Bad Thinkers Why do some people believe conspiracy theories?

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
Claiming that "conspiracy theories" are the sole property of loonies is itself a conspiracy theory for it denies that conspiracies exist and yet history and the daily news tells us conspiracies are quite common. It's those swallowing the line of thought that "conspiracy theories" are the sole property of loonies who are the "bad thinkers" for their assertions are, and have been throughout human history, disproved again, and again, and again. And yet they ignore all those well-established facts to trumpet their claims in the face of all the evidence against the claims.

Those who are actually the bad thinkers are those who will believe what the mainstream press tells them to believe because they are unable to think for themselves!

They can't figure out that the Biden scandal involving Joe and Hunter stinks to high heaven because the mainstream press told them there is nothing there.
 

The Barbarian

BANNED
Banned
Turns out, there was something there...
“Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December,” attorney Joseph Bondy told CNN.
Shokin was forced out of office by Ukraine’s Parliament in 2016 under pressure from the U.S. and other Western nations over concerns he was soft on corruption. As vice president at the time, Biden was active in pushing for Shokin’s ouster.
Bondy also told CNN that Parnas worked to connect Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, with other Ukrainians who allegedly could come up with negative information on former Vice President Biden and the Democrats. If true, Nunes would be the first member of Congress linked to gathering opposition research on President Donald Trump’s political rival from a former foreign official, CNN noted — and one with a score to settle with Biden, who had pushed for Shokin’s ouster.
Nunes declined repeated requests from CNN to comment.
The attorney told CNN that Parnas is willing to comply with a congressional subpoena for documents and testimony as part of its impeachment inquiry. Information could prove explosive for Nunes.
Parnas worked with Shokin and Giuliani to peddle the baseless claims that Ukraine — not Russia — interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of the Democrats and that Biden’s actions in Ukraine were corrupt because his son was on the board of a Ukrainian company.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rudy...in-nunes-joe-biden_n_5dd8a90ee4b0913e6f6cba16
 

User Name

Greatest poster ever
Banned
They can't figure out that the Biden scandal involving Joe and Hunter stinks to high heaven because the mainstream press told them there is nothing there.

Overseas companies and governments have quietly been buying influence with American politicians by "buying off" the relatives of these politicians. Close family members of politicians in both Republican and Democratic parties have been benefiting from ethically compromising business dealings for decades:

 

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
The Clinton Foundation is folding up because Hillary lost the election:

While everyone's been gearing up for President Trump's inauguration, the Clinton Foundation made a major announcement this week that went by with almost no notice: For all intents and purposes, it's closing its doors.

In a tax filing, the Clinton Global Initiative said it's firing 22 staffers and closing its offices, a result of the gusher of foreign money that kept the foundation afloat suddenly drying up after Hillary Clinton failed to win the presidency.


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-hillary-isnt/
 

Gary K

New member
Banned
Overseas companies and governments have quietly been buying influence with American politicians by "buying off" the relatives of these politicians. Close family members of politicians in both Republican and Democratic parties have been benefiting from ethically compromising business dealings for decades:


Yup. Both sides of the swamp have sold out to different entities. McConnell is owned by the Chinese through his in-laws who have made him a very wealthy man through their Chinese government contacts and state owned shipping companies. The Chinese have done the same with the Biden family. They have funneled more than a billion dollars of business Hunter's way after Joe went over there and made the deal. Multiple members of Congress are owned by corporate overlords and profit from the legislation they pass. The swamp knows what regulations they are going to pass and what companies will profit from those regulations so they openly invest using their inside information. If any of we little people used inside information for investing that it would be jail time, but not for them. They aren't accountable for their crimes.

Our politicians haven't represented we the people for a long, long time. They have represented those forces which have made them wealthy.
 

Gary K

New member
Banned
Those who are actually the bad thinkers are those who will believe what the mainstream press tells them to believe because they are unable to think for themselves!

They can't figure out that the Biden scandal involving Joe and Hunter stinks to high heaven because the mainstream press told them there is nothing there.

You have that exactly right. The level of mind control held by the corporate media over the leftists is pretty frightening as they lap up anything that the media tells them without giving it a thought.
 

The Barbarian

BANNED
Banned
The Clinton Foundation is folding up because Hillary lost the election:

Wrong foundation, Jerry...

The Donald J. Trump Foundation agreed to dissolve under judicial supervision following allegations from the New York attorney general’s office that Trump used the charity for political and personal gain.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...tion-exec-mocks-trump-foundation-closing-amid

The Clinton Foundation has seen a large drop in donations, but continues to support a number of charities. After the Boston Globe suggested that any foundation connected a political figure gave the impression of ethics issues such as those that led to the closing of the Trump foundation, donations have dropped.
 

The Barbarian

BANNED
Banned
The primary difference is that the Trump's actually skimmed off money from their "charitable" foundation.
[h=1]How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business[/h] The real star of the day is Eric Trump, the president's second son and now the co-head of the Trump Organization, who has hosted this event for ten years on behalf of the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis. He's done a ton of good: To date, he's directed more than $11 million there, the vast majority of it via this annual golf event. He has also helped raise another $5 million through events with other organizations.

The best part about all this, according to Eric Trump, is the charity's efficiency: Because he can get his family's golf course for free and have most of the other costs donated, virtually all the money contributed will go toward helping kids with cancer. "We get to use our assets 100% free of charge," Trump tells Forbes.

That's not the case. In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it's clear that the course wasn't free--that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...charity-money-into-his-business/#538710256b4a
 

Gary K

New member
Banned
Jerry has the correct charity foundation. Here is a link to Charles Ortel's extended investigations into the Clinton Foundation in video format. The wealth of information here is incredible.

If anyone doesn't know who Charles Ortel is he is one of the top financial analysts in the world and an top expert in doing financial due diligence in the corporate world. He knows what he's doing and he's honest. He predicted the collapse of GE's stock back in 2008 from his investigations into GE's financial records.

The amount of information he has accumulated on the Clinton Foundation would have sent anyone but the Clinton's to jail long, long ago. All told there are several hundreds of hours of video at the following link as just the first page alone has 100 videos listed and many of these videos are 2-3 hours long. Ortel did a very deep dive on the Clinton Foundation and what he exposed is nothing but pure corruption.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBlSynguD0vanqruwm6O9DRmOnODZvFGj
 

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
Jerry has the correct charity foundation.

Notice that Barbarian did not even attempt to defend the Clinton Foundation. Of course he doesn't want to discuss the huge DONATION (pay-off) from the Russians when they gained control of a huge amount of America's Uranium supply.
 

Gary K

New member
Banned
Notice that Barbarian did not even attempt to defend the Clinton Foundation. Of course he doesn't want to discuss the huge DONATION (pay-off) from the Russians when they gained control of a huge amount of America's Uranium supply.

That is quintessential barbie. He's been doing that for years.
 

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
Ortel did a very deep dive on the Clinton Foundation and what he exposed is nothing but pure corruption.

The emails which provided the evidence that Hillary was involved in a Pay-for-Play scheme were deleted by Hillary when they were subpoenaed. Then the corrupt Obama Justice Department did absolutely nothing about her efforts to obstruct justice. Her husband Bill and then Attorney General Loretta Lynch met on the tarmac at the Phoenix airport and made a deal--let Hillary off and you will be appointed as a Supreme Court Justice!

But the American public is not as dumb as the Democrats think that they are and that is why Trump was elected!
 

Gary K

New member
Banned
I wasn't going to post this, but decided I would anyway. What I'm posting is that the left, such as Barbie and the others who posted on this thread about how crazy "conspiracy theorists" are, is that one of the top conspiracy theorists in the world is Hillary Clinton. Remember all her allegations of the "vast right wing conspiracy" which she has been alleging for decades? Remember all her excuses for losing the last presidential election, how many people she blamed for wrecking her chances? All of that is nothing more than Hillary indulging in her obsession with conspiracy theories.

What all this points to is that the very people who criticize "conspiracy theorists" are themselves believers in many conspiracy theories. The irony is almost overwhelming, but it is also hilarious at the same time.
 

User Name

Greatest poster ever
Banned
Yup. Both sides of the swamp have sold out to different entities. McConnell is owned by the Chinese through his in-laws who have made him a very wealthy man through their Chinese government contacts and state owned shipping companies.

Correct. It's good that you can see some of the corruption that exists on both sides. As you know, the Clintons are corrupt. Knowledge of that fact is a big reason why Hillary lost in 2016. Unfortunately, Trump is also corrupt, and he lies on a daily basis, if we can all be honest about it. America is divided, and the only way we can heal our divided nation is if we can see the corruption on both sides and clean the slate.
 

The Barbarian

BANNED
Banned
Notice that Barbarian did not even attempt to defend the Clinton Foundation.

I'm just showing you that you got the wrong foundation. Authorities had to shut down the Trump Foundation for corruption.

The Donald J. Trump Foundation agreed to dissolve under judicial supervision following allegations from the New York attorney general’s office that Trump used the charity for political and personal gain.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...n-closing-amid

The primary difference is that the Trump's actually skimmed off money from their "charitable" foundation.
How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

The real star of the day is Eric Trump, the president's second son and now the co-head of the Trump Organization, who has hosted this event for ten years on behalf of the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis. He's done a ton of good: To date, he's directed more than $11 million there, the vast majority of it via this annual golf event. He has also helped raise another $5 million through events with other organizations.

The best part about all this, according to Eric Trump, is the charity's efficiency: Because he can get his family's golf course for free and have most of the other costs donated, virtually all the money contributed will go toward helping kids with cancer. "We get to use our assets 100% free of charge," Trump tells Forbes.

That's not the case. In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it's clear that the course wasn't free--that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#538710256b4a

The Clinton Foundation is still functioning.
 

The Barbarian

BANNED
Banned
Barbarian chuckles:
I'm just showing you that you got the wrong foundation.

So are you actually saying that there was no corruption with the Clinton Foundation?

So you are actually saying that there other foundations are as corrupt as the Trump Foundation?
Or are you just going to take the Fifth?

The issue here is that the Trump foundation was so corrupt that it had to be shut down, after Trump used it like his piggy bank.
 

Gary K

New member
Banned
Correct. It's good that you can see some of the corruption that exists on both sides. As you know, the Clintons are corrupt. Knowledge of that fact is a big reason why Hillary lost in 2016. Unfortunately, Trump is also corrupt, and he lies on a daily basis, if we can all be honest about it. America is divided, and the only way we can heal our divided nation is if we can see the corruption on both sides and clean the slate.

I don't know if cooperation between a conservative and a leftist is possible any more. The corruption that the left has displayed since, and during, the 2016 presidential election has been so deep and the damage they have done to the Constitution and rule of law so great it has destroyed any trust that once existed on the conservative side for the left. The constant coup attempts by the deep state cooperating with the Democrats leaves me, and most other conservatives, with nothing and nobody to trust on that side. The volume and brazenness of lies emanating from that side leaves nothing but suspicion of anything they say and do. Some person or group that lies to me as many times as they have, has destroyed all trust between us. Respect and trust are earned so there has to be definite turnaround in tactics and behavior on the left before I would ever trust them. And that includes many Republicans for the Republicans have lied to us so many times that they aren't to be trusted either.
 

Jerry Shugart

Well-known member
Barbarian chuckles:
I'm just showing you that you got the wrong foundation.

The size of the Clinton Foundation was many times larger that that of the Trump Foundation so the corruption of the Clinton Foundation was many times worse than anything that happened in the Trump Foundation.

Why do you think that the funding of the Clinton Foundation dried up after Crooked Hillary lose her bid for the Presidency?

If you can't figure that out I can see why you support the Democrat Party, the party of lawlessness..
 
Top