The Late Great Urantia Revelation

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freelight

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evaluations..............

evaluations..............

There's always two sides to every 2 sides of a story, I consider that the book as sincerely engelangs, but do you think celestial beings all tell the truth? Avoiding convictions, prolong time, sayeth then, I don't remeber a thing or how.

'Evaluations' are determinations of value. Regarding writings of a religious, philosophic or scientific nature, all things bear investigating. Everything in the UB is open for inspection, just like any other 'book' or 'bible' of like subject matter. Consider 'content' and 'context'.

From the Foreward, by a Divine Counselor -

"We are fully cognizant of the difficulties of our assignment; we recognize the impossibility of fully translating the language of the concepts of divinity and eternity into the symbols of the language of the finite concepts of the mortal mind. But we know that there dwells within the human mind a fragment of God, and that there sojourns with the human soul the Spirit of Truth ; and we further know that these spirit forces conspire to enable material man to grasp the reality of spiritual values and to comprehend the philosophy of universe meanings. But even more certainly we know that these spirits of the Divine Presence are able to assist man in the spiritual appropriation of all truth contributory to the enhancement of the ever-progressing reality of personal religious experience—God-consciousness."

- UB


pj
 

Charity

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We are aware that in the beging; Angels raced off from heaven' down to the earth while it is was not; within their calling for service. perhaps they Take themselves a body? but realy, should have waited for their turn in a vessle? the mind needs the soul to fully comprehend an project a message?

where is the end? where we disclose the begining of?
 

Charity

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'Evaluations' are determinations of value. Regarding writings of a religious, philosophic or scientific nature, all things bear investigating. Everything in the UB is open for inspection, just like any other 'book' or 'bible' of like subject matter. Consider 'content' and 'context'.

From the Foreward, by a Divine Counselor -

"We are fully cognizant of the difficulties of our assignment; we recognize the impossibility of fully translating the language of the concepts of divinity and eternity into the symbols of the language of the finite concepts of the mortal mind. But we know that there dwells within the human mind a fragment of God, and that there sojourns with the human soul the Spirit of Truth ; and we further know that these spirit forces conspire to enable material man to grasp the reality of spiritual values and to comprehend the philosophy of universe meanings. But even more certainly we know that these spirits of the Divine Presence are able to assist man in the spiritual appropriation of all truth contributory to the enhancement of the ever-progressing reality of personal religious experience—God-consciousness."

- UB




pj

Nobble mission, an very much to be observed. in the relms of needing attention.

thank you
 

Nick_A

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Genesis is a wonderful book, and even if the creation account is a mythological narrative, hidden truths and insights can be found in such analogies. The celestials who gave us the Urantia Papers draw from their knowledge-record of things, but what is most important with the scriptures of our major religious traditions is the spiritual truth they contain within their given dispensations.

If anyone is serious about reading the Papers, begin with the foreward and Paper 1 (Part 1) on the nature of God (most essential) and the central and superuniverses...this will prepare the student with a precursory knowledge/background to proceed with the rest.


Personality

Two noteworthy subjects the Papers expound upon is the 'personality' of 'God', and/or 'personality' itself, in its constitution and complexity. I consider the personal aspects of 'God'(among his more transpersonal aspects) Here.... with Ben Masada's 'jewish' viewpoint. The Papers brings special significance to 'personality' and its eternal survival.

The Universal Father (see especially last 3 sections on 'personality')


Thought Adjuster

Another important teaching is about the 'Thought Adjuster' (or 'mystery monitor', 'Father-fragment)..which is actually a fragment of 'God' within the mind/soul of man, a pre-personal spirit-essence which is a gift of the Father to the evolving mortals of time. As the soul progresses in its development in doing the will of God... the soul and the 'thought adjuster' fuse (become one) ensuring the soul's eternal survival into the ages to come. We have a fragment of infinity/eternity within us! - much is expounded on this inner 'spirit-pilot' if you will, but much is also mysterious.

Origin and nature of Thought Adjusters

~*~*~

The future is always bright, for the plan and purpose of the Universal Father carries its momentum undergirding all creation and its directives...even with the temporay delays of free will choice,...the ultimacy of 'God' prevails.


In Spiritus,



pj

Thought Adjuster

Another important teaching is about the 'Thought Adjuster' (or 'mystery monitor', 'Father-fragment)..which is actually a fragment of 'God' within the mind/soul of man, a pre-personal spirit-essence which is a gift of the Father to the evolving mortals of time. As the soul progresses in its development in doing the will of God... the soul and the 'thought adjuster' fuse (become one) ensuring the soul's eternal survival into the ages to come. We have a fragment of infinity/eternity within us! - much is expounded on this inner 'spirit-pilot' if you will, but much is also mysterious.


Krishnamurti said in a talk:

You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?" "He picked up a piece of Truth," said the devil. "That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend. "Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to let him organize it."

Ronald Reagan said:

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Ronald Reagan

Be veeerrry wary of thought adjustors. IMO people inwardly drawn to human "being" potential are better off with Simone's approach.

"We can only know one thing about God - that he is what we are not. Our wretchedness alone is an image of this. The more we contemplate it, the more we contemplate him." Simone Weil
 

Aimiel

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Those of us who can discern good from evil recognize the UB as completely evil.

Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
 

Charity

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Those of us who can discern good from evil recognize the UB as completely evil.

Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.


Its life, all good, the perfect are destroyed by delay along with the wicked.
 

Charity

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an is that as good as you can do? we did hear you the first time you said it.

O Mighty dump truck!!
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
notes............

notes............

Krishnamurti said in a talk:

You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?" "He picked up a piece of Truth," said the devil. "That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend. "Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to let him organize it."

J Krishnamurti was quite an inspiration in my earlier years. The story illustrates the dangers in organization of religion that is detrimental to true spiritual health and freedom. Not sure how this relates to the Urantia Papers, as there is no organized religion or authority structure(Church) that uses the UB as a 'bible', besides individuals and small communities (seasonal confrences/meetings) who are UB readers and enthusiasts.


Be veeerrry wary of thought adjustors. IMO people inwardly drawn to human "being" potential are better off with Simone's approach.

"We can only know one thing about God - that he is what we are not. Our wretchedness alone is an image of this. The more we contemplate it, the more we contemplate him." Simone Weil

Being aware of the role and presence of the Thought Adjuster (the presence of eternal/infinite God) in the human mind is nothing to fear, but advantageous to know of, on many levels.

Recognizing the 'evil' or what is 'wrong' in oneself is a part of the process of the soul's journey towards enlightenment, salvation, liberation, call it what you like. Light(knowledge) does expose the darkness(ignorance/egoity) in us, as we discern what is 'real' from what is 'unreal', abiding in the substance of the former.



pj
 

OMEGA

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Its like Lighthead said , we must overcome the evil within our minds that came from
the spirit of Satan in the Garden of Eden.
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"We are starlight we are golden and
We've got to get back to the Garden."



NIBIRU AND PLANET X ARE NEXT IN

THIS EPISODE OF BUCK ROGERS

IN THE 21st CENTURY.
 
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Caino

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Its like Lighthead said , we must overcome the evil within our minds that came from
the spirit of Satan in the Garden of Eden.
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"We are starlight we are golden and
We've got to get back to the Garden."



NIBIRU AND PLANET X ARE NEXT IN

THIS EPISODE OF BUCK ROGERS

IN THE 21st CENTURY.

The beast was already evil, had already sined, then went after Eve. Evil and sin comes from the human heart, we cant blame the devil or anyone else for our own choices.


Caino
 

Nick_A

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J Krishnamurti was quite an inspiration in my earlier years. The story illustrates the dangers in organization of religion that is detrimental to true spiritual health and freedom. Not sure how this relates to the Urantia Papers, as there is no organized religion or authority structure(Church) that uses the UB as a 'bible', besides individuals and small communities (seasonal confrences/meetings) who are UB readers and enthusiasts.




Being aware of the role and presence of the Thought Adjuster (the presence of eternal/infinite God) in the human mind is nothing to fear, but advantageous to know of, on many levels.

Recognizing the 'evil' or what is 'wrong' in oneself is a part of the process of the soul's journey towards enlightenment, salvation, liberation, call it what you like. Light(knowledge) does expose the darkness(ignorance/egoity) in us, as we discern what is 'real' from what is 'unreal', abiding in the substance of the former.



pj

Freelight, we don't need thought adjustors. We need the courage to witness ourselves with impartial conscious attention. Then the truth of the human condition becomes obvious opening the means for freedom from it, to leave our attachments to plato's cave and opening to Man's objective conscious potential.

(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Krishnamurti is also referring to our own inner world. We pick up a piece of the truth and distort it through our own egotism. That is why for me the only legit paths are the ones that begin with Man's nothingness. It doesn't sell but is of great value for those that have the need and courage to look inside for the sake of the truth.
 

Charity

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The east to west path is very worn,
north to south... a woman, Mother of all Nations, made a beast the fathers of all lier's, who could not have been; without her authority an help divine.

thoughts
was the beast mean't to become a father?
of corse the beast is not going to be tempting the man Adam in this case; he can't sin in the least.
he can't have the children.' underline motive' there is no Justice in the judgement woman are easly tempted. there wasn't a competition. only incentive.
Owned woman chose t give their seed away, or forced, an therefor hardy owned!! taken as such. accused an controled as the orginal sinners.



indulge an carry on with their family argumenst. I think the movies are a great revlation.
 
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Charity

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Then AS IT SEEMS

you can slowly bake different cookies in one oven, while many ovens quickly cook multitudes of one type of cookie.
 

Caino

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THE RELIGION OF JESUS

"Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testamentis devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul's religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian......"

*Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion

*Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master.

*the religion of the risen and glorified Christ


[The religion of Jesus taught for the three years prior to his death could not have been centered around his death as a sacrifice, even the apostles did not know where he was going when he allowed himself to be rejected and killed by religion for the purpose of experiencing the final act of all that we are asked to experience, death. The gospel of the kingdom could not have been the gospel about the risen Christ]

NIV
John 13:36
Simon Peter asked him, "Lord, where are you going?" Jesus replied, "Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later."

Jesus' death could not have been the central core of his teaching all across the land for Peter does not even know Jesus is leaving.

Caino



http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1448#U196_2_1
 

Aimiel

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Obviously, His death could not be revealed to anyone, including His disciples.

Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Jesus' Blood is the only way that our sins can be cleansed.

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
 
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