Atheism And Ceasing To Exist Oblivion.

JAGG

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JAGG Writes:
When you die, is that the end of you?
Or do you continue to live on and on somewhere after you die?

Atheists answer those questions as follows:

Some atheists say they do not know if humans cease to
exist after death, that there may be an afterlife.

Many other atheists say that humans DO cease to exist after
death. The following remarks are addressed only to those atheists
who we can correctly label "Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Atheists."

Cockroaches . . .

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism there is no ultimate difference
in the end of a human being and a cockroach, in that both have the
same ultimate destiny, namely oblivion as in ceasing to exist. This is
a very sad position to hold and believe.

House plants . . .

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism there is no ultimate difference
in the end of a human being and a house plant, in that both have the
same ultimate destiny, namely oblivion as in ceasing to exist. The same
very sad thought.

Question for Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Atheists: How does it make
you feel to believe that you have no more ultimate worth and value
than a house plant and a cockroach?

Or dead critters smashed in road kills . . . .
{they cease to exist too }

Again, that which ceases to exist has no ultimate worth and value.
Nothing cannot be valuable. Cockroaches and house plants die and
cease to exist. They cease to be valuable. They become trash to be
collected and discarded.

On Cease-To-Exist Atheism you eventually cease to exist and that
which has ceased to exist has become a zero. Atheists do have
worth and value in the present to their own selves and in their
own mind and in their own feelings. And they do have present
worth and value to their family and to their friends. However on
Cease-To-Exist Atheism atheists have no ultimate worth and
value because they ultimately become nothing. Zero. 0.0000

Ultimate definition: "being or happening at the end of a process."
On Cease-To-Exist Atheism atheists will cease to exist at the end
of the process of their lives.

That which no longer exists is not worth anything.
Its utterly impossible for nothing to be valuable.
And on Cease-To-Exist Atheism, they end up
ultimately in oblivion, as in nothing. Zero.

This is very sad. Atheism is pure sadness.

No future.

No hope.

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Contrast Christendom's great doctrines of Eternal Life.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:16

"My sheep listen to my voice, I know them, and they follow me, I give them
eternal life and they shall never perish." John 10:27-28


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KerimF

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Well, anything not done, by a theist or atheist, with true unconditional Love towards others will end up to the state of void, the state before Creation, as it did never exist/happen.

And, as we throw into fire anything which is not useful anymore to return it back to its raw state (not to torture it for sure :) ), Jesus refers to this end by using the expression 'everlasting fire'.

At the end, there will be no losers (from dust to dust), just winners who were able feeding their soul with true love towards all others, even enemies, and joined, therefore, Love's Realm (not limited by time or space, the Realm of the Father in Heaven and Jesus, unified, since before Creation, by the divine spirit of Love, the Holy Spirit/Ghost).
 

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Those who ultimately choose to love God will spend the rest of eternity with Him, either in the new heaven or the new earth.

Those who ultimately choose to hate God (For God said you are either for or against him), and die physically without choosing to love Him will, after being judged at the Great White Throne Judgment, spend the rest of eternity apart from Him, because God is not a sadist nor is He cruel, to make someone spend the rest of eternity with Him who does not want to be with Him.

We call this separation (not annihilation) "Hell," or more accurately, "the Lake of Fire."

Annihilation is not Biblical, nor is it just. - Those who hate God will not cease to exist, but they will continue to exist separated from Him, and since the consequences of sin are eternal, there must be an eternal punishment for harming others, meaning annihilation, which compared to eternity, would be a finite punishment.

Universalism is not Biblical, nor is it just. - Those who die hating God will never turn to Him, no matter how long He gives them, no matter how many chances He gives, and in fact, any more than the chances they have during this life on this plane of existence would only serve to harden their hearts more, and would potentially cause others to fall away and/or harden their hearts prior to/after their deaths, and they would be less likely to repent.

Therefore, the only possible alternative, because God cannot destroy that which He Himself designed to last forever, is for God to separate those from Himself, out of a greater love for those who love Him, even though He loves those who hate Him, for all of eternity, so that heaven does not turn into hell, to protect His own, and to punish those who died in their sins without accepting His free gift of salvation, who never placed their trust in Christ's faith.

People go to Hell because they want to, not because God is cruel or mean or sadistic or evil.

They would rather endure eternal torment than to spend eternity with their Creator, and God will let them, because He is just and loving, and does not force Himself upon those who do not want Him.
 
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