Alternatives to Abortion

Jacob

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Wouldn't it be nice if abortion did not even come up as an option when a person becomes pregnant? For example, if keep the baby or adoption meant be the mother you are called to be or allow someone else to parent your child, meaning keep or give up for adoption not keep or abort?

What are the options that a person has when they become pregnant, should they themself live?

Abortion is not an option as God never wants a person to use their free will to choose to murder their unborn or preborn child.

Pregnancy should ideally come about only in marriage or only in the confines of marriage.
 

Rusha

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Alternatives to abortion? There is only one valid alternative: give birth.

Alternatives to being a mother: adoption.
 

Jacob

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Alternatives to abortion? There is only one valid alternative: give birth.

Alternatives to being a mother: adoption.
That makes sense.

Education is likely not necessary for those who would just give birth once they are pregnant.
 

Jacob

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Abortion is just the politically correct term for murdering a child in his mother's womb.

Unless one can reverse death, what you heard is nonsense.
I believe that it is that some drug can save a life. If the baby is drugged maybe. I don't know.
 

The Horn

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Pro-choicers like me aren't opposed to adoption per se. If a pregnant woman decides to put her child up for adoption, this is her right . However, adoption is extremely problematic and is no guarantee of anything .
It's not easy to adopt children . The process is long and full of red tape. And because of this, thousands and thousands of children who were were put up for adoption have been waiting indefinitely to be placed in good homes with loving ,caring adoptive parents . Many are now teenagers and they have never been adopted . They are placed in temporary foster homes which in many cases do not provide them with good care , and the temporary foster parents are not always good people . Cases of neglect , physical and or sexual abuse have been very common .
Ultimately, there is only one way to prevent abortion - to prevent unwanted pregnancies .
All pro-choicers, including yours truly , want to prevent as many abortions as possible - to make sure women are able to avoid getting pregnant when bearing a child would place a terrible burden on them and their children . But preventing unwanted pregnancies is more easily said than done .
People who oppose abortion must show much greater concern for children once they are born . But hardly any do . They should not support and vote for Republican politicians, because they have been consistently voting for decades to deprive poor women of everything they need to prevent unwanted pregnancies and provide for children once born . This is the height of hypocrisy .
Remember- babies are still helpless once out of the womb . They must have good , clean housing, good nutrition and they must never be denied health care . The Republicans h ave done absolutely nothing to make sure babies and children are well provided for once born . This automatically guarantees a higher abortion rate . Trying to stop abortion by making it illegal is like trying to stop a forest fire by pouring gasoline on it . It only makes a bad situation far worse .
 

Jacob

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Pro-choicers like me aren't opposed to adoption per se. If a pregnant woman decides to put her child up for adoption, this is her right . However, adoption is extremely problematic and is no guarantee of anything .
It's not easy to adopt children . The process is long and full of red tape. And because of this, thousands and thousands of children who were were put up for adoption have been waiting indefinitely to be placed in good homes with loving ,caring adoptive parents . Many are now teenagers and they have never been adopted . They are placed in temporary foster homes which in many cases do not provide them with good care , and the temporary foster parents are not always good people . Cases of neglect , physical and or sexual abuse have been very common .
Ultimately, there is only one way to prevent abortion - to prevent unwanted pregnancies .
All pro-choicers, including yours truly , want to prevent as many abortions as possible - to make sure women are able to avoid getting pregnant when bearing a child would place a terrible burden on them and their children . But preventing unwanted pregnancies is more easily said than done .
People who oppose abortion must show much greater concern for children once they are born . But hardly any do . They should not support and vote for Republican politicians, because they have been consistently voting for decades to deprive poor women of everything they need to prevent unwanted pregnancies and provide for children once born . This is the height of hypocrisy .
Remember- babies are still helpless once out of the womb . They must have good , clean housing, good nutrition and they must never be denied health care . The Republicans h ave done absolutely nothing to make sure babies and children are well provided for once born . This automatically guarantees a higher abortion rate . Trying to stop abortion by making it illegal is like trying to stop a forest fire by pouring gasoline on it . It only makes a bad situation far worse .
You make some leaps here. I encourage you to consider the value of life. Not good enough living conditions is not a cause for abortion.
 

Kit the Coyote

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I heard something like that but I do not see it in the article.

I think you heard something from the infamous Dr. Singer, a medical ethicist. He pointed out that babies are not really sentient (self-aware) until around the age of one. He then argued that children with severe physical and mental disabilities that would prevent them from contributing to society should be euthanized before their first birthday so they are not a strain on their parents or society.
 

Kit the Coyote

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Another option to abortion is to have the baby and then murder it outside the womb. At least that seems to be the direction we are going...

New York State Senate Passes Bill Permitting Abortions up to Birth
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/new-york-state-senate-passes-expansive-abortion-bill/

With these notable restrictions:
“the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.”

Essentially if the child is going to be born dead anyway or the mother's life and health are threatened then a late-term abortion is allowed. That not too different from most other states that allow late-term abortions.
 

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I think you heard something from the infamous Dr. Singer, a medical ethicist. He pointed out that babies are not really sentient (self-aware) until around the age of one. He then argued that children with severe physical and mental disabilities that would prevent them from contributing to society should be euthanized before their first birthday so they are not a strain on their parents or society.
Evil is evil.

Why not allow parents to murder their children up to 18 or 21?

Some teenagers are a real pain.
 

Jacob

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I think you heard something from the infamous Dr. Singer, a medical ethicist. He pointed out that babies are not really sentient (self-aware) until around the age of one. He then argued that children with severe physical and mental disabilities that would prevent them from contributing to society should be euthanized before their first birthday so they are not a strain on their parents or society.
That is horrible.
 

The Horn

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"Not good enough living conditions "? You mean it's OK to allow children to grow up in terrible conditions, which so many in America already are ? It's not a question of "the value of life , whatever that is . If pregnant women can't provide for their children they are going to have abortions whether they are legal or not .You can't stop them. They will always find a way , safe or legal or unsafe and dangerous . Where is YOUR concern for poor children ? How many poor black and Hispanic children have YOU adopted ? You hypocrisy is showing .
 
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