Could Dogs detect Covid-19?

eider

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Thank you for sharing this experience.
Now you helped me know that one can die after having symptoms not necessarily like of a flu/cold and his death is attributed to COVID-19.

Our specialists are telling us that whilst the majority of children are untouched by this virus, the elderly, many younger folks with medical conditions, Asian and Black folks, and more .... can suffer horribly from the many different effects of Covid. There are hundreds of varying complications linked to it, we hear.

And we are now awaiting a repeat spike in the number of cases. I think the US is, as well. The hot summer weather has made no difference to this killer.

First of all we need a vaccine, but if enough dogs can be trained to identify carriers then this could help immensely.
 

7djengo7

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My point was to 7D7's particular question.

LOL

You had a point? Nay, a point to my particular question? Where was it? All that appeared in your post was quotation of President Trump. You call your quotation of President Trump (sans any comment from you regarding exactly why you quoted what you quoted), "my point"?
 

HeySabu

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Could Dogs detect Covis-19?

The UK Government is to provide £500,000 for research to discover whether trained dogs can identify the coronavirus or covid-19 in people. We already have 'Medical Detection Dogs' used to identify certain cancers, Parkinsons disease and malaria, and seizure detection dogs have proved to be life-savers for some sufferers of epilepsy.

A friend of mine trains drug and explosives detection dogs and he feels that if this research produces positive results that testing could advance safety for all. I have included a link to Medical Detection Dogs and have also pronted out an introduction to this work from their web-site.

Dogs could join the fight against COVID-19
www.medicaldetectiondogs.org.uk
Medical Detection Dogs is looking into whether man's best friend could play a role in preventing the spread of Coronavirus. The charity has spent years ...
The charity has spent years successfully researching the science behind dogs’ sense of smell and believes that dogs could detect the disease. It has always adopted a rigorous, scientific approach to its work, and produced more than a dozen peer reviewed research papers which support its belief that each disease has its own unique odour.

Medical Detection Dogs will be working in partnership with the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and Durham University, bringing together the team which recently collaborated to successfully prove that dogs can be trained to detect malaria.

Together they have started preparations to intensively train dogs so they could be ready in 6 weeks to help provide a rapid, non-invasive diagnosis towards the tail end of the epidemic, and approached government about how dogs can play a role in the fight against the disease.

Dogs searching for COVID-19 would be trained in the same way as those dogs the charity has already trained to detect diseases like cancer, Parkinson’s and bacterial infections – by sniffing samples in the charity’s training room and indicating when they have found it. They are also able to detect subtle changes in temperature of the skin, so could potentially tell if someone has a fever.

Once trained, dogs could also be used to identify travelers entering the country infected with the virus or be deployed in other public spaces.
Dr Claire Guest, CEO and Co-Founder of Medical Detection Dogs, says: “In principle, we’re sure that dogs could detect COVID-19. We are now looking into how we can safely catch the odour of the virus from patients and present it to the dogs.

“The aim is that dogs will be able to screen anyone, including those who are asymptomatic and tell us whether they need to be tested. This would be fast, effective and non-invasive and make sure the limited NHS testing resources are only used where they are really needed.”

Professor James Logan, Head of Department of Disease Control at The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, and Director of ARCTEC, said: “Our previous work demonstrated that dogs can detect odours from humans with a malaria infection with extremely high accuracy – above the World Health Organisation standards for a diagnostic.


Has anyone mentioned yet that this entire thread is STUPID based on a STUPID first post? Since when are dogs used to see if people have a medical condition? Eider is a complete dope, ninny, chump, dimwit, nitwit, goon, dumbo, dum-dum, dumb-bell, loon, jackass, bonehead, fathead, numbskull, blockhead, dunderhead, chucklehead, knucklehead, muttonhead, pudding-head, thickhead, wooden-head, airhead, pinhead, lamebrain, pea-brain, birdbrain, zombie, jerk, nerd, dipstick, and donkey.
 

KerimF

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Our specialists are telling us that whilst the majority of children are untouched by this virus, the elderly, many younger folks with medical conditions, Asian and Black folks, and more .... can suffer horribly from the many different effects of Covid. There are hundreds of varying complications linked to it, we hear.

And we are now awaiting a repeat spike in the number of cases. I think the US is, as well. The hot summer weather has made no difference to this killer.

First of all we need a vaccine, but if enough dogs can be trained to identify carriers then this could help immensely.

As you said, it is all about what 'specialists' say.
A 'specialist' cannot speaks out 'openly' (via international channels/media) if he is not authorised first by the (powerful rich) men in charge of his system.
Otherwise, he will be silenced for good, in case he reveals any truth supposed to be hidden, by using one of the many modern civilized methods.

But, for the common people (anywhere on earth) to be on the safe side, they are supposed to believe, as real and true, whatever their privileged specialists may tell them, because they have no other choice.

I mean, I am not here to convince anyone of what I know.
 

eider

Well-known member
As you said, it is all about what 'specialists' say.
A 'specialist' cannot speaks out 'openly' (via international channels/media) if he is not authorised first by the (powerful rich) men in charge of his system.
Otherwise, he will be silenced for good, in case he reveals any truth supposed to be hidden, by using one of the many modern civilized methods.

But, for the common people (anywhere on earth) to be on the safe side, they are supposed to believe, as real and true, whatever their privileged specialists may tell them, because they have no other choice.

I mean, I am not here to convince anyone of what I know.

If you don't want to trust in specialists, then don't.
I live in Britain and we aren't quite so frightened of trusting specialists here.
It's true that specialists can be bad people, which is why we ask peers to watch over specialists.

Who do you get to repair your vehicle, a specialist or the local carpet cleaner? :chuckle:
 

eider

Well-known member
Has anyone mentioned yet that this entire thread is STUPID based on a STUPID first post? Since when are dogs used to see if people have a medical condition?
You are ignorant about seizure-alert dogs? We have them here.
Medical assistance dogs? We have them here.
Canine partners (tending for the disabled). We have them here.

Eider is a complete dope, ninny, chump, dimwit, nitwit, goon, dumbo, dum-dum, dumb-bell, loon, jackass, bonehead, fathead, numbskull, blockhead, dunderhead, chucklehead, knucklehead, muttonhead, pudding-head, thickhead, wooden-head, airhead, pinhead, lamebrain, pea-brain, birdbrain, zombie, jerk, nerd, dipstick, and donkey.
Oh well...... I don't see much Christianity in there, then.
All I see is a bad mouth.
 

KerimF

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If you don't want to trust in specialists, then don't.
I live in Britain and we aren't quite so frightened of trusting specialists here.
It's true that specialists can be bad people, which is why we ask peers to watch over specialists.

Who do you get to repair your vehicle, a specialist or the local carpet cleaner? :chuckle:

I didn't say they are bad people... I said they are not free when they are allowed to address the multitudes.

About my vehicle, it is between the car specialist and me ... not between the specialist and the world :D
 

eider

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I didn't say they are bad people... I said they are not free when they are allowed to address the multitudes.

About my vehicle, it is between the car specialist and me ... not between the specialist and the world :D
Fair enough.
Our specialists are often University staff such as those at Imperial College and Oxford University, explaining their researches. I don't write down any of them myself. :)
 

KerimF

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Fair enough.
Our specialists are often University staff such as those at Imperial College and Oxford University, explaining their researches. I don't write down any of them myself. :)

Thanks to Jesus hint of the 'rich man', I try to remember it always whenever I hear a privileged rich man (hence belonging, directly or indirectly, to a powerful ruling group) or one of his top assistants (a politician, an investigator, an analyst or a specialist in a certain field) revealing a certain truth to the people. I know in advance he 'cannot' be sincere because the existence of the powerful rich class is based always on the people's ignorance about many things.
This natural rule/truth cannot be changed, we like it or not.
For example, revolutions keep substituting old names by new ones till the best deceivers be on power who know how to impose peace :D
This is how the world is created and Jesus revealed it by simple words so that I won't be a naïve dreamer about things that cannot happen, by design.

By the way, this worldwide propaganda of coronavirus reminds me the one of AIDS. Its true story started by a great medical discovery but this was replaced immediately by green creatures in Africa from which a natural deadly disease can be transmitted via certain sexual activities. As a result, many millions (likely more than 10) in Africa had to die due to their ignorance of the true story of AIDS and the reasons for which millions of dollars were invested to convince the world what you know about it now :) Of course, I won't go on because it is off topic.
 

chair

Well-known member
Did President Trump accuse somebody of blaming "100,000 American deaths on the Chinese"? I don't know that he did, but I know that you did:

See, that's what you said. That was your accusation--not President Trump's. You expect President Trump to explain your accusation, despite the fact that it's your accusation, and not his?

Trump
What they really treated the world badly on: They stopped people going into China, but they didn’t stop people going into the USA and all over the world. So you could fly out of Wuhan, where the primary problem was, all of the problems, essentially. Also where the lab is. But you could fly out of Wuhan and you could go to different parts of the world, but you couldn’t go to Beijing, and you couldn’t go to any place in China. So what’s that all about?

In other words, they knew they had a problem. I think they were embarrassed by the problem. Very embarrassed. And the — you know, the case could be made. They said, “Hey, look, this is going to have a huge impact on China, and we might as well let the rest of the world. Because the last people they want — we’ve had a great year against China, prior to the virus coming.

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But here’s the thing: They allowed this to go into our country. They allowed it to go into other countries all over the —
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This should never have happened. This virus should not have spread all over the world. They should have put it out. They should have let us and other people in other countries go in and put it out, because people knew it was happening.
LOL

You had a point? Nay, a point to my particular question? Where was it? All that appeared in your post was quotation of President Trump. You call your quotation of President Trump (sans any comment from you regarding exactly why you quoted what you quoted), "my point"?

Clear now?
Now dream up some ridiculous semantic issue, or find an excuse to infect your neighbor by not wearing a mask, or whatever nice people like you do in their spare time.
 

eider

Well-known member
Thanks to Jesus hint of the 'rich man', I try to remember it always whenever I hear a privileged rich man (hence belonging, directly or indirectly, to a powerful ruling group) or one of his top assistants (a politician, an investigator, an analyst or a specialist in a certain field) revealing a certain truth to the people. I know in advance he 'cannot' be sincere because the existence of the powerful rich class is based always on the people's ignorance about many things.
This natural rule/truth cannot be changed, we like it or not.
For example, revolutions keep substituting old names by new ones till the best deceivers be on power who know how to impose peace :D
This is how the world is created and Jesus revealed it by simple words so that I won't be a naïve dreamer about things that cannot happen, by design.

By the way, this worldwide propaganda of coronavirus reminds me the one of AIDS. Its true story started by a great medical discovery but this was replaced immediately by green creatures in Africa from which a natural deadly disease can be transmitted via certain sexual activities. As a result, many millions (likely more than 10) in Africa had to die due to their ignorance of the true story of AIDS and the reasons for which millions of dollars were invested to convince the world what you know about it now :) Of course, I won't go on because it is off topic.

OK. Fair enough.
Do you own your own home?
If so you are very very rich if compared to the average person in the world.

You mention: worldwide propaganda of coronavirus ....... Could you enlarge upon that? What is the propaganda saying? I've just heard that the virus is spiking quickly in some US States and that restrictions are being imposed again. And I'll bet that it will spike in the UK within a few weeks. That's not propaganda. And the fact that we in the UK are Flat-Broke through it isn't propaganda either. We're in big big trouble.

Our government doesn't want to open up yet but it has got to.......... got to.....
 

KerimF

New member
OK. Fair enough.
Do you own your own home?
If so you are very very rich if compared to the average person in the world.

Being rich is not a question of the amount of money or properties one may have.
It is about privileged rich persons on power, their top partners and assistances. None of them lives as ordinary people do :)

Anyway, please note, I am not here to convince you about anything. God gave you a human brain as mine, if not better.

I simply don't believe easily, as being real and/or true, whatever 'I am allowed' to see and/or hear. After all, expert magicians and professional actors expect from their audience to believe what they see and hear; otherwise they couldn't claim being good in their job.
So only those who have gifted with talents of great actors are allowed to play in the endless daily series 'politics', or of any international organization.

Therefore, the only thing I can add... is to wish you, your family and friends be safe.
 

eider

Well-known member
Being rich is not a question of the amount of money or properties one may have.
It is about privileged rich persons on power, their top partners and assistances. None of them lives as ordinary people do :)

Anyway, please note, I am not here to convince you about anything. God gave you a human brain as mine, if not better.

I simply don't believe easily, as being real and/or true, whatever 'I am allowed' to see and/or hear. After all, expert magicians and professional actors expect from their audience to believe what they see and hear; otherwise they couldn't claim being good in their job.
So only those who have gifted with talents of great actors are allowed to play in the endless daily series 'politics', or of any international organization.

Therefore, the only thing I can add... is to wish you, your family and friends be safe.

OK
And thank you for your polite post and kind thoughts.
I hope we chat again. :)
 

7djengo7

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Clear now?

You've merely just repeated the same stupidity of yours that I had already criticized. Why do you imagine that your repetition of your own stupidity is clarification?

Now dream up some ridiculous semantic issue, or find an excuse to infect your neighbor by not wearing a mask, or whatever nice people like you do in their spare time.

LOL

These days, most masks are nothing more than the "MAGA" hats of you Nazi leftards. They're nothing but a political identity badge you like to wear, to proudly express the fact of your being Nazi leftards...but nothing expresses the fact of your being Nazi leftards more clearly than your arrogant, baseless demand that everybody else be forced, against their will, to wear masks. Guess what, self-righteous hypocrite: you're absolutely nobody's benefactor for wearing a mask, anywhere, anytime. And, the fool driving around in his/her car with the windows shut, and no passengers, wearing a mask: that's you! The fool out jogging in the park, dozens of feet away from any other human being, wearing a mask: that's you!

P.S.: If your face is even a tenth as despicably grotesque as is your character, then I take it back about you being nobody's benefactor for your public mask-wearing.;)
 

chair

Well-known member
These days, most masks are nothing more than the "MAGA" hats of you Nazi leftards. They're nothing but a political identity badge you like to wear, to proudly express the fact of your being Nazi leftards...but nothing expresses the fact of your being Nazi leftards more clearly than your arrogant, baseless demand that everybody else be forced, against their will, to wear masks. Guess what, self-righteous hypocrite: you're absolutely nobody's benefactor for wearing a mask, anywhere, anytime. And, the fool driving around in his/her car with the windows shut, and no passengers, wearing a mask: that's you! The fool out jogging in the park, dozens of feet away from any other human being, wearing a mask: that's you!

P.S.: If your face is even a tenth as despicably grotesque as is your character, then I take it back about you being nobody's benefactor for your public mask-wearing.;)

You are even sicker than I thought.
 

eider

Well-known member
P.S.: If your face is even a tenth as despicably grotesque as is your character, then I take it back about you being nobody's benefactor for your public mask-wearing.;)

Today we heard (UK) that President Trump has worn a face-mask in public and recommended that people do wear masks as required. A senior Republican Senator appealed to him to do this.

About your disgusting insults to members who you disagree with........ from the safety of your home I guess you must feel very brave, but we all know what a fawning chicken you would be in the same room with any of us.
I'm sure that chair and others here would agree with me that you are almost certainly yellow, djengo.
 

7djengo7

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You are even sicker than I thought.

How is this latest post from you one bit different from any of your other posts on TOL? Answer: it's not essentially different at all. Like all your other posts, this latest of your posts is just one more substance-less emotional outburst from you. It's cosmetically different, of course, for the better, by comparison with many of your other posts, because it takes up so much less space than they. Cosmetically, your best posts, by far, were the ones in which you did nothing but quote from my posts, in a quote box, and typed no text in the body of your post, save for a single, solitary period. Again, substance-wise: no difference.:toad:
 

7djengo7

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Today we heard (UK) that President Trump has worn a face-mask in public and recommended that people do wear masks as required. A senior Republican Senator appealed to him to do this.

About your disgusting insults to members who you disagree with........ from the safety of your home I guess you must feel very brave, but we all know what a fawning chicken you would be in the same room with any of us.


I'm sure that chair and others here would agree with me that you are almost certainly yellow, djengo.

LOL

Oh, I'm sure I'll definitely try to keep as much distance from y'all as I can! Nazi leftards are vicious, violent people--especially when triggered by being confronted with individualist dissent against the collectivist falsehood and nonsense you are in the habit of parroting. They support (and some of them engage in) the murder of babies, so, of course, what would keep such angry, ends-justify-the-means brutes from calling for/enacting such bloodlust against dissenters whom they wish silenced? You'd better believe it I wouldn't want to be in the same room with any of you brave, brave heroes! Not unarmed, at least. No way, Jose! I'd definitely be afraid to turn my back to you, until I was a very safe distance away!

I take exception to your disgusting insults to people with whom you disagree, you hypocrite! Your arrogant demands that I wear a stupid mask against my will, for instance! Insolence of insolence!

In a text-based forum about ideology, who cares whether or not somebody is physically stronger than you, or than the mob you'd like to form against him? In a forum, your penchant for being a keyboard warrior regarding just how tough you'd be physically, in person, is hilarious in the face of how much of an intellectual pantywaist, a mental pygmy, you consistently demonstrate yourself to be in your posts.

That's your typical Nazi leftard way: endeavor to create situations in which those who would express dissent from you may be brought to feel physically intimidated, so as to try to shut us up. Try to shut people up by physical force, or the threat thereof--so that they might become "fawning chickens" in your physically-threatening presence, and they'll stop verbalizing their dissent from your insane, evil Nazi leftard ravings. Mentally, at least, you're definitely jackboot-thug material, eider! No doubt about it!
 
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