The Dems Coronavirus plans have failed

Gary K

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If something's wrong- don't do it. Pointing at your enemy and saying "they do it!" doesn't make it right.
And sorry, I am not "left".

LOL. You don't even recognize satire.

You're a flat out leftist. You support all the Democrat's ideas of governing, their concepts of giving away "free" stuff, gun control, their attacks on someone who is governing far more conservative than leftist, etc.... You support their economic ideas, which are distinctly socialist in nature. I can't think of a single conservative idea that you support as I've never seen you support one. You mock conservative ideas.
 

eider

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You may be a super moderator, but I think that is completely out of line.

Hi ......
the same scene has been used for a Brit joke with a voiceover ......Hitler is mad because he can't have a nice cool beer. The link is very long but I might stick it up here 'cos it's actually funny. :)
 

chair

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LOL. You don't even recognize satire.

You're a flat out leftist. You support all the Democrat's ideas of governing, their concepts of giving away "free" stuff, gun control, their attacks on someone who is governing far more conservative than leftist, etc.... You support their economic ideas, which are distinctly socialist in nature. I can't think of a single conservative idea that you support as I've never seen you support one. You mock conservative ideas.

no. the above is false.
 

Gary K

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no. the above is false.

Show the proof. Show your posts supporting conservative ideas. It should be very easy for you to do if you've been supporting them. Show your posts that are critical of the Democrat's economics. Show that you have not supported all of their attacks on Trump. Show your quotes from conservative sources.

I'm predicting right now that you will not post any of the evidence I have requested you present.
 

chair

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Show the proof. Show your posts supporting conservative ideas. It should be very easy for you to do if you've been supporting them. Show your posts that are critical of the Democrat's economics. Show that you have not supported all of their attacks on Trump. Show your quotes from conservative sources.

I'm predicting right now that you will not post any of the evidence I have requested you present.

Um, I haven't said anything one way or the other about the Democrat's economic policy on this forum. Do I have to attack the Democrats to prove myself? And which Democrats- they aren't all the same. How many scalps are required? I am concerned with economics- but not American economics. And if you think I have supported " all of their attacks on Trump" - well, you prove it. I'm not even aware of what "all" those attacks are.

I don't live in the US.

You are playing the modern stupid (yes, stupid) American Identity Politics game. If somebody doesn't agree with you on one issue, then they are The Enemy, and clearly disagree with you on everything.

For the record:
I tend to be middle of the road on most issues. I am generally conservative economically, i.e. government should stay out of people's business as much as possible- but I think there has to be a balance between that and safety nets. The most obvious one is universal health care, which is sorely lacking in the US. Did I mention that the US needs to get its budget under control!?

I think abortion is bad- but not the same as murder. I think that Obama was a lousy president- and so is Trump. The only English language paper I subscribe to (online) in the Wall Street Journal. I can't be easily pigeonholed into your black and white categories- or Red and Blue categories, I suppose.

You will probably crow now that your "prediction" has come true- that I didn't dig through my posts for hours to find evidence that will satisfy you. I'm very sorry about this, but even if such evidence exists, I am not going to spend the time to search for it. Maybe if Senator Joseph McCarthy was asking I'd have no choice, but for Mr. ffreeloader- sorry.

You owe me an apology for your wild accusations. My prediction: you won't ever ever apologize for anything.
 

Gary K

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And like all polls it depends on who was asked. Were those polled the liberal or conservative members of the evangelical community. I know members of the evangelical community who are as big of socialists as AOC. So of course Trump would not be supported by those people. It's like the media's polling before the 2016 election. They said it was Hillary in a landslide. Turns out it was just another attempt to get people to give up on voting for him. It's a common political tactic. I have very little doubt this election runs along a similar vein.

Look at the attendance at Trump's rallies. Before the lockdown they were as large as they were before the 2016 election, if not larger. Then look at the miniscule turnouts at Democrat rallies. That is the true polling. It was in 2016 and will be again. People are angry about the dishonest political games being played, and the longer the Democrats play those games the more of their own supporters they will drive away.
 

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It's like the media's polling before the 2016 election. They said it was Hillary in a landslide. Turns out it was just another attempt to get people to give up on voting for him. It's a common political tactic. I have very little doubt this election runs along a similar vein.

I followed the polls very closely in 2016. Months out from the election, Hellary had a clear lead, but as the election drew near, the polls tightened. I woke up on election day not sure who would win, because the polls were too close within the margin of error to make a prediction. As it was, the national polls had Killary in the lead, and in fact she did win the popular vote by nearly 3 million, but the state-by-state polling was more uncertain, and in fact Hitlery did lose the Electoral College vote. So the polls were fairly accurate.
 

Gary K

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Um, I haven't said anything one way or the other about the Democrat's economic policy on this forum. Do I have to attack the Democrats to prove myself? And which Democrats- they aren't all the same. How many scalps are required? I am concerned with economics- but not American economics. And if you think I have supported " all of their attacks on Trump" - well, you prove it. I'm not even aware of what "all" those attacks are.

I don't live in the US.

You are playing the modern stupid (yes, stupid) American Identity Politics game. If somebody doesn't agree with you on one issue, then they are The Enemy, and clearly disagree with you on everything.

For the record:
I tend to be middle of the road on most issues. I am generally conservative economically, i.e. government should stay out of people's business as much as possible- but I think there has to be a balance between that and safety nets. The most obvious one is universal health care, which is sorely lacking in the US. Did I mention that the US needs to get its budget under control!?

I think abortion is bad- but not the same as murder. I think that Obama was a lousy president- and so is Trump. The only English language paper I subscribe to (online) in the Wall Street Journal. I can't be easily pigeonholed into your black and white categories- or Red and Blue categories, I suppose.

You will probably crow now that your "prediction" has come true- that I didn't dig through my posts for hours to find evidence that will satisfy you. I'm very sorry about this, but even if such evidence exists, I am not going to spend the time to search for it. Maybe if Senator Joseph McCarthy was asking I'd have no choice, but for Mr. ffreeloader- sorry.

You owe me an apology for your wild accusations. My prediction: you won't ever ever apologize for anything.

Your assertion is not enough for me. It has to be backed by evidence. You show the evidence I have no problem apologizing. My ego is not that enormous. I come here to talk about truth, but see very little of it. You live in the UK and the UK is a long ways to the left of the US. Conservative thought in the UK is a long ways to the left of conservative thought in the US.

So you think abortion is bad, but it's not murder? How can that be? Is a "fetus" in the human womb going to come out the birth canal anything other than a human being? Killing that defenseless human life is murder. The US abortion laws are insane. If a woman wants her child and is involved in an accident where the other driver is at fault he is charged with a killing. But just because a woman doesn't want to have a child it's a favorable result to kill that child. The duplicity of those positions is enormous. If that is "conservative" thought in the UK it's a long way to the left of conservative thought in the US.

Just because someone who wants to have sex but doesn't want the responsibility of being a parent isn't reason enough to justify the killing of that human being, or for any other post-coital reason when it comes to that other than the life of the mother. Then it's a flip of the coin. Which life is more important? I'm not capable of making that decision. It's far above my pay grade. I will not play God and make a choice between who will live and who will die in that situation.

If someone doesn't think they can handle being a parent then put the child up for adoption before it is born. There are a lot of childless couples yearning to have children but can't. So do both the couple and your own child a favor and make sure they live together. Don't kill your child. The act of aborting a baby has some extremely negative consequences for the mother. Many women live the rest of their lives hating themselves because they did it. Those women who celebrate murder of their own child are the epitome of evil.
 

Gary K

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I followed the polls very closely in 2016. Months out from the election, Hellary had a clear lead, but as the election drew near, the polls tightened. I woke up on election day not sure who would win, because the polls were too close within the margin of error to make a prediction. As it was, the national polls had Killary in the lead, and in fact she did win the popular vote by nearly 3 million, but the state-by-state polling was more uncertain, and in fact Hitlery did lose the Electoral College vote. So the polls were fairly accurate.

The week of the vote there were polls showing Hillary leading by double digits. She and the DNC believed their own press and it cost her the election. She still hasn't come to terms with her mistakes either.
 

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The week of the vote there were polls showing Hillary leading by double digits.

No sir, the polls had it a lot closer than that. Have a look: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5491.html

She and the DNC believed their own press and it cost her the election. She still hasn't come to terms with her mistakes either.

Don't I know it. I made a thread about that very topic, available here: https://theologyonline.com/forum/pol...but-she-ll-try
 
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chair

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Your assertion is not enough for me. It has to be backed by evidence.
I don't care what's "enough for you". I don't owe you anything
You accused me of a whole mess of things without evidence, then have the audacity to suggest that I owe you some kind of proof that your wild accusations are false.

I have no problem apologizing. My ego is not that enormous.
The evidence indicates otherwise.
 

chair

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So you think abortion is bad, but it's not murder? How can that be?

The short answer has two parts:
1. That is a topic for a separate thread. Feel free to start one.
2. I'll join such a thread if you withdraw your wild accusations that you posted in this one. Right now I see no reason to engage in serious conversation with you.
 
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