You just as easily could be talking about Donald Trump. The only major difference between the two is that Clinton doesn't pander for the religious vote, Trump does.
In that respect I suppose that makes Hillary Clinton more honest than Donald Trump
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You just as easily could be talking about Donald Trump. The only major difference between the two is that Clinton doesn't pander for the religious vote, Trump does.
In that respect I suppose that makes Hillary Clinton more honest than Donald Trump
False! Hillary Clinton is a felon (albeit presently unconvicted), she has committed multiple felonies that any other citizen would have done jail time for, therefore she is a felon.
Still not true. The head of the FBI and the people who investigated it for him said so. They said that to prosecute her would run contrary to the precedent of enforcement for actions he then deemed “extremely careless” and he said that if she had still been working for the government she'd have faced discipline. Not a criminal prosecution. Looking over the application of relevant laws, the FBI concluded “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”
No, that is what you have inferred into my statement. The difference is "I know" where the felon Hillary will take the nation "I do not know" with any certainty anyway where Trump will lead us but, the prospect of the unknown is far more appealing to me than the prospect of the known...more of the same just aint cutting it. Given both candidates are morally deficient, I will vote for the one I believe poses less of a threat to the nation, and just maybe there will be a country left that is worth saving four years from now. It is a bad situation whoever gets in really....Come Jesus!
MarcATL
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You never will, because liberals really not that partisan, nor radical.
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MarcATL
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What has President Obama done to America?
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Only to a liberal lawyer like you who makes excuses for political reasons for one of their own. If MarK Levin former chief of staff to Attorney General Edwin Meese under Ronald Reagan calls the woman a felon (and he has publicly on his radio & TV show), than it is good enough for me. You can spin it any way you please counselor, the woman is a felon and I am quite sure that there are plenty of people that you do respect that have the same opinion as I or Levin for that matter. I am curious though would you also say that Al Capone was only a tax evader? Of course he escaped justice for numerous other crimes including murder so, your theory gives him a pass on anyone accounting those other crimes to his credit because he was never adjudicated for them? Nonsense...
freelight
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Rising above the circus.....................
Rising above the circus.....................
Hilary and Kaine were both raised 'Christian' and still are devout in their 'faith-orientations' as far as I know. I'd gather most serving in Congress have 'Christian' backgrounds of one sort or another. Trump's religious commitments or background appears somewhat different, although claiming to be 'Presbyterian' and referred to by one evangelical leader as being a 'baby Christian'. Now how one's religious upbringing or personal conversion experience affects their character or ability to lead is something yet to be seen.
The challenge might be in how is one to serve both the kingdom of God and the government at the same time, to say nothing of 'separation of church and state' and conflicts with whether one can legislate morality or not...and so on. One on account Jesus did after all say his kingdom was not of this world (interpret that as you will).
I've liked some of what Green Party candidate Jill Stein has shared and encourage any who have not listened to her interviews to google them, or go to Democracy Now! and see the presidential debates that also include her responses to the questions and issues raised. - Some are NOT voting for Hilary or Donald, and trying to get a 3rd party candidate either elected or at least a seat in the debates.
Rising above the circus.....................
Hilary and Kaine were both raised 'Christian' and still are devout in their 'faith-orientations' as far as I know. I'd gather most serving in Congress have 'Christian' backgrounds of one sort or another. Trump's religious commitments or background appears somewhat different, although claiming to be 'Presbyterian' and referred to by one evangelical leader as being a 'baby Christian'. Now how one's religious upbringing or personal conversion experience affects their character or ability to lead is something yet to be seen.
The challenge might be in how is one to serve both the kingdom of God and the government at the same time, to say nothing of 'separation of church and state' and conflicts with whether one can legislate morality or not...and so on. One on account Jesus did after all say his kingdom was not of this world (interpret that as you will).
I've liked some of what Green Party candidate Jill Stein has shared and encourage any who have not listened to her interviews to google them, or go to Democracy Now! and see the presidential debates that also include her responses to the questions and issues raised. - Some are NOT voting for Hilary or Donald, and trying to get a 3rd party candidate either elected or at least a seat in the debates.
What I post are literally and precisely what the Holy KJV N.T. confirms . . . with absolutely no interpretations.
If you have a problem with my posts then you literally and directly have a problem with the Holy KJV N.T..
You are free to quote any thing that I post and I will willingly provide the literal back up revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.
Of course there are billions of 'Old people in Moses' (i.e. like you) who falsely present them selves as "New people in Christ'. They are false Christians because on a daily basis they corrupt distort and relegate thousands of literally correct revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. by 'interpretations'.
Indeed there are literally millions of interpretation of the Holy KJV N.T. as rendered by a billion strong traditional Christians. The sad fact is that all other tradition esteem and accept their Holy book 'as is', i.e. literally. Only the billion strong traditional Christian disrespect their Holy KJV N.T. They hold the view that they must corrupt and distort the Holy KJV N.T. to suit their ideas.
'Interpretations' is simply they twisting verses to have it say what they want it to say. The literal words are actually and purely what the verses want to say.
This 'interpretation' of verses is corruption of Christianity. They do this so as to prop up O.T. ideas which are totally and absolutely done away with by the Holy KJV N.T./Christianity and Jesus.
The billion strong traditional Christians boldly, brazenly and corruptly distort the literal relations in the Holy KJV N.T. so as to prop up their own ideas. They do this instead of becoming a child again and seeking to discern what the HOLY KJV N.T. is saying without changing things.
Is there any wonder why many are called and few chosen. The very great majority (the billion strong traditional Christians) are misled and misinformed. They err and are not chosen.
They are literally 'the dead who are burying their dead' with their own foolish, antichrist ideas . . . while foolishly believing that they are Christian.
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I didn't know that you were a comedian Marc, surely you didn't write the above with a straight face?
If all of the moral absolutes in the OT have been thrown out the proverbial window in the NT, then you really must love our country's two major Presidential candidates.
Warning, this CNN unreported video is sexually vulgar, despite not having nudity. And the women giggle at his sexual vulgarity that he flaunts.
Is that crickets I hear from the double standard, feigned outrage, hypocritical left? I think so.
Is that crickets I hear from the double standard, feigned outrage, hypocritical left? I think so.
DavidK
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Again, you spin doctrines of demons from specific words and sections of scripture and ignore the whole. The very same Paul you quote warns us to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers and to judge those in the Church who are unrepentant in their sin and remove them from the congregation.
He even warned us not to be taken in by your "anything goes" grace. You read, but you have no understanding.
If you have to ask that question then you are too stupid to understand the answer.
That kind of hyperbole just makes you look like a boob.
DavidK
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It looks like the only way this can go is into a complicated discussion about the word "evil". But yes, I think the scripture is clear that leading moral lives without God is simply feasting at the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and is evil. All our righteousness is as filthy rags.
DavidK
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Then I'm in a good company of boobs.
Tell me, if advocating that there are no moral absolutes is not a doctrine of demons, what is?
Nothing new there.
DavidK
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Or I just have a different view of marriage than you. In my not-yet-completely sanctified state, a relationship with one woman is enough to keep me constantly dying to myself and focusing on our journey together.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
There are those who are not saved David, does Holy Scripture refer to them as "evil"? I know many a secular person who borrows off Judeo-Christian doctrine (i.e. he or she leads a moral life) but haven't given their life to Christ, they're a far shot from being "evil".
A quick internet search on "The Bible and evil" brought up this webpage:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/good_and_evil
How about we apply the 2nd verse to all of those 'Christians' who are supporting the moral degenerate Donald Trump and viciously attack (I've been called a "dyke", a "pederast" and a "pedophile" by Trump supporters) those of us that don't jump on the Trump wagon?
Isaiah 5:20
There are those who are not saved David, does Holy Scripture refer to them as "evil"? I know many a secular person who borrows off Judeo-Christian doctrine (i.e. he or she leads a moral life) but haven't given their life to Christ, they're a far shot from being "evil".
A quick internet search on "The Bible and evil" brought up this webpage:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/good_and_evil
How about we apply the 2nd verse to all of those 'Christians' who are supporting the moral degenerate Donald Trump and viciously attack (I've been called a "dyke", a "pederast" and a "pedophile" by Trump supporters) those of us that don't jump on the Trump wagon?
Isaiah 5:20