doser View Post

                          That would be one heavy "yolk" to bear.
                          Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                          E≈mc2
                          "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                          "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                          -Bob B.

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                          • Originally posted by Greg Jennings View Post
                            I think you understand what I'm saying. That it is measurably oblong.


                            I'm beginning to think you're on drugs.

                            "Oblong"?

                            Well those balls are actually more spherical than the Earth, but I understand your point
                            Are you sure about that?
                            Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                            E≈mc2
                            "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                            "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                            -Bob B.

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                            • Originally posted by Stripe View Post


                              I'm beginning to think you're on drugs.
                              No. Just PCP.

                              Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                              "Oblong"?
                              Ever so slightly, yes. Look up oblong if you don't know what it means



                              Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                              Your link here provides information from a scientist who agreed with me, and the author of your link disputed that. Who authored your article here?

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                              • Originally posted by Stripe View Post


                                I'm beginning to think you're on drugs.
                                i reached that conclusion last night

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