McConnell: "We didn't mean THAT kind of ballot security!

[ok doser]

How about presenting your own thoughts?

 

[ok doser]

For example, you could post a political cartoon and in the same post comment on the subject matter

 

[annabenedetti]

There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time

Seriously? After a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report saying that's exactly what could happen?

 

[annabenedetti]

How about presenting your own thoughts?

You know I do, so how about you stop carrying JR's water for him?

 

[drbrumley]

Seriously? After a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report saying that's exactly what could happen?

Hey, I'm just quoting YOUR favorite and greatest President, the smartest man in the room, Barrack OBAMA.

And I believe him..

 

[annabenedetti]

Hey, I'm just quoting YOUR favorite and greatest President, the smartest man in the room, Barrack OBAMA.

And I believe him..

What about the senate report?

 

[JudgeRightly]

@JudgeRightly Two images in a row is spamming? Good to know. So one image at a time is okay?

Because political cartoons and memes convey ideas through images and/or by a distillation of words, they can add to the conversation and are a nice break from all text. I could type it out, I guess, like this:

His name is Addison Mitchell McConnell Jr. He will be known by historians as a man with no conviction except for the pursuit of power at all cost. He will be known as the Republican leader who broke the senate and hurt the county for his personal gains. He will be known as the politician who defended Russian tactics over the security of the country. But, in the end he will be remembered as a TRAITOR


​

But it's not the same, is it?

What about a thread dedicated to political cartoons? Would that be acceptable? Seems like we used to have a thread like that here once.

Posting images alone (let alone multiple within mere minutes of each other) is not "substantive" content. Anyone can post nothing but images that reflect their beliefs, but doing so prevents dialogue.

I gave you a warning, not an infraction, because I didn't want to kill the thread.

 

[annabenedetti]

Posting images alone (let alone multiple within mere minutes of each other) is not "substantive" content. Anyone can post nothing but images that reflect their beliefs, but doing so prevents dialogue.

I gave you a warning, not an infraction, because I didn't want to kill the thread.

Well, I'd say in this instance it did promote dialogue, as you can see in the posts following.

So, what about a dedicated political cartoon thread? I'd like to start one.

 

[drbrumley]

What about the senate report?

What about it?



This story was originally posted on RCP Video on October 18, 2016: In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possiblity that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time," the president said to the future president in October 2016.

"Democracy survives because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign, and that is making sure the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force," Obama said.

"I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It is unprecedented. It happens to be based on no fact. Every expert regardless of political party... who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found. Keep in mind elections are run by state and local officials."



"That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness you'd want from a president," he also said. "You start whining before the game is even over? If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. Than you don't have what it takes to be in this job."

"And if he gets the most votes, it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to ensure that the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he has said about me, or my differences with him, and escort him over to the Capitol at which there would be a peaceful transfer of power. That is what Americans do. That is why America is already great. One way to make it less great, is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries."


"So I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining, and go make his case to get votes," the president said strongly.

 

[annabenedetti]

What about it?



This story was originally posted on RCP Video on October 18, 2016: In a press conference a few weeks before the 2016 election, President Barack Obama told Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to "stop whining" about the possiblity that the election could be "rigged," saying that there is no evidence that election rigging has ever happened or could ever happen.

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they are so decentralized. There is no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances that that could happen this time," the president said to the future president in October 2016.

"Democracy survives because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign, and that is making sure the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force," Obama said.

"I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It is unprecedented. It happens to be based on no fact. Every expert regardless of political party... who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found. Keep in mind elections are run by state and local officials."



"That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness you'd want from a president," he also said. "You start whining before the game is even over? If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else. Than you don't have what it takes to be in this job."

"And if he gets the most votes, it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to ensure that the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he has said about me, or my differences with him, and escort him over to the Capitol at which there would be a peaceful transfer of power. That is what Americans do. That is why America is already great. One way to make it less great, is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries."


"So I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining, and go make his case to get votes," the president said strongly.

I'm not interested in something from three years ago.

Do you know the content of the recent senate intelligence report?

 

[drbrumley]

I'm not interested in something from three years ago.

You should, cause Trump originally brought it up pre election...After he wins, your group decides to use his tricks, and as a result, pretty much reaffirmed what Obama said....

 

[annabenedetti]

You should, cause Trump originally brought it up pre election...After he wins, your group decides to use his tricks, and as a result, pretty much reaffirmed what Obama said....

So... you don't know what the senate report said. Let me help by referring you back to my earlier post in this thread (I added some red for you):

Senate Finds Russia Attempted to Interfere in Elections in All 50 States in 2016


The day after former special counsel Robert Mueller told Congress that Russians are tampering with U.S. election infrastructure “as we sit here,” the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that determined that Moscow targeted elections in all 50 states in 2016, an extent much greater than previously revealed.

The 67-page report concluded that there was no evidence of votes being changed at the polls, although in Illinois, “Russian cyberactors were in a position to delete or change voter data.” The report also stated that there is “an unprecedented level of activity against state election infrastructure” as Russia searches for security flaws in states’ election software. Even as we approach the next election, the intelligence community is unclear as to why Russia — which had breached U.S. election infrastructure in 2014 — hacked into the polls without acting. The report states that the GRU, Moscow’s foreign military-intelligence agency, could have been testing out vulnerabilities “for use at a later date.” This was the main concern of the NSA, DHS, and FBI.

Also new to the report was the detail that Russian officials requested to send election observers to the U.S. for the 2016 election, as is routine for the U.S. State Department to do in other countries. The request was a red flag for the Intelligence committee, as most election machines are offline — meaning that the easiest way to directly tamper with votes would be by physically accessing them, rather than attempting to hack into individual devices at the ballot.

Meanwhile, Democrats have proposed two bills that would help provide election security in 2020, requiring campaigns to alert the intelligence community and the Federal Election Commission if they receive offers of assistance from abroad, as the Trump camp did in 2016. But on Wednesday, Republican senator Cindy Hyde-Smith blocked the motion, which was seconded by Mitch McConnell on Thursday. McConnell called the bills “partisan legislation”; in his testimony, Robert Mueller called Russian interference the “new normal.”

 

[The Barbarian]

McConnell says that it's patriotic to make it easier for our enemies to interfere in our elections.

"But they aren't my enemies!" says Moscow Mitch

 

[The Barbarian]

Can you imagine how Ronald Reagan would have reacted if one of his aides had suggested allowing an enemy state to mess with our elections, because it meant more republicans would win?

I'm thinking Reagan would have tossed him out the window.

That's how far the republican party has fallen since Reagan.

 

[annabenedetti]

Can you imagine how Ronald Reagan would have reacted if one of his aides had suggested allowing an enemy state to mess with our elections, because it meant more republicans would win?

I'm thinking Reagan would have tossed him out the window.

That's how far the republican party has fallen since Reagan.

A couple days ago I read Reagan's racist comments, prior to which I had no idea this side of him existed. What a disappointment.

 

[The Barbarian]

A couple days ago I read Reagan's racist comments, prior to which I had no idea this side of him existed. What a disappointment.

He grew up before WWII, when that kind of thing wasn't even considered to be evil. Yes, he was badly prejudiced in principle. So was my father. But one-on-one, he couldn't act that way. I discovered after he had died, that just before shipping out to Europe in the war, he had to sell his car. Instead, he gave it away to a black guy he knew, who needed transportation for his job.

And my father was a guy who referred to black people with an insulting name, when they weren't around. Lincoln thought blacks were inferior to whites. Jefferson owned slaves. There was a moral blind spot in our society on race, for a long time. You have to consider people in the context of the times in which they lived.

 

[ok doser]

Lincoln thought blacks were inferior to whites.

Turns out he was right

They are inferior to whites in some ways

Turns out they're superior to whites in other ways

 

[The Barbarian]

 

[The Barbarian]

Two former top staffers to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have lobbied Congress and the Treasury Department on the development of a new Kentucky aluminum mill backed by the Russian aluminum giant Rusal, according to a new lobbying disclosure.

The disclosure comes as Democrats are pushing the Trump administration to review Rusal’s $200 million investment in the Kentucky project — concerned that the mill will supply the Defense Department — and as McConnell weathers criticism for helping block a congressional effort to stop the investment.

[...]

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin announced in December that the department would lift the sanctions on Deripaska's companies, which had roiled global aluminum markets, if the oligarch agreed to drastically reduce his stake in the businesses. The deal was reportedly potentially beneficial to Deripaska, however. Deripaska himself still remains under U.S. sanctions.

Attention over the sanctions relief deal has focused on McConnell, given his role in halting a bipartisan congressional effort to stop the penalties rollback. McConnell told reporters in May that his support for lifting the sanctions was “completely unrelated to anything that might happen in my home state.”
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...tch-earns-the-Nickname-Lobbyists-records-show

Of course it was, Mitch...

 

[ok doser]

Sounds like a good deal for Kentucky ! :thumb: