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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jefferson View Post
    Looks like the Dems are the war party now.
    The swamp is the war party, and it is made up of both Republicans and Democrats. They get rich off the revenue streams generated by war that flow through Washington, D.C. so regardless of political affiliation they push war. The Dems scream about war when the Republicans own the WH, and Republicans scream about it when the Democrats own the WH. However, in the back ground they cooperate to keep the money flowing.
    “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

    “One and God make a majority.”
    ― Frederick Douglass

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    • #17

      Jennifer Griffin
      @JenGriffinFNC Follow on Twitter

      I just spoke to a distraught US Special Forces soldier who is among the 1000 or so US troops in Syria tonight who is serving alongside the SDF Kurdish forces. It was one of the hardest phone calls I have ever taken.

      "I am ashamed for the first time in my career."

      This veteran US Special forces soldier has trained indigenous forces on multiple continents. He is on the frontlines tonight and said they are witnessing Turkish atrocities.

      "Turkey is not doing what it agreed to. It's horrible," this military source on the ground told me.

      "We met every single security agreement. The Kurds met every single agreement. There was NO threat to the Turks - NONE - from this side of the border." "This is insanity," the concerned US service member told me. ""I don't know what they call atrocities but they are happening."

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1182053870744276993.html

      Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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      • #18
        It's kinda interesting that the televangelists, who stood by Trump doing sexual assaults, adulteries,tossing children into cages you wouldn't board your dog in, and soliciting foreign interference in our elections, suddenly find that his cowardly abandonment of the Kurds to appease a Turkish dictator is going too far.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
          We should be out of Syria...Sheesh
          Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
          Wow. You mean swamp creatures with fingers in the revenue streams coming from constant war are criticizing Trump for getting out of a war?
          Originally posted by Jefferson View Post
          Looks like the Dems are the war party now.
          Israelis see Trump’s Syria pullout as a ‘betrayal’ that could help unravel the region

          JERUSALEM —The abrupt withdrawal of U.S. troops from northeastern Syria and subsequent Turkish attacks on Kurdish fighters have badly rattled Israel’s national security experts, who decried President Trump’s action as a betrayal of loyal allies and evidence that Israel’s most vital supporter is a fickle friend at best.
          Last edited by User Name; October 11th, 2019, 03:41 PM.

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          • #20
            [COLOR=#1C2022][FONT=Helvetica]Andrew Feinberg
            @AndrewFeinberg


            The Trump administration is joining Russia in vetoing a UN Security Council resolution condemning @realDonaldTrump’s dictator friend Erdogan’s ethnic cleansing of the Kurds in Syria.

            US and Russia against the other permanent members. Let that sink in. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/un-security-council-fails-to-condemn-turkeys-military-action-in-syria/2019/10/10/9bff99d0-eb87-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html …


            The U.S. and Russia vetoed a statement by France, Germany, Belgium, Britain and Poland condemning the operation.

            What has happened to my country.

            Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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            • #21
              Originally posted by User Name View Post
              Israelis see Trump’s Syria pullout as a ‘betrayal’ that could help unravel the region

              JERUSALEM —The abrupt withdrawal of U.S. troops from northeastern Syria and subsequent Turkish attacks on Kurdish fighters have badly rattled Israel’s national security experts, who decried President Trump’s action as a betrayal of loyal allies and evidence that Israel’s most vital supporter is a fickle friend at best.
              Some people have no loyalties at all. The Likud just got a lesson in the way loyalty, for Trump, is strictly a one-way proposition.
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              • #22
                Trump says he’s ending the US role in Middle East wars.

                He’s sending 1,800 troops to Saudi Arabia.


                Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                  Some people have no loyalties at all...loyalty, for Trump, is strictly a one-way proposition.
                  Trump undoubtedly justifies throwing his lackeys under the bus on the grounds that they were foolish to enable him in the first place.
                  Last edited by User Name; October 12th, 2019, 11:10 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by User Name View Post
                    Trump undoubtedly justifies throwing his lackeys under the bus on the grounds that they were foolish to enable him in the first place.
                    They can't say they had no way of knowing; it's been his M.O. for decades.

                    I don't have much sympathy for them.
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                    • #25
                      U.S. forces say Turkey was deliberately ‘bracketing’ American troops with artillery fire in Syria

                      One Army officer who has deployed to northeastern Syria and has knowledge of the situation said that multiple rounds of 155mm fire were launched from Turkey’s side of the border and that they had a “bracketing effect” in which shells landed on both sides of the U.S. outpost.

                      “That’s an area weapon,” the officer said, noting its explosive effects. “That’s not something we ever would have done to a partner force.”

                      The officer said Turkey knew there were Americans on the hill and that it had to be deliberate. The service members vacated the outpost after the incident but returned Saturday, according to a U.S. official and images circulating on social media.

                      “We had been there for months, and it is the most clearly defined position in that entire area,” the officer said.

                      Brett McGurk, a former special envoy for both the Obama and Trump administrations in the campaign against the Islamic State, raised concerns about the incident Friday, saying on Twitter that the United States had declared the position to Turkey.

                      “This was not a mistake,” he said.

                      Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                      • #26
                        Turkey's Brutal Offensive Is Already a Disaster for the Kurds, a US Ally

                        Beyond the rising death toll, the assault has sparked a mass exodus of civilians, with at least 70,000 people having fled border towns like Ras al-Ain and Tal Abyad on the frontlines of the battle, and many more expected to follow.

                        The mass displacement threatened to create a new humanitarian crisis in the region, the U.N. warned Friday.

                        Amnesty International said the destabilizing impact of the offensive meant about half a million people in the border region were potentially at risk. “Hostilities will impact and restrict access to humanitarian aid, pushing the civilian population, which has already suffered years of violence and displacement, to the brink,” said Europe director Marie Struthers.



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                        • #27
                          Trump is gradually destroying any credibility the United States had as a trustworthy ally and partner.

                          He has no values higher than his own self-interest.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                            Trump is gradually destroying any credibility the United States had as a trustworthy ally and partner.
                            Mr. Obama wasn't much help in that regard either. I'm not sure about pre-Obama administrations.

                            (Note: I am not a fan of either Obama or of Trump, for very different reasons. Do not try to label me with typical US identity politics labels.)

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                            • #29
                              Consider how Obama is regarded in other nations, relative to Trump:

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                              • #30


                                Pretty much says it all, um?
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