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  • #2
    Barbarian thinks a "comedy" show is where to get reliable news.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
    E≈mc2
    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
    -Bob B.

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    • #3
      Und der Trollgeist erscheint.

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      • #4
        你是用GOOGLETRANSLATE幫你寫德文嗎?

        看起來有。
        Where is the evidence for a global flood?
        E≈mc2
        "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

        "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
        -Bob B.

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        • #5
          First of all the Stephen Colbert is literally stupid. You undermine your own credibility by posting such videos.

          But to answer the question of the thread title...

          It depends on whether the father was involved in the son's activity. Hunter Biden's position in, and unearned salary from, a Ukrainian natural gas company that even he admits he had no qualifications for, was obviously a political pay off. Joe Biden is one of the sleaziest politicians in existence. He's a text book example of just the sort of slime ball that created the movement that spawned the Tea Party and eventually put Donald Trump in office. There is nothing so advantageous for the forces of good than for there to be a clear and obvious bad buy to fight against.

          Clete
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Clete View Post
            It depends on whether the father was involved in the son's activity.
            True. This is the key, I think.

            Eric Trump vowed that since there were no expenses, all of the money would go to the kids. But his dad overruled him, saying "everyone pays." And according to people looking at the charges, they are way over anything reasonable for such an event. So Donald Trump really got the profit from the supposed "charity event." It isn't clear if Eric got a cut for himself.

            Hunter Biden's position in, and unearned salary from, a Ukrainian natural gas company that even he admits he had no qualifications for, was obviously a political pay off.
            More like Ivanka's deals with China. Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE

            https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/b...rademarks.html

            In the Trump case, there was a clear quid pro quo. That's not uncommon, although it is sleazy, if not overtly illegal. Joe Biden didn't seem to offer anything to Ukraine, on the other hand. But It wasn't a good thing, albeit not as corrupt as the Trump China deal.

            There is nothing so advantageous for the forces of good than for there to be a clear and obvious bad buy to fight against.
            That's what Biden is counting on.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Clete View Post
              Joe Biden is one of the sleaziest politicians in existence. He's a text book example of just the sort of slime ball that created the movement that spawned the Tea Party and eventually put Donald Trump in office.
              Joe Biden didn't put Trump in office, Hillary Clinton did. Biden had nothing to do with it. No one went into the polling booth and pulled the lever for Trump because of Biden. Literally no one.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by User Name View Post

                Joe Biden didn't put Trump in office, Hillary Clinton did. Biden had nothing to do with it. No one went into the polling booth and pulled the lever for Trump because of Biden. Literally no one.
                I didn't say otherwise. Try reading my post before responding.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post

                  True. This is the key, I think.

                  Eric Trump vowed that since there were no expenses, all of the money would go to the kids. But his dad overruled him, saying "everyone pays." And according to people looking at the charges, they are way over anything reasonable for such an event. So Donald Trump really got the profit from the supposed "charity event." It isn't clear if Eric got a cut for himself.



                  More like Ivanka's deals with China. Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/b...rademarks.html

                  In the Trump case, there was a clear quid pro quo. That's not uncommon, although it is sleazy, if not overtly illegal. Joe Biden didn't seem to offer anything to Ukraine, on the other hand. But It wasn't a good thing, albeit not as corrupt as the Trump China deal.



                  That's what Biden is counting on.
                  So, is it you that believes in conspiracy theories? Was the goal of the other thread you started really about you trying to figure out your own mind?

                  Trump was already crazy rich before he became president and could have been making a whole lot more money but stopped his company from doing any new international business deals while he is in office. It's just the exact polar opposite of what people like Biden do. They go into office having never done anything worthwhile, with no business experience whatsoever and come out of office wealthy because they're corrupt, cheating liars who game the system for their own benefit.

                  You go on and support Biden if you want. You'll get what you deserve.

                  Clete
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Clete View Post
                    You go on and support Biden if you want. You'll get what you deserve.
                    And who are you supporting?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Clete View Post

                      So, is it you that believes in conspiracy theories?
                      Eric Trump's little fraud on ill children is too simple and disorganized to qualify as a "conspiracy." And it's not debatable as to whether or not it happened. The documents are discoverable for anyone who want to look.

                      Trump was already crazy rich before he became president
                      Not as rich as he pretended to be, and certainly not as rich as he wanted to be. Regardless, that money he took from the St. Jude's fund wasn't all that much, but he wanted it. So he took it. What about Eric's story that they were donating the use of the course and that all money collected would go to St. Jude's Hospital? Trump describes that kind of thing as "puffery" i.e. the lies businessmen tell people to make money. And so they are.

                      and could have been making a whole lot more money but stopped his company from doing any new international business deals while he is in office.
                      Well, it turns out...

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busine...rump_in_Russia

                      And of course, there's his daughter's profitable government concessions in China, right after Trump decided to bail out ZTE.

                      And there's this...

                      CBS News reported that the suit was filed by Donald Trump confidentially with the International Chamber of Commerce, based in Paris. The argument behind the claim is that the owners of the condominiumTrump Ocean Tower prepared a "... conspiracy to remove the condominium management company, also owned by Trump. According to AP reports, the board of the condominium had accused the managers of the management company of inflating budgets repeatedly, paying bonuses without authorization and accounting for hotel expenses controlled by Trump along with finances for the condominium."

                      Cbsnews.com reports that "...In a key vote in May, investors and residents of the
                      building surprisingly rejected a proposal supported by Trump to recover more than $2 million in debt from administration of the building ... after the vote, the main Panamanian Trump employee resigned, paving a way out for the management company owned by Trump.
                      https://en.centralamericadata.com/en...ump_Ocean_Club

                      It's all talk, but he's not even trying very hard to hide that he's been lying to you.

                      It's just the exact polar opposite of what people like Biden do. They go into office having never done anything worthwhile,
                      I don't consider serial adultery and sexual assault to be "anything worthwhile." Nor is defrauding thousands of people who looked up to him and being forced by the courts to pay them back for his fraud. Nor is getting billions from Daddy, losing most of it, and pretending to be a great businessman.

                      You go on and support Biden if you want.
                      Don't know who I'll support when the time comes. I could vote democrat for the first time in decades. I usually go libertarian,but these are dangerous times, and we have an amoral fool at the helm.

                      He's got his children, out there doing diplomatic assignments, with exactly zero understanding of what they are supposed to be doing. He's got the whole world laughing at us. And we're losing power and influence everywhere.





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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by User Name View Post

                        And who are you supporting?
                        that would make a good thread - who would you support if they had a chance?

                        surely there must be someone on the left who is palatable

                        just as surely, there must be someone on the right who would be better than trump

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                          just as surely, there must be someone on the right who would be better than trump
                          The latest Trumptard news is hilarious. Nikki Haley claims that Rex Tillerson and John Kelly tried to recruit her to work with them to undermine Trump's insanity. The people who know Trump best, know he's the worst.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            The latest Trumptard news is hilarious. Nikki Haley claims that Rex Tillerson and John Kelly tried to recruit her to work with them to undermine Trump's insanity. The people who know Trump best, know he's the worst.
                            Nikki wants to replace Pence as VP ...


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                            Easy to break, Easy to lose
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                              just as surely, there must be someone on the right who would be better than trump
                              I could get behind Condi Rice, just for the prospect of the effect it would have on the left

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