CALVINISM: A Denial of the Gospel and the Lordship of Jesus Christ

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Robert Pate

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The resounding New Testament message is that "JESUS IS LORD".

He is Lord because he has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and in doing so has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

Paul wrote, "And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it" Colossians 2:15.

Jesus is Lord because, "God has highly exalted him and has given him a name above every name. That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11.

Because of the work of Christ this is now the age of grace and faith. Now, all who do nothing more than call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved, Romans 10:13. All because Jesus has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and is Lord over all things, Colossians 1:20.

To deny that salvation has been made available to all is to deny the Gospel and the Lordship of Jesus Christ. "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death FOR EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.

"Jesus is Lord" and he is Lord over sin, death and the devil. To deny that Jesus is Lord is to confess that you do not have faith or confidence in him. To deny that Jesus is Lord is to exclude yourself from the kingdom of God.
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
The resounding New Testament message is that "JESUS IS LORD".

He is Lord because he has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and in doing so has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

Paul wrote, "And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it" Colossians 2:15.

Jesus is Lord because, "God has highly exalted him and has given him a name above every name. That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11.

Because of the work of Christ this is now the age of grace and faith. Now, all who do nothing more than call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved, Romans 10:13. All because Jesus has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and is Lord over all things, Colossians 1:20.

To deny that salvation has been made available to all is to deny the Gospel and the Lordship of Jesus Christ. "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death FOR EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.

"Jesus is Lord" and he is Lord over sin, death and the devil. To deny that Jesus is Lord is to confess that you do not have faith or confidence in him. To deny that Jesus is Lord is to exclude yourself from the kingdom of God.
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Pate, because you have misrepresented the Gospel, you must be corrected 2 Tim. 3:16!

Christ Jesus came to Save His People from their sins:

Mat. 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS:
for he shall save his people from their sins.


2 Thes. 2:13-14
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord,
because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation
through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
(v.14) Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.


He came to Save all those who were chosen in Him to receive Eternal Life! Eph. 1:11:


Eph. 1:3-5
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings
in heavenly places in Christ: (v.4) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation
of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself,
according to the good pleasure of his will


2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works,
but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began


That's the People who were Chosen in Christ:

Deut. 7:6-9
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee
to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
(v.7) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number
than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people


The People Christ came to Save are called Israel: both jew and gentile:


Is. 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation:
ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.


And they are just a remnant of all of humanity: The Election of Grace! Rom. 11:5.


So, all of humanity are not God's People. Only the Wheat / Sheep are John 10:27-29!


The tares / goats, those the devil sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39 are under the Wrath of God.
They are not Christ's People He came to Save!


Mat. 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand [the goats], Depart from me, ye cursed,
into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels

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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
Pate, because you have misrepresented the Gospel, you must be corrected 2 Tim. 3:16!

Christ Jesus came to Save His People from their sins:

Mat. 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS:
for he shall save his people from their sins.


2 Thes. 2:13-14
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord,
because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation
through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
(v.14) Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.


He came to Save all those who were chosen in Him to receive Eternal Life! Eph. 1:11:


Eph. 1:3-5
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings
in heavenly places in Christ: (v.4) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation
of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself,
according to the good pleasure of his will


2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works,
but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began


That's the People who were Chosen in Christ:

Deut. 7:6-9
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee
to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
(v.7) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number
than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people


The People Christ came to Save are called Israel: both jew and gentile:


Is. 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation:
ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.


And they are just a remnant of all of humanity: The Election of Grace! Rom. 11:5.


So, all of humanity are not God's People. Only the Wheat / Sheep are John 10:27-29!


The tares / goats, those the devil sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39 are under the Wrath of God.
They are not Christ's People He came to Save!


Mat. 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand [the goats], Depart from me, ye cursed,
into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels

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You are in denial of the Gospel and the Lordship of Jesus Christ.

God's people are every human being that has ever lived on the earth, "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.

God loves all of humanity, not some of humanity.

Jesus has provided salvation for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.

You refuse to give Jesus the credit that he deserves.

"Whosoever denies the Son does not have the Father" 1 John 2:23.

Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

You cannot deny Jesus Christ and his Gospel and have eternal life.
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
You are in denial of the Gospel and the Lordship of Jesus Christ.

God's people are every human being that has ever lived on the earth, "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.

God loves all of humanity, not some of humanity.

Jesus has provided salvation for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.

You refuse to give Jesus the credit that he deserves.

"Whosoever denies the Son does not have the Father" 1 John 2:23.

Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

You cannot deny Jesus Christ and his Gospel and have eternal life.
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Your refusal to acknowledge all of the scriptures as the Word of Truth 1 Cor. 2:13 proves the fact
that you remain in a state of unbelief; blinded in heart and mind 2 Cor. 4:3-4; Eph. 4:18.

You continue to teach a man-made false gospel whereby man gets the credit for his choosing to accept or reject Christ. :nono:


The True Gospel of God's Electing Grace Acts 20:24; 2 Tim. 1:9, also known as TULIP points to scriptures
which demonstrate God's Choosing of Salvation for His Adopted Sons from Eternity Eph. 1:3-11.


The Truths of TULIP:

Total Depravity and inability spiritually of the natural man

Unconditional Election of Grace of only a remnant out of mankind

Limited and particular atonement of only some out of mankind

Irresistible Grace or Effectual Call of only some out of mankind

Preservation or perseverance of the Saints to the end by God’s Power and Grace
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God's Grace was given to all His Elect in Christ Jesus, their Covenant Head and Mediator, before the the world began Titus 1:2; not just offered or made available to them to consider; but given! So then when His Sons are born in time, Father will draw them John 6:44, make them Spiritually Alive in New Birth 1 Pet 1:3, and they are led by the Spirit to Christ. Rom. 8:14-17.

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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
Your refusal to acknowledge all of the scriptures as the Word of Truth 1 Cor. 2:13 proves the fact
that you remain in a state of unbelief; blinded in heart and mind 2 Cor. 4:3-4; Eph. 4:18.

You continue to teach a man-made false gospel whereby man gets the credit for his choosing to accept or reject Christ. :nono:


The True Gospel of God's Electing Grace Acts 20:24; 2 Tim. 1:9, also known as TULIP points to scriptures
which demonstrate God's Choosing of Salvation for His Adopted Sons from Eternity Eph. 1:3-11.





God's Grace was given to all His Elect in Christ Jesus, their Covenant Head and Mediator, before the the world began Titus 1:2; not just offered or made available to them to consider; but given! So then when His Sons are born in time, Father will draw them John 6:44, make them Spiritually Alive in New Birth 1 Pet 1:3, and they are led by the Spirit to Christ. Rom. 8:14-17.

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You poor lost soul.

You think that God is a mean, unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous sinner like you.

God so loved the world that he chose all of humanity in his Son Jesus, Ephesians 1:4.

In Jesus Christ he has provided salvation for the whole world, Hebrews 2:9. He has tasted death for everyone.

Now... "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 1:13.

How much simplier can it be.
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
You poor lost soul.

You think that God is a mean, unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous sinner like you.

God so loved the world that he chose all of humanity in his Son Jesus, Ephesians 1:4.

In Jesus Christ he has provided salvation for the whole world, Hebrews 2:9. He has tasted death for everyone.

Now... "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 1:13.

How much simplier can it be.
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More lies against the Gospel.

It's quite apparent that your knowledge and understanding of the scriptures is very limited.
So you quote and misuse the same scriptures over and over; for over 45 years. :nono:


Originally Posted by Nanja
Your refusal to acknowledge all of the scriptures as the Word of Truth 1 Cor. 2:13 proves the fact
that you remain in a state of unbelief; blinded in heart and mind 2 Cor. 4:3-4; Eph. 4:18.

You continue to teach a man-made false gospel whereby man gets the credit for his choosing to accept or reject Christ.
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Grosnick Marowbe

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Nanja said:
More lies against the Gospel.

It's quite apparent that your knowledge and understanding of the scriptures is very limited.
So you quote and misuse the same scriptures over and over; for over 45 years. :nono:




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You're one of those Hyper-Calvinist Fanatics. It's best to ignore you and your ilk.
 
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Grosnick Marowbe

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Robert Pate said:
You poor lost soul.

You think that God is a mean, unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous sinner like you.

God so loved the world that he chose all of humanity in his Son Jesus, Ephesians 1:4.

In Jesus Christ he has provided salvation for the whole world, Hebrews 2:9. He has tasted death for everyone.

Now... "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 1:13.

How much simplier can it be.
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Good post.
 
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Nanja said:
Your refusal to acknowledge all of the scriptures as the Word of Truth 1 Cor. 2:13 proves the fact
that you remain in a state of unbelief; blinded in heart and mind 2 Cor. 4:3-4; Eph. 4:18.

You continue to teach a man-made false gospel whereby man gets the credit for his choosing to accept or reject Christ. :nono:


The True Gospel of God's Electing Grace Acts 20:24; 2 Tim. 1:9, also known as TULIP points to scriptures
which demonstrate God's Choosing of Salvation for His Adopted Sons from Eternity Eph. 1:3-11.





God's Grace was given to all His Elect in Christ Jesus, their Covenant Head and Mediator, before the the world began Titus 1:2; not just offered or made available to them to consider; but given! So then when His Sons are born in time, Father will draw them John 6:44, make them Spiritually Alive in New Birth 1 Pet 1:3, and they are led by the Spirit to Christ. Rom. 8:14-17.

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And your Gospel is not man-made? You follow a formula devised by the MAN, John Calvin. Is that not a man-made doctrine?
 
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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
More lies against the Gospel.

It's quite apparent that your knowledge and understanding of the scriptures is very limited.
So you quote and misuse the same scriptures over and over; for over 45 years. :nono:




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You quote scripture to make some believe that you are some sort of an authority.

But you never quote John 3:16 or any other scripture that brings honor and glory to Christ.
 
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Robert Pate said:
You quote scripture to make some believe that you are some sort of an authority.

But you never quote John 3:16 or any other scripture that brings honor and glory to Christ.
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Simple truth. Seems as though they tear down the simple truths of the glory of Christ
 
Nanja

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Bright Raven said:
Where did Jesus ever deny that He would refuse anyone who called upon his name.
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According to the scriptures, only once a person is Saved, Born of the Spirit / quickened,
can he please God by calling upon His Name, because before then he's still in the flesh, carnal.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be. (v.8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Ps. 80:18 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.

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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
According to the scriptures, only once a person is Saved, Born of the Spirit / quickened,
can he please God by calling upon His Name, because before then he's still in the flesh, carnal.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be. (v.8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Ps. 80:18 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.

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On the day of Pentecost they were saved because they heard and believed the Gospel, Acts 2:41.

God quickens no one that does not believe in his Son Jesus Christ.

The Holy Spirit is only given to those who have faith in Jesus Christ.

"This only would I learn of you, did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.
 
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