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    Recapitulation is a theory developed to improve our understanding of the Apocalypse. Victorinus of Pettau in the third century was the first to show the same events were being repeated in different visions. Therefore the sequence of chapters cannot be considered necessarily in chronological order. Most commentaries on the Apocalypse have adopted this theory. It has also been described as parallelism

    see what augustine had to say about this

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    Last edited by chrysostom; July 18th, 2014, 12:24 PM.
    a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

  • #2
    How many visions were there in total?


    Posted from the TOL App cause that's how I roll.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Thunder's Muse View Post
      How many visions were there in total?


      Posted from the TOL App cause that's how I roll.
      each chapter should be considered a separate vision
      a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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      • #4
        Originally posted by chrysostom View Post
        each chapter should be considered a separate vision

        Ok...wow


        Posted from the TOL App cause that's how I roll.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chrysostom View Post
          each chapter should be considered a separate vision
          THEORIGINALBIBLELOOKEDLIKETHIS
          SOWEHAVETOASSUME
          THEONESWHOADDEDCHAPTERANDVERSE
          KNEWWHATTHEYWEREDOING
          a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by chrysostom View Post
            THEORIGINALBIBLELOOKEDLIKETHIS
            SOWEHAVETOASSUME
            THEONESWHOADDEDCHAPTERANDVERSE
            KNEWWHATTHEYWEREDOING


            Were the visions all given to the same person?


            Posted from the TOL App cause that's how I roll.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Thunder's Muse View Post
              Were the visions all given to the same person?


              Posted from the TOL App cause that's how I roll.
              that is another thread which will be called

              the three johns

              the first john received most of them
              and
              did not know the name Jesus
              but
              he did know the Lamb of God
              a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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              • #8
                here augustine comments on recapitulation

                Chapter 36.— The Sixth Rule of Tichonius.
                52. The sixth rule Tichonius calls the recapitulation, which, with sufficient watchfulness, is discovered in difficult parts of Scripture. For certain occurrences are so related, that the narrative appears to be following the order of time, or the continuity of events, when it really goes back without mentioning it to previous occurrences, which had been passed over in their proper place. And we make mistakes if we do not understand this, from applying the rule here spoken of.
                a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                • #9
                  more from augustine on tichonius

                  Chapter 30.— The Rules of Tichonius the Donatist Examined.

                  42. One Tichonius, who, although a Donatist himself, has written most triumphantly against the Donatists (and herein showed himself of a most inconsistent disposition, that he was unwilling to give them up altogether), wrote a book which he called the Book of Rules, because in it he laid down seven rules, which are, as it were, keys to open the secrets of Scripture. And of these rules, the first relates to the Lord and His body, the second to the twofold division of the Lord's body, the third to the promises and the law, the fourth to species and genus, the fifth to times, the sixth to recapitulation, the seventh to the devil and his body. Now these rules, as expounded by their author, do indeed, when carefully considered, afford considerable assistance in penetrating the secrets of the sacred writings; but still they do not explain all the difficult passages, for there are several other methods required, which are so far from being embraced in this number of seven, that the author himself explains many obscure passages without using any of his rules; finding, indeed, that there was no need for them, as there was no difficulty in the passage of the kind to which his rules apply.
                  a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                  • #10
                    more from augustine

                    Chapter 2.— Rule for Removing Ambiguity by Attending to Punctuation.


                    " let the reader consult the rule of faith which he has gathered from the plainer passages of Scripture, and from the authority of the Church, and of which I treated at sufficient length when I was speaking in the first book about things."
                    a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                    • #11
                      each vision should be considered by itself
                      they are not necessarily in chronological order
                      now that we have history to guide us
                      we may be able to put them in order
                      a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                      • #12
                        repetition is often used to reinforce learning

                        recapitulate


                        a : to restate briefly : summarize
                        b : to give new form or expression to
                        2
                        : to repeat the principal stages or phases of
                        a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                        • #13
                          we need to repeat what we believe
                          what we feel is important
                          back to basics
                          it is easy to get distracted by what is happening around us
                          going to church on sunday can help us focus
                          a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                          • #14
                            without recapitulation
                            an error interpreting one chapter may cause an error in interpreting the next chapter
                            a good example of this
                            is
                            many think chapter 19 is the second coming
                            and
                            wrongly conclude that the thousand years won't start until His return
                            so
                            they don't even look for it
                            a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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                            • #15
                              recapitulation

                              it's worth repeating
                              but
                              it's okay
                              if
                              you don't get it
                              a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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