I was responding to what you wrote.
Jesus saves unbelievers !
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I was responding to what you wrote.
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What Lie did i say about you?
Oh, by the way you are CHANGING the TOPIC to be about you.
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I'm not playing your games.
You called me a Liar.
You can not prove I called you a Liar.
These are Games to you?
They Prove YOU without Substance.
You can not prove I called you a Liar.
These are Games to you?
They Prove YOU without Substance.
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You are the one who picked a fight about me personally.
NO,
I did not pick a fight with you PERSONALLY.
I objectected to your Religious Beliefs.
Which I disproved by the SCRIPTURE.
It was not you YOU PERSONALLY as you have said, I was what you said.
Have you been to you doctor recently?
Tell them that you think people on the Internet are talking to YOU PERSONALLY.
They will give give good Drugs.
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Stop attacking personally.
Is that because you can not address that Jesus Saves Unbelievers the Topic of the Thread before you Derailed it"?
SO Back on topic.
It seems kind of anti Calvinistic.
Everything is anti something.
Maybe Calvinism is anti Christian.
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I didn't derail the thread---you just can't stop attacking.
Calvinism is false.
Jesus does not save unbelievers.
Jesus saves believers.
Who in the world are believers before they are saved? :bang::bang::bang:
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You say that God showed mercy to Paul "because of" Paul's unbelief, which is to say that Paul's unbelief was the cause of God's showing mercy to Paul, is it not? How will you now try to spin what you said in such a way as to avoid making out the creature to be the cause of God's activity? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around according to Calvinism, so as that God is the cause of the creature's activity, rather than that the creature is the cause of God's activity?
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Jesus says to believe THEN he will save you. It isn't so hard.
God doesn't save unbelievers, no matter how much head banging you do.
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."
Mark 1:15 "The time has come," he said. "The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!"
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Nanja
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Rom. 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
beloved57
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Yes and thats Saving Mercy Titus 3:7
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
1 Pet 1:3
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Nanja
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beloved57
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Exactly, and Gods mercy is uncaused by the creature, or anything outside of Himself Rom 9:15-16
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Nanja
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Amen, and it's God's Mercy exclusively which results in Him quickening them in time, even while they are being unbelievers and dead in sin:
Eph. 2:4-5
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, by grace ye are saved;
Also important to note, is that God's rich Mercy was never intended for all people without exception, but only for His Chosen remnant Eph. 1:4-7.
Micah 7:18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.