Alate_One
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You don't care about the birds, you just hate gubmint telling you what to do. Also anything "libruls" like.
Besides . . .
climate hockey stick defeated
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You don't care about the birds, you just hate gubmint telling you what to do. Also anything "libruls" like.
Besides . . .
Alate_One
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No, he didn't. The chart is real. Continually confirmed by unprecedented weather and climatic events.
You'd think that if the earth were millions of years old, it would have settled down by now.
I agree that there are unprecedented natural disasters, events, etc, but the "climate change" is simply a result of the global flood, and is not caused by humanity growing.
We have people today who believe, as a result of so-called experts teaching that humanity is destroying the planet, that the only solution is to start decreasing the numbers of humans on the planet. It's one of the reasons given by a recent mass-shooter, saying something along the lines of him being the tool to decrease the number of humans.
genuineoriginal
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You don't care about the birds, you just hate gubmint telling you what to do. Also anything "libruls" like.
Besides . . .
Cats need to eat.
Wind turbines do not need to eat.
eider
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After a three-day blow from the North to North-East all the flotsam, dinghies, drifting craft, netting and other debris comes up on our beaches. but very few dead birds by comparison with North American statistics. I guess it all depends on where the wind turbines are? However if your stats are reason enough to hold wind power in a dark light, just take a look at how birds get killed by other means:- This from Google:-
Wind turbines kill between 214,000 and 368,000 birds annually — a small fraction compared with the estimated 6.8 million fatalities from collisions with cell and radio towers and the 1.4 billion to 3.7 billion deaths from cats, according to the peer-reviewed study by two federal scientists and the environmental ...15 Sep 2014
Got a mobile 'phone, have you?
Alate_One
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It doesn't work like that.
You deny that CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere?
Humans are destroying the planet, however randomly killing people is obviously unethical and not going to help anyway. The scale of the problem is far too large.
We need policy change to put the health and welfare of humanity and the planet first, over the profit margins of large corporations and shareholders. I would like to see my children, and hopefully grandchildren live in a world that is not so impoverished as to be unrecognizable.
Alate_One
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Cats don't provide clean energy. Wind turbines do. Cats are generally speaking, useless. People like them but they just use resources being warm and fluffy.
If you want to help birds, ban cats.
If you want to save the planet, we need wind turbines, solar panels and nuclear power plants.
eider
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Go on...... why not get yourself a hybrid?
They are amazing, will increase your range (per litre) by many miles, and if you get an IC failure you would be able to drive quite a long way for assistance.
And where I live you wouldn't have to pay much (if any) road tax.
Our scientists, politicians, engineers, power and transport specialists, and most of our folks are supporting a cleaner country, so we won't be listening to the denialists over what must be done to slow, reduce or put a brake on climate change.
ok doser
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and electric energy storage devices with an energy density surpassing petroleum derivatives
Alate_One
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All of the above, and more research into new energy technologies. But we need to have started 30 years ago, so we need accelerated implementation and research.
Neonics are much more of a problem for birds: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...UrF-DvtLV_EBpSQu2AurCiYTVU_tlId_Yzl44nq2TgvgQ
genuineoriginal
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genuineoriginal
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How many wind turbines does it take to kill 100,000 birds?
How many cell and radio towers does it take to kill 100,000 birds?
How many cats does it take to kill 100,000 birds?
I need ratios, not absolutes taken out of context.
genuineoriginal
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History shows that a rise in CO2 follows a rise in temperature.
Global Warming hoax claims that CO2 is causing the rise in temperature that precedes the rise in CO2.
genuineoriginal
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Monsanto is responsible for a lot of deaths.
We'll take that as tacit admission that your response was nonsensical. :chuckle:
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
do they breed genetically modified cats?
way 2 go
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you can't see global warming because it isn't happening
warnings are almost always 30 years from now because it isn't happening now
we are all always being warned we all going to die :noway: ... but here are .
ice comes ice goes ,ice comes ice goes ,ice comes ice goes ,ice comes ice goes ...
public policy based on lies I have a problem with.
example :carbon tax is just another tax grab
electric cars
:rotfl:
Alate_One
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Warming temperatures also increases CO2, it's called a feedback loop
That's how ice ages stopped in the past, small warming was amplified by CO2 in the atmosphere. Now we have potential for runaway climate change due to the same amplification feature.