Coca-Cola, Ford, Xerox Detest Being Listed as Planned Parenthood Sponsors

[King cobra]

The comparison of the SS with Planned parenthood is beyond idiotic and beyond offensive . Hitler and the Nazis DELIBERATELY planned to wipe out Jews in Europe . PP does not force women to have abortions or even to visit it for any reason, including medical checups ,contracpetion etc .
You've just make me feel like vomiting . Abortion is a tragedy , but NOT "genocide ". There is no central organization forcing women to have abortions with the intention of wiping out the human race, or people by skin color , except in China , which unfortunately DOES have forced abortions .
How many pregnant women has PP rounded up at gunpoint and forced to have abortions ? ZERO ! They do so of their own free will and because of their own personal problems . And irnonically PP has PREVENTED countless abortions by providing poor women with contracpetives . Without PP, the abortion rate in America would be even higher than it is today . Defuund it or abolish it, and the abortion rate in America will SKYROCKET !

Why do you say that abortion is a tragedy?

Is it because the initial victims are forced to visit the PP death camps?
Is it because there is a government funded organization to encourage the transport of victims, not in a squalid box car but in what should be the safest place on earth...a mother’s womb?
Is it because, in lieu of clubs, bullets or Zyklon B...forceps, suction catheters, and deadly lung/skin burning saline are used?
Is it because, instead of killing someone in freezing water to help sailors survive the Atlantic, babies are killed with careful crushing to help Pepsi taste better?
Is it that rather than targeting Yiddish speakers, Planned PareTheHood disproportionately targets darker skin?
Or, is it that saying PP prevents killing while offering killing is like saying the SS prevented economic hardship while offering gold teeth to their guards?

 

[Granite]

Here we go again with this idiotic hyperbole.

Is it because the initial victims are forced to visit the PP death camps?

Spare us all the "death camp" crap.

Is it because there is a government funded organization to encourage the transport of victims, not in a squalid box car but in what should be the safest place on earth...a mother’s womb?

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions.

 

[King cobra]

Here we go again with this idiotic hyperbole.
Spare us all the "death camp" crap.

Maybe an unfair comparison.
While the Final Solution victims and abortion victims were/are both incinerated, even the Nazis didn’t think of heating their buildings from it.

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions.

And Hitler never personally murdered a Jew, right?

 

[Granite]

Maybe an unfair comparison.

Ya think.

And Hitler never personally murdered a Jew, right?

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions. What part of this is hard for you to understand?

 

[King cobra]

Ya think.:roll eyes:

Maybe.
Both murderous and despicable but yeah, PP seems even worse than SS.

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions. What part of this is hard for you to understand?

The part where you think that you sounding stupid is some kind of show of strength on your part.

 

[Granite]

The part where you think that you sounding stupid is some kind of show of strength on your part.

Only a complete nitwit would consider actual facts "sounding stupid." But you've never really been as smart as you think you are.:smokie:

 

[King cobra]

Why do you say that abortion is a tragedy?

Is it because the initial victims are forced to visit the PP death camps?
Is it because there is a government funded organization to encourage the transport of victims, not in a squalid box car but in what should be the safest place on earth...a mother’s womb?
Is it because, in lieu of clubs, bullets or Zyklon B...forceps, suction catheters, and deadly lung/skin burning saline are used?
Is it because, instead of killing someone in freezing water to help sailors survive the Atlantic, babies are killed with careful crushing to help Pepsi taste better?
Is it that rather than targeting Yiddish speakers, Planned PareTheHood disproportionately targets darker skin?
Or, is it that saying PP prevents killing while offering killing is like saying the SS prevented economic hardship while offering gold teeth to their guards?

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions.

And Hitler never personally murdered a Jew, right?

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions. What part of this is hard for you to understand?

The part where you think that you sounding stupid is some kind of show of strength on your part.

Only a complete nitwit would consider actual facts "sounding stupid." But you've never really been as smart as you think you are.:smokie:

Now had you said tax dollars do not directly pay for abortions, you would have had a better chance at hitting a fact (though I’ll bet there are plenty of direct, covert lines to abortionists’ pockets).
Planned PareTheHood emphasizes more legitimate sounding functions to justify tax funding, but the organization still promotes and performs abortions. Kind of like the Mafia setting up legitimate businesses to camouflage their blood businesses. Except the Mafia typically doesn’t expect support from Uncle Sam.

So sorry. Calling you stupid was a cold, insensitive thing to say...I just assumed you already knew.:hammer:

 

[Angel4Truth]

Confirmed: Your Tax dollars are Funding Big Abortion

 

[Granite]

Why do you say that abortion is a tragedy?

The loss of human life almost always is. As for your Holocaust analogy claptrap: It's exactly that, and not worth responding to. Cut and paste yourself all day long.

Now had you said tax dollars do not directly pay for abortions

That is what I said, you colossal yutz.

 

[Jose Fly]

Confirmed: Your Tax dollars are Funding Big Abortion

Let's take a look at the article...

It’s safe to say that it’s no secret that Planned Parenthood’s cash cow is abortion. Each year, Planned Parenthood performs nearly 330,000 abortions.

That's nothing more than an empty assertion, that actually is directly contradicted by the facts, i.e. that ~97% of PP's services are not abortions. If they really were PP's "cash cow", you'd think it'd be more than 3% of what they do.

And what’s worse, your hard earned tax dollars are being used to fund the abortion industry as it commits this abhorrent practice.

Our tax dollars are funding abortions? Really? Let's see what ACLJ has as proof of this...

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has finally confirmed what we’ve been saying all along: Planned Parenthood is using your tax dollars to promote abortion—more specifically, 1.5 billion tax dollars over three years were used to promote abortion as “reproductive health care.”

I've looked through the GAO report they linked to, and there's nothing in there about PP using government money to promote abortion. All they say is that PPFA offers "educational programs" and provides "sexual and reproductive health care". Huh. :think:

And at least half of the funding allocated to IPPF by USAID was for “Family planning and reproductive health,” which is code for, you guessed it, abortion.

LOL! So that's it? ACLJ's evidence is "they don't say it....but we all know what they really mean"? Har, har, har....:chuckle:

And though Planned Parenthood—the organization performing 40% of America’s (reported) abortions every year—claims federal funding does not directly fund abortion, it’s not feasible nor believable that a group performing hundreds of thousands of abortions annually could prevent cross contamination.

And there you have it. "We don't have any actual evidence, but come on.....there has to be something going on...right?"

Pretty weak tea there A4T.

 

[Granite]

Code! Ah-ha! We have an Orphan Annie Decoder Ring and we'll get to the bottom of this! Page the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew, gang. Gonna be a long night.

It's also worth pointing out that they apparently provide a whole, what, 3% of all abortions performed in the United States (averages are about 1 million a year). PP's apparently missing the boat on this "cash cow" of theirs. Gee whiz, isn't that weird? Almost like...almost like there's more money to be made in preventing pregnancies in the first place. Huh.:noway: :jawdrop:

 

[Angel4Truth]

Let's take a look at the article...



That's nothing more than an empty assertion, that actually is directly contradicted by the facts, i.e. that ~97% of PP's services are not abortions. If they really were PP's "cash cow", you'd think it'd be more than 3% of what they do.



Our tax dollars are funding abortions? Really? Let's see what ACLJ has as proof of this...



I've looked through the GAO report they linked to, and there's nothing in there about PP using government money to promote abortion. All they say is that PPFA offers "educational programs" and provides "sexual and reproductive health care". Huh. :think:



LOL! So that's it? ACLJ's evidence is "they don't say it....but we all know what they really mean"? Har, har, har....:chuckle:



And there you have it. "We don't have any actual evidence, but come on.....there has to be something going on...right?"

Pretty weak tea there A4T.

And another:

Much of the criticism over Obamacare's abortion funding has been related to the state-level exchanges where individual's can purchase insurance, rather than the credit for small businesses. The Charlotte Lozier Institute and Family Research Council set up a website, ObamacareAbortion.com, to provide information about which health plans on the exchanges cover abortion. Not only are government subsidies paying for some of these health insurance plans, but due to the lack of transparency, pro-life customers are having difficulty finding which plans do not cover abortion.

Nancy Pelosi, Liberals Admit 'Obamacare' Funds Abortion, Now That Republicans Voted to Strip Funding

yes, your tax dollars do support abortion, like it or not.

 

[Jose Fly]

yes, your tax dollars do support abortion, like it or not.

Again, the facts:

"Under Obamacare, federal funds can be used to cover abortions for pregnancies caused by rape or incest, or that endanger the mother’s life. But no federal subsidies for premiums can be used for elective abortions...

...Under Obamacare, health insurance plans could cover some or all elective abortions, but they can’t use federal tax credits and subsidies to offset the cost. Insurance providers that cover elective abortions must charge consumers separately and deposit the money into a separate account that contains no federal money. Providers need to bill enrollees separately for elective abortions by itemizing them separately in monthly bills or sending separate bills."​

And while a GAO report found that not all health plan providers were following this law, they also couldn't say that the providers were using federal money to pay for elective abortion services. After the report was issued, HHS put out new regulations clarifying the legal requirements. In sum....

The GAO’s report found that the insurers it studied were not following billing requirements. But experts say that does not necessarily mean the providers were illegally using federal subsidies for abortions. Even if they were, Foxx’s statement that Obamacare authorized “massive” subsidies is an exaggeration. Based on the estimates above, abortion charges would range from 0.2 percent to 0.65 percent of an enrollee’s monthly bill.

The claim that “hard-earned taxpayer dollars” are paying for abortions “on demand” implies that taxpayers foot the abortion bill for any woman who requests one. But in reality, some providers still imposed their own restrictions on which abortions to cover, and all 18 issuers had payment requirements, such as out-of-pocket costs and co-pays.​

 

[jgarden]

PERCENTAGE OF PREGNANCIES ABORTED BY COUNTRY
(COUNTRIES LISTED BY PERCENTAGE) - 2010

country - year - % of pregnancies
****************************************************

2. Russia 2008 44.7%

10. China (PRC) 2007 31.1%

11. Hungary 2008 30.8%

15. Belarus 2008 28.2%

19. Sweden 2008 25.8%

20. Korea, South (ROK) 1999 25.6%

23. Slovakia 2008 24.3%

27. Serbia 2008 23.2%

30. United States 2005 22.6%

31. Ukraine 2008 21.9%

32. New Zealand 2008 21.6%

33. France 2007 21.4%

34. Norway 2008 20.9%

35. United Kingdom 2008 20.9%

36. Canada 2006 20.7%

39. Australia 2007 20.2%

40. Hong Kong 2005 19.9%

42. Japan 2007 19.1%

43. Denmark 2006 18.8%

45. Slovenia 2008 18.5%

47. Spain 2008 18.2%

49. Italy 2008 17.4%

50. Turkey 2008 17.0%

51. Croatia 2008 16.9%

52. Iceland 2008 16.5%

54. Czech Republic 2008 15.8%

56. Finland 2008 14.9%

58. Germany 2008 14.4%

61. Belgium 2007 13.5%

62. Netherlands 2007 13.5%

63. Greece 2005 13.3%

66. Taiwan (ROC) 1999 13.0%

68. Switzerland 2008 12.4%

69. Portugal 2008 11.9%

72. Israel 2008 11.1%

83. Ireland 2008 5.8%

88. Austria 2000 3.0%

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/11/01/abortion-rates-for-101-countries/

If the proLife supporters were serious about reducing the abortion rate they would research those nations with lower abortion rates and determine what it is being done that will encourage women to keep their babies.

- in the United States, abortion rates are relatively higher among racial minorities and Hispanic women

- an estimated 49% of pregnancies in the US are unintended, and 43% of these end up in abortion

- 1% of all abortions can be attributed to rape or incest

- most common reasons for wanting abortions include:
interference with work or school,
lack of finances,
single parenthood,
health reasons,
fear of a possible defect in the fetus

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Health/Abortions

 

[Jose Fly]

If the proLife supporters were serious about reducing the abortion rate they would research those nations with lower abortion rates and determine what it is being done that will encourage women to keep their babies.

We already know what reduces the number of abortions in the US....comprehensive sex education and easy access to birth control. The problem is, conservatives are opposed to those things too.

 

[jgarden]

Many of the countries with lower abortion rates than the US have a national daycare strategies whereby mothers can work and/or attend school while their children receive quality daycare at an affordable price.

One would have thought that instead of anti-proChoice rants or trying to stack the Supreme Court with conservative justices, the proLife agenda would take a more pragmatic approach and support concrete measures that would convince women, particuarly those in the lower socio-economic classes, to choose full-term pregnancies.

 

[King cobra]

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions.

Tax dollars do not pay for abortions.

Now had you said tax dollars do not directly pay for abortions, you would have had a better chance at hitting a fact (though I’ll bet there are plenty of direct, covert lines to abortionists’ pockets).
.

That is what I said, you colossal yutz.

Please show where, in this conversation, you said tax dollars do not directly pay for abortions. Then look up the definition for “yutz.”

It's also worth pointing out that they apparently provide a whole, what, 3% of all abortions performed in the United States (averages are about 1 million a year). PP's apparently missing the boat on this "cash cow" of theirs.

Planned Parenthood performed 327K abortions in fiscal 2014 - Washington Times

So, according to you, 327,000 is 3% of 1 million. Wow!

And further, being that the average cost of an abortion is around $500, $163.5 million is a cow worth milking for these pigs. If only little babies had gold teeth!!

On second thought, don’t bother looking up the definition for, “yutz.” Just grab a mirror.

 

[King cobra]

And another:



Nancy Pelosi, Liberals Admit 'Obamacare' Funds Abortion, Now That Republicans Voted to Strip Funding

yes, your tax dollars do support abortion, like it or not.

One thing that W. got right: There is "no distinction between the terrorists...and those who harbor them."

 

[jgarden]

In 2005, 15% of all pregnancies in Switzerland were terminated by abortion. The abortion rate was 7 out of 1,000 women aged 15–44 in the country, or 6 out of 1,000 women aged 15 to 19. 95% of abortions took place within the first trimester, and about half of the women who had an abortion also had Swiss citizenship. As of 2010, the abortion rate was 7.1 abortions per 1000 women aged 15–44, including abortions on women not residing in Switzerland.

The Swiss abortion rate dropped from around 12 per thousand in the 1970s, when data first became available, to around 8 in the 1990s. It has remained stable at around 7 during the 2000s. In 2013 the rate had dropped still further to 6.4 per 1000. This remarkably low rate compared to countries such as the UK, France or the U.S. has been attributed to a low rate of unwanted pregnancies due to widespread sex education, wide use of contraception (including morning-after pills available without prescription) and Switzerland's relatively high socioeconomic level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Switzerland

- widespread sex education

- wide use of contraception (including morning-after pills available without prescription)

- relatively high socioeconomic level

ProLife supporters have a "choice" - introduce the kinds of measures that have reduced the abortion rate to 7.1 per 1000 women in Switzerland or continue with the rants that have have failed to produce tangible results.

Althougth "proChoice" advocates support a woman's right to choose, most would support these measures because they would be just as happy if most abortions could be avoided.

Implementing the "Switzerland model" would require a major shift away from a conservative ideology while staying with the "status quo" would demonstrate that, when all is said and done, their conservative ideology trumps any real concern for the fetus.

- in 2002, 72.2% of the Swiss electorate voted to legalize abortion in a public referendum

- abortion in Switzerland is legal during the first trimester, upon condition of counseling, for women who state that they are in distress

– abortion is legal during any trimester in cases of severe physical or psychological damage to the woman

- legal abortions are now covered by the mandatory health care insurance scheme.

- in 2014, 70% of Swiss voters rejected a conservative initiative to remove the coverage of abortions by the public health insurance system

- Switzerland has one of the lowest rates of abortions and unwanted pregnancies among developed nations

 

[Granite]

Then look up the definition for “yutz.”

Check on "pedant" and "moving the goalposts" if you have any free time.:yawn:

Planned Parenthood performed 327K abortions in fiscal 2014 - Washington Times

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/

This does appear accurate. Which still means abortions are dwarfed by everything else they do. Whether you like it or not--and you don't--much of what PP actually does...prevents abortions.

P.S. My ancestors would be happy to know a yutz like you is using the word.