You've had your fun mocking my thread as well, you can leave now Mr. Libertarian.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...utlaw-sodomy&p=4634285&viewfull=1#post4634285
Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5
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You've had your fun mocking my thread as well, you can leave now Mr. Libertarian.
As promised, for those wanting to share Donald Trump's homosexual activism with others: A review of Donald Trump's pro homosexual history, past and present, lumped together in 2 or 3 (possibly 4) posts. In this post, a concise review of Trump's pro homosexual/transgender activism before being elected President of the United States.
*On homosexual/homosexual activist Elton John's 'marriage' to David Furnish, Dec. 21, 2005: Donald J. Trump, who had known the couple for years, took to his blog to express his excitement.
“I know both of them, and they get along wonderfully. It’s a marriage that’s going to work,” Mr. Trump wrote, adding: “I’m very happy for them. If two people dig each other, they dig each other.”
*Trump donated to charities focused on the AIDS crisis in the late 1980s and early ’90s. In 2000, when he briefly considered running for president, he gave an interview to The Advocate, a gay magazine, in which he supported amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to “include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation.”
“It would be simple. It would be straightforward,” Mr. Trump said in the interview, adding, “It’s only fair.”
*…“I live in New York. I know many, many gay people. Tremendous people,” Mr. Trump said in an interview in 2011.
*Trump has been playful at times, such as in 2000, when he and Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani appeared in a skit for a political roast, during which Mr. Trump nuzzled and caressed the mayor, who was dressed in drag.
* Trump was believed to be the first private club owner in Palm Beach, Fla., to admit an openly gay couple,..
Rand Hoch, a gay activist who founded the Palm Beach County Human Rights Council in 1988, recalled bringing dates to Mar-a-Lago on two occasions. Both times, he said, Mr. Trump, who loves to play the role of greeter as guests arrive at his club, was pleasant and approached the two for chitchat...
*Abe Wallach, an openly gay executive at the Trump Organization in the 1990s said that he and his husband would fly on Mr. Trump’s jet to Florida or Atlantic City on weekends. “I found him to be very friendly to my spouse,” he said. “He would often ask about my spouse, how his dental practice was doing.”
*Mr. Trump’s foundation has given over the years to groups like the AIDS Service Center and the Elton John AIDS Foundation. Some of those donations came more recently in connection with his reality television show “The Celebrity Apprentice,” whose winners got to select the recipient charities. But as early as 1987, Mr. Trump made a $25,000 contribution to the Gay Men’s Health Crisis, from profits generated by his company’s operation of the Wollman Memorial Rink in Central Park. And in 1992, the Trump Taj Mahal held an event that raised $60,000 for AIDS research.
*… In 2012, Mr. Trump attended the wedding of Jordan Roth, a Broadway producer, and Richie Jackson, in a ceremony at the Al Hirschfeld Theater.
*As owner of the Miss Universe Pageant (2012), Donald Trump overruled the pageant board and allowed a genitally mutilated man, pretending to be a woman, to compete.
*As a Republican Party Presidential contender in 2016, Donald Trump stated on NBC’s “Today” show that he opposed a recently passed North Carolina law that prohibits people from using public bathrooms that do not correspond to the gender they were born with, striking down a Charlotte ordinance. Transgender people should “use the bathroom they feel is appropriate...”
*During the Presidential campaign Donald Trump publically invited drag queen/transgender activist Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner to use the women's restroom at Trump Tower (Jenner made a YouTube video taking Trump up on his offer).
*Trump proudly held the LGBTQ flag of death two days before the general election at a rally in Colorado (my avatar is proof).
*… “He will be the most gay-friendly Republican nominee for president ever,” said Gregory T. Angelo, the president of the Log Cabin Republicans, a group that supports gay rights.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-5&p=5279660&viewfull=1#post5279660
Chris Barron: Co-founder of the homosexual activist group "GOProud"
*On homosexual/homosexual activist Elton John's 'marriage' to David Furnish, Dec. 21, 2005: Donald J. Trump, who had known the couple for years, took to his blog to express his excitement.
“I know both of them, and they get along wonderfully. It’s a marriage that’s going to work,” Mr. Trump wrote, adding: “I’m very happy for them. If two people dig each other, they dig each other.”
*Trump donated to charities focused on the AIDS crisis in the late 1980s and early ’90s. In 2000, when he briefly considered running for president, he gave an interview to The Advocate, a gay magazine, in which he supported amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to “include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation.”
“It would be simple. It would be straightforward,” Mr. Trump said in the interview, adding, “It’s only fair.”
*…“I live in New York. I know many, many gay people. Tremendous people,” Mr. Trump said in an interview in 2011.
*Trump has been playful at times, such as in 2000, when he and Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani appeared in a skit for a political roast, during which Mr. Trump nuzzled and caressed the mayor, who was dressed in drag.
* Trump was believed to be the first private club owner in Palm Beach, Fla., to admit an openly gay couple,..
Rand Hoch, a gay activist who founded the Palm Beach County Human Rights Council in 1988, recalled bringing dates to Mar-a-Lago on two occasions. Both times, he said, Mr. Trump, who loves to play the role of greeter as guests arrive at his club, was pleasant and approached the two for chitchat...
*Abe Wallach, an openly gay executive at the Trump Organization in the 1990s said that he and his husband would fly on Mr. Trump’s jet to Florida or Atlantic City on weekends. “I found him to be very friendly to my spouse,” he said. “He would often ask about my spouse, how his dental practice was doing.”
*Mr. Trump’s foundation has given over the years to groups like the AIDS Service Center and the Elton John AIDS Foundation. Some of those donations came more recently in connection with his reality television show “The Celebrity Apprentice,” whose winners got to select the recipient charities. But as early as 1987, Mr. Trump made a $25,000 contribution to the Gay Men’s Health Crisis, from profits generated by his company’s operation of the Wollman Memorial Rink in Central Park. And in 1992, the Trump Taj Mahal held an event that raised $60,000 for AIDS research.
*… In 2012, Mr. Trump attended the wedding of Jordan Roth, a Broadway producer, and Richie Jackson, in a ceremony at the Al Hirschfeld Theater.
*As owner of the Miss Universe Pageant (2012), Donald Trump overruled the pageant board and allowed a genitally mutilated man, pretending to be a woman, to compete.
*As a Republican Party Presidential contender in 2016, Donald Trump stated on NBC’s “Today” show that he opposed a recently passed North Carolina law that prohibits people from using public bathrooms that do not correspond to the gender they were born with, striking down a Charlotte ordinance. Transgender people should “use the bathroom they feel is appropriate...”
*During the Presidential campaign Donald Trump publically invited drag queen/transgender activist Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner to use the women's restroom at Trump Tower (Jenner made a YouTube video taking Trump up on his offer).
*Trump proudly held the LGBTQ flag of death two days before the general election at a rally in Colorado (my avatar is proof).
*… “He will be the most gay-friendly Republican nominee for president ever,” said Gregory T. Angelo, the president of the Log Cabin Republicans, a group that supports gay rights.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-5&p=5279660&viewfull=1#post5279660
Chris Barron: Co-founder of the homosexual activist group "GOProud"
Kit the Coyote
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You are dodging again. What specific laws are not being enforced and what specifically do we need to do to solve the problems that you are complaining about? Petitioning a gay web site would not be effective any more than ranting for years on a little read Christian political forum is. When I said petition I was speaking specifically of petitioning legislatures, advocating the passing of laws and enforcement of others.
My specific advisement on the case of the boy was a law placing an age limit on drag queen performances.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
"Officer! Officer! There's all kinds of sexual depravity going on in this country and children are being used as fodder by the LGBT movement to promote their agenda, do something about it!"
As I've shown many times throughout this 5 part thread, there are still laws on the books that aren't being enforced that would do great damage to your LGBT movement if enforced. However, that isn't the theme of this 5 part thread. Since homosexual pedophile Alfred Kinsey made his fraudulent research go public back in the 1950's, the mindset of America has changed for the worse when it comes to sexuality. Add the fact that homosexual activist Frank "I see nothing wrong with bestiality..." Kameny and his fellow homosexual activists intimidated the American Psychiatric Association into removing homosexuality from it's list of mental disorders, which resulted in many States decriminalizing homosexuality, the basis of today's sexual anarchist movement had been established. Add the fact that activist Supreme Court Justices overruled State sodomy laws in Lawrence v Texas and then again went against State constitutions when it came to marriage in Obergefell v Hodges, the homosexual agenda is moving full speed ahead.
What should people who embrace decency do about It? Educate themselves as to what your LGBT movement is all about and share it with others. Someday people will have had enough and will start to speak out and take action to defeat an evil movement that is built on a lie.
Sorry Kit, but you're on the losing side as truth always wins in the end.
"Officer! Officer! There's all kinds of sexual depravity going on in this country and children are being used as fodder by the LGBT movement to promote their agenda, do something about it!"
As I've shown many times throughout this 5 part thread, there are still laws on the books that aren't being enforced that would do great damage to your LGBT movement if enforced. However, that isn't the theme of this 5 part thread. Since homosexual pedophile Alfred Kinsey made his fraudulent research go public back in the 1950's, the mindset of America has changed for the worse when it comes to sexuality. Add the fact that homosexual activist Frank "I see nothing wrong with bestiality..." Kameny and his fellow homosexual activists intimidated the American Psychiatric Association into removing homosexuality from it's list of mental disorders, which resulted in many States decriminalizing homosexuality, the basis of today's sexual anarchist movement had been established. Add the fact that activist Supreme Court Justices overruled State sodomy laws in Lawrence v Texas and then again went against State constitutions when it came to marriage in Obergefell v Hodges, the homosexual agenda is moving full speed ahead.
What should people who embrace decency do about It? Educate themselves as to what your LGBT movement is all about and share it with others. Someday people will have had enough and will start to speak out and take action to defeat an evil movement that is built on a lie.
Sorry Kit, but you're on the losing side as truth always wins in the end.
Kit the Coyote
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Well if this thread is your solution you should probably clean it up a bit. Homosexual attraction was never a crime, it was specific acts that were criminalized and then enforcement of those laws was limited to homosexuals. Homosexuality was considered a mental illness. So really to be accurate your thread should be Why Sodomy must be recriminalized or Why Homosexuality must be criminalized.
I suspect those host of laws you are referring to are laws that have been superseded by Lawerance v Texas and Obergefell v Hodges so they are not enforceable. So you need to address that issue before you can enforce them. We just had a slew of those repealed here in Colorado last year, they were still on the books but unenforceable because any case based on them would be immediately thrown out citing Lawerance v Texas.
I'm really trying to be in a helpful friendly mode here and determine what it is you think should happen and what the problems and obstacles that you need to overcome. Though I really think your biggest obstacle is the Constitution itself with the equal treatment under the law protections. Any law you want to apply has to apply to heterosexuals as well as homosexuals or be very specifically tailored.
Take the example I put forward, you put an age limit on boys dressing like a drag queen, how narrowly is it tailored? Would an all-boys school doing Shakesphere plays the way the original company did them with male actors playing the female roles be in violation?
And your diversions into the great LGBT and APA conspiracy does not help to answer these questions even if they are true. How do you overcome them?
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
What should people who embrace decency do about It? Educate themselves as to what your LGBT movement is all about and share it with others. Someday people will have had enough and will start to speak out and take action to defeat an evil movement that is built on a lie.
Sorry Kit, but you're on the losing side as truth always wins in the end.
Educating others is part of the "solution", organizing and taken action is the rest. There are many pro family organizations out there sharing the truth about homosexuality (MassResistance, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, American Family Association, Family Research Institute, (not to be confused with Phony Perkins' Family Research Council, which barred MassResistance from CPAC and hires openly homosexual men and women in their organization ) etc.. While not all of them are fighting this culture war the way I think it should be fought (exposing Donald Trump for the rainbow flag waver that he is), they're still sharing this important message to others.
Yet it is "a crime" to seek legitimate therapy to help understand and possibly overcome those desires (the 'gaystapo' at work).
Mark me down for being inaccurate on the title (it'll stay as it is).
Lewd act in a public place, public nudity laws, Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor and Federal RICO laws are still on the legislative books in every State (even in the land of fruits and nuts, California).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
I'd already pointed out that left wing activist SCOTUS decisions have made a major impact on today's laws.
Help yourself first Kit by denouncing the homosexual movement and the lifestyle that you're engaging in. That involves asking God into your life and hard work, but it can be done. Of course that would put you in the "EX" group, and hence one of the most HATED individuals to walk the earth as seen through the eyes of the LGBT movement. But hey, you'll be a man once again and stand for what's right.
What should people who embrace decency do about It? Educate themselves as to what your LGBT movement is all about and share it with others. Someday people will have had enough and will start to speak out and take action to defeat an evil movement that is built on a lie.
Sorry Kit, but you're on the losing side as truth always wins in the end.
Educating others is part of the "solution", organizing and taken action is the rest. There are many pro family organizations out there sharing the truth about homosexuality (MassResistance, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, American Family Association, Family Research Institute, (not to be confused with Phony Perkins' Family Research Council, which barred MassResistance from CPAC and hires openly homosexual men and women in their organization ) etc.. While not all of them are fighting this culture war the way I think it should be fought (exposing Donald Trump for the rainbow flag waver that he is), they're still sharing this important message to others.
Yet it is "a crime" to seek legitimate therapy to help understand and possibly overcome those desires (the 'gaystapo' at work).
Mark me down for being inaccurate on the title (it'll stay as it is).
Lewd act in a public place, public nudity laws, Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor and Federal RICO laws are still on the legislative books in every State (even in the land of fruits and nuts, California).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
I'd already pointed out that left wing activist SCOTUS decisions have made a major impact on today's laws.
Help yourself first Kit by denouncing the homosexual movement and the lifestyle that you're engaging in. That involves asking God into your life and hard work, but it can be done. Of course that would put you in the "EX" group, and hence one of the most HATED individuals to walk the earth as seen through the eyes of the LGBT movement. But hey, you'll be a man once again and stand for what's right.
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When are you finally going to check in to a mental hospital. It is long overdue.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-5&p=5315594&viewfull=1#post5315594
I remember the night of the Presidential election and watching in the chatbox how excited you were that Donald Trump was elected. He wasn't Ron Paul, but the next best thing for you Libertarians.
You don't remember his daughter snubbing a gay activist either. Trump's actions show he isn't as pro-gay as he looks. The trumps only give these people lip service, and in exchange the either don't get what they want or worse they think they get what they want. Yes there needs to be new sodomy laws, because it would bring down the cost of Obamacare.
I think Trump is agnostic on the subject. On an inner gut level he probably recoils against the homo perverts as do all normal people, and rightly so. But on a conscience level, being a lifelong New Yorker and living in the great melting pot, plus being non-religious most of his life, he neither likes or dislikes them. He does not really care. I am sure he is not "anti" gay though.
By the way, snubbing a gay activist not not make one anti-gay. Snubbing any person does not make you anti-whatever-they-are.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
I remember the night of the Presidential election and watching in the chatbox how excited you were that Donald Trump was elected. He wasn't Ron Paul, but the next best thing for you Libertarians.
I don't recall seeing Trump's daughter Ivanka on the ballot. Since you brought up Ivanka Trump, conservatives such as AFTAH's Peter LaBarbera and numerous Orthodox Jewish rabbis who have watched her closely are troubled by her and her husbands LGBT activism.
Ivanka Trump’s LGBT activism contradicts her Jewish faith
Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, and her husband, Jared Kushner, are flouting their professed orthodox Jewish religion by advocating for the sins of homosexual behavior and “same-sex marriage,” several orthodox rabbis and traditional practitioners of Judaism told LifeSiteNews.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ivanka-trumps-lgbt-activism-contradicts-her-jewish-faith
While I'm working on an accumulation of actions showing what Donald Trump has done for the LGBT movement since becoming President to put in one or two posts (saying that Obergefell v Hodges "is settled law...it's done" is more than lip service) his LGBT activism prior to becoming President speaks for itself.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-5&p=5315594&viewfull=1#post5315594
Spoken like a true Libertarian. Who cares if these lost souls are living a deathstyle that causes misery, disease and early death and are going to spend eternity separated from God? Who cares that these lost souls are indoctrinating innocent children to the ways of sexual perversion and taking away parental rights? Who cares that these lost souls are redefining and destroying societies invaluable institutions? There's a dollar to be saved by creating new sodomy laws!
I remember the night of the Presidential election and watching in the chatbox how excited you were that Donald Trump was elected. He wasn't Ron Paul, but the next best thing for you Libertarians.
I don't recall seeing Trump's daughter Ivanka on the ballot. Since you brought up Ivanka Trump, conservatives such as AFTAH's Peter LaBarbera and numerous Orthodox Jewish rabbis who have watched her closely are troubled by her and her husbands LGBT activism.
Ivanka Trump’s LGBT activism contradicts her Jewish faith
Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, and her husband, Jared Kushner, are flouting their professed orthodox Jewish religion by advocating for the sins of homosexual behavior and “same-sex marriage,” several orthodox rabbis and traditional practitioners of Judaism told LifeSiteNews.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ivanka-trumps-lgbt-activism-contradicts-her-jewish-faith
While I'm working on an accumulation of actions showing what Donald Trump has done for the LGBT movement since becoming President to put in one or two posts (saying that Obergefell v Hodges "is settled law...it's done" is more than lip service) his LGBT activism prior to becoming President speaks for itself.
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-5&p=5315594&viewfull=1#post5315594
Spoken like a true Libertarian. Who cares if these lost souls are living a deathstyle that causes misery, disease and early death and are going to spend eternity separated from God? Who cares that these lost souls are indoctrinating innocent children to the ways of sexual perversion and taking away parental rights? Who cares that these lost souls are redefining and destroying societies invaluable institutions? There's a dollar to be saved by creating new sodomy laws!
Kit the Coyote
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I agree and it has happened, as more people got to know LGBT folks and found out that they are not all the demons that you and others make them out to be.
The key word being legitimate, the state and the medical community have always had the right to regulate safe and unsafe practices in the community. I've pointed out before what needs to be done if you think the banned therapies are safe. Legitimate therapies are available for those that want them, some even provide for the outcome you desire.
I agree such laws should be applied where appropriate. Oddly they don't seem to address the issue you were raising. Drag queens usually have more clothing on than most, delinquency of a minor and RICO requires that something illegal is going on and as I pointed out, it is not illegal to be a drag queen.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
embracing sin, calling evil good - i'd say that's a strong indication that they're demon-led, if not demons themselves
And now more propaganda words from the new and improved rainbow flag waver Kit the Coyote:
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
What should people who embrace decency do about It? Educate themselves as to what your LGBT movement is all about and share it with others. Someday people will have had enough and will start to speak out and take action to defeat an evil movement that is built on a lie.
Educating others is part of the "solution", organizing and taken action is the rest. There are many pro family organizations out there sharing the truth about homosexuality (MassResistance, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, American Family Association, Family Research Institute, Family Research Council, etc. etc.). While not all of them are fighting this culture war the way I think it should be fought (exposing Donald Trump for the rainbow flag waver that he is), they're still sharing this important message to others.
More people need to get to know EX LGBT folks, as unlike proud and unrepentant homosexuals, they're honest about what caused their perverse sexual desires and that they can be changed. EX LGBT folks will tell others about the deathstyle that comes with homosexuality. They'll tell others about the harassment they the are subjected to by the LGBT movement for having the audacity to leave a movement that no one is supposed to leave unless it's in a coffin.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Yet it is "a crime" to seek legitimate therapy to help understand and possibly overcome those desires (the 'gaystapo' at work).
It's been pointed out many times during our numerous reparative/conversion therapy discussions that the only "legitimate" therapy for those with homosexual desires that your LGBT movement approves of is the fraudulent therapy that affirms homosexual desires and behavior.
What would HRC founder Terry Bean, former Seattle Mayor Ed Murray and the long list of homosexual icons who are pederasts and/or pedophiles do if these children actually received therapy and overcame their same sex desires? I suspect Bean, Murray and company would have to find lads over the age of 16 to have sex with.
Who would carry on the LGBT movement's agenda if young children weren't indoctrinated to approve of sexual perversion? Granted, living to the ripe old age of 45 is a very long time for a homosexual activist, but they need to plant the seed of death in the minds of youth in order for the LGBT legacy to continue.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Lewd act in a public place, public nudity laws, Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor and Federal RICO laws are still on the legislative books in every State (even in the land of fruits and nuts, California).
My my, the new and improved Kit the Coyote tries so very hard to make himself look reasonable. He must have went back to the training manual of the LGBT movement and polished his act up a bit:
After the Ball: How America will conquer it's fear and hatred of Gays in the 90's
I'm sorry that you've missed the gist of this 5 part thread. While many things that are going on in the LGBT movement are still illegal but aren't being enforced because the LGBT movement has gained unbelievable political clout, the key issue is that what we're seeing today is because homosexuality has been legalized and culturally approved.
I would love to see RICO laws enforced. The Mafia aint got nothin on the 'gaystapo' when it comes to intimidation, violence and violation of peoples' God given rights.
300 Examples You Have to Read to Understand the Term ‘Homofascism’
https://barbwire.com/300-examples-read-understand-meant-term-homofascism/
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
What should people who embrace decency do about It? Educate themselves as to what your LGBT movement is all about and share it with others. Someday people will have had enough and will start to speak out and take action to defeat an evil movement that is built on a lie.
Educating others is part of the "solution", organizing and taken action is the rest. There are many pro family organizations out there sharing the truth about homosexuality (MassResistance, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, American Family Association, Family Research Institute, Family Research Council, etc. etc.). While not all of them are fighting this culture war the way I think it should be fought (exposing Donald Trump for the rainbow flag waver that he is), they're still sharing this important message to others.
More people need to get to know EX LGBT folks, as unlike proud and unrepentant homosexuals, they're honest about what caused their perverse sexual desires and that they can be changed. EX LGBT folks will tell others about the deathstyle that comes with homosexuality. They'll tell others about the harassment they the are subjected to by the LGBT movement for having the audacity to leave a movement that no one is supposed to leave unless it's in a coffin.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Yet it is "a crime" to seek legitimate therapy to help understand and possibly overcome those desires (the 'gaystapo' at work).
It's been pointed out many times during our numerous reparative/conversion therapy discussions that the only "legitimate" therapy for those with homosexual desires that your LGBT movement approves of is the fraudulent therapy that affirms homosexual desires and behavior.
What would HRC founder Terry Bean, former Seattle Mayor Ed Murray and the long list of homosexual icons who are pederasts and/or pedophiles do if these children actually received therapy and overcame their same sex desires? I suspect Bean, Murray and company would have to find lads over the age of 16 to have sex with.
Who would carry on the LGBT movement's agenda if young children weren't indoctrinated to approve of sexual perversion? Granted, living to the ripe old age of 45 is a very long time for a homosexual activist, but they need to plant the seed of death in the minds of youth in order for the LGBT legacy to continue.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Lewd act in a public place, public nudity laws, Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor and Federal RICO laws are still on the legislative books in every State (even in the land of fruits and nuts, California).
My my, the new and improved Kit the Coyote tries so very hard to make himself look reasonable. He must have went back to the training manual of the LGBT movement and polished his act up a bit:
After the Ball: How America will conquer it's fear and hatred of Gays in the 90's
I'm sorry that you've missed the gist of this 5 part thread. While many things that are going on in the LGBT movement are still illegal but aren't being enforced because the LGBT movement has gained unbelievable political clout, the key issue is that what we're seeing today is because homosexuality has been legalized and culturally approved.
I would love to see RICO laws enforced. The Mafia aint got nothin on the 'gaystapo' when it comes to intimidation, violence and violation of peoples' God given rights.
300 Examples You Have to Read to Understand the Term ‘Homofascism’
https://barbwire.com/300-examples-read-understand-meant-term-homofascism/
Kit the Coyote
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Kit the Coyote
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Perhaps but that is not the point.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
More people need to get to know EX LGBT folks, as unlike proud and unrepentant homosexuals, they're honest about what caused their perverse sexual desires and that they can be changed. EX LGBT folks will tell others about the deathstyle that comes with homosexuality. They'll tell others about the harassment they the are subjected to by the LGBT movement for having the audacity to leave a movement that no one is supposed to leave unless it's in a coffin.
First of all: define "succeed", as many people have different goals when it comes to therapy.
One must also remember that these people are dealing with insurmountable odds to begin with.
They have a terribly skewed outlook on natural sexual relations as they were subjected to horrific trauma as children. Keep in mind that grown women who have been raped often times aren't able to overcome the trauma and enjoy natural sex again, even with the help of therapy. Also remember that those attempting to understand and possibly overcome their same sex desires are constantly told by the LGBT owned media and fraudulent psychological associations that they can't succeed. Support is instrumental when dealing with an unwanted desire.
While there are thousands and thousands of success stories out there, if just one person (just one) is able to overcome those odds and lead a normal and happy life because of spiritual and/or psychological therapy, then that is proof that homosexuality is a changeable desire and behavior.
More people need to get to know EX LGBT folks, as unlike proud and unrepentant homosexuals, they're honest about what caused their perverse sexual desires and that they can be changed. EX LGBT folks will tell others about the deathstyle that comes with homosexuality. They'll tell others about the harassment they the are subjected to by the LGBT movement for having the audacity to leave a movement that no one is supposed to leave unless it's in a coffin.
First of all: define "succeed", as many people have different goals when it comes to therapy.
One must also remember that these people are dealing with insurmountable odds to begin with.
They have a terribly skewed outlook on natural sexual relations as they were subjected to horrific trauma as children. Keep in mind that grown women who have been raped often times aren't able to overcome the trauma and enjoy natural sex again, even with the help of therapy. Also remember that those attempting to understand and possibly overcome their same sex desires are constantly told by the LGBT owned media and fraudulent psychological associations that they can't succeed. Support is instrumental when dealing with an unwanted desire.
While there are thousands and thousands of success stories out there, if just one person (just one) is able to overcome those odds and lead a normal and happy life because of spiritual and/or psychological therapy, then that is proof that homosexuality is a changeable desire and behavior.
Kit the Coyote
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BINGO!!! Hit the problem on the head. Remember when I was talking about doing the hard work to prove these therapies, one of the first items on the list is establishing a single standard of success, one that is verifiable by others. Most of the third parties trying to verify these results are using an actual change in sexual orientation as confirmed by a trained therapist. Something that is almost impossible to do since the agencies do not usually perform such an evaluation to establish a baseline at the start or keep records of such.
Then you go on to talk about the insurmountable odds and trauma a patient has, well then you just emphasis why it is important NOT to use unproven therapies as when they try and fail, it makes that situation WORSE.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
First of all: define "succeed", as many people have different goals when it comes to therapy.
One must also remember that these people are dealing with insurmountable odds to begin with.
They have a terribly skewed outlook on natural sexual relations as they were subjected to horrific trauma as children. Keep in mind that grown women who have been raped often times aren't able to overcome the trauma and enjoy natural sex again, even with the help of therapy. Also remember that those attempting to understand and possibly overcome their same sex desires are constantly told by the LGBT owned media and fraudulent psychological associations that they can't succeed. Support is instrumental when dealing with an unwanted desire.
While there are thousands and thousands of success stories out there, if just one person (just one) is able to overcome those odds and lead a normal and happy life because of spiritual and/or psychological therapy, then that is proof that homosexuality is a changeable desire and behavior.
Define "success" in other areas where therapy is used to understand and in many cases hopefully overcome unwanted desires. You can't, because each individual is different and has different goals.
Also remember for the Christian going through spiritual therapy, the work of the Holy Spirit does take time, something that your atheist LGBT movement doesn't acknowledge.
Is that what the EX homosexual HATING LGBT movement is calling themselves in this case: "third parties"?
You act as if these trained and licensed professionals are dealing with a herd of cattle. Again, each individual has his or her own goal set and the therapist work with those individuals to hopefully achieve that goal.
Does it get any worse than HIV/AIDS and the 'deathstyle' that comes with homosexuality?
Things will change Kit. We'll get the perverts that are preventing these damaged people from seeking therapy locked away where perverts belong and change the atmosphere of our culture to embrace those who wish to change, not demonize them.
First of all: define "succeed", as many people have different goals when it comes to therapy.
One must also remember that these people are dealing with insurmountable odds to begin with.
They have a terribly skewed outlook on natural sexual relations as they were subjected to horrific trauma as children. Keep in mind that grown women who have been raped often times aren't able to overcome the trauma and enjoy natural sex again, even with the help of therapy. Also remember that those attempting to understand and possibly overcome their same sex desires are constantly told by the LGBT owned media and fraudulent psychological associations that they can't succeed. Support is instrumental when dealing with an unwanted desire.
While there are thousands and thousands of success stories out there, if just one person (just one) is able to overcome those odds and lead a normal and happy life because of spiritual and/or psychological therapy, then that is proof that homosexuality is a changeable desire and behavior.
Define "success" in other areas where therapy is used to understand and in many cases hopefully overcome unwanted desires. You can't, because each individual is different and has different goals.
Also remember for the Christian going through spiritual therapy, the work of the Holy Spirit does take time, something that your atheist LGBT movement doesn't acknowledge.
Is that what the EX homosexual HATING LGBT movement is calling themselves in this case: "third parties"?
You act as if these trained and licensed professionals are dealing with a herd of cattle. Again, each individual has his or her own goal set and the therapist work with those individuals to hopefully achieve that goal.
Does it get any worse than HIV/AIDS and the 'deathstyle' that comes with homosexuality?
Things will change Kit. We'll get the perverts that are preventing these damaged people from seeking therapy locked away where perverts belong and change the atmosphere of our culture to embrace those who wish to change, not demonize them.
Conversion Therapy
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) opposes psychiatric treatment "based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation" and describes attempts to change sexual orientation as unethical.
It also states that debates over the integration of gay and lesbian people have obscured science "by calling into question the motives and even the character of individuals on both sides of the issue" and that the advancement of conversion therapy may cause social harm by disseminating unscientific views about sexual orientation.
United States Surgeon General David Satcher in 2001 issued a report stating that "there is no valid scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy
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Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5
The "trained and licensed professionals" to whom "aCultureWarrior" refers have been denounced by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and the United States Surgeon General as without scientific evidence and unethical!
"aCultureWarrior" can twist and spin the facts however he pleases, but given that science has yet to determine the cause(s) of same sex orientation, his claims that it can be "cured" by Conversion Therapy can't be verified scientifically and are patently false!
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) opposes psychiatric treatment "based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation" and describes attempts to change sexual orientation as unethical.
It also states that debates over the integration of gay and lesbian people have obscured science "by calling into question the motives and even the character of individuals on both sides of the issue" and that the advancement of conversion therapy may cause social harm by disseminating unscientific views about sexual orientation.
United States Surgeon General David Satcher in 2001 issued a report stating that "there is no valid scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy
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Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5
The "trained and licensed professionals" to whom "aCultureWarrior" refers have been denounced by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and the United States Surgeon General as without scientific evidence and unethical!
"aCultureWarrior" can twist and spin the facts however he pleases, but given that science has yet to determine the cause(s) of same sex orientation, his claims that it can be "cured" by Conversion Therapy can't be verified scientifically and are patently false!
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