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  • #61
    A new poll shows that 19% of Americans think Donald Trump is working to reduce racial hatred.

    Nearly half of them think he's working to incite hatred.

    Views on Trump and the media are highly partisan. Seventy-six percent of Democrats say Trump encourages violence in the way he speaks; 19 percent of Republicans agree. Even among Republicans, though, just one-third say Trump’s approach discourages violence. :
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/half...ry?id=58924536

    Nearly as many blame the news media for reporting the violence.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
      Seventy-six percent of Democrats say Trump encourages violence in the way he speaks; 19 percent of Republicans agree.
      iow, more Democrats disagree with the statement than Republicans agree with it

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      • #63
        Lawyer: Man Who Attacked Boy During Anthem Thought It Was Trump’s Orders


        An attorney for a man who attacked a minor for wearing a hat during the national anthem so aggressively that he cracked the child’s skull said that his client thought he was acting on President Donald Trump’s orders.

        Attorney Lance Jasper said that his client, Curt Brockway, has significant brain damage and took Trump’s rhetoric as guidance to slam a 13-year-old to the floor at a fairgrounds in Superior, Montana, according to the Missoulian.

        “His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” Jasper said. “He certainly didn’t understand it was a crime.”

        Brockway allegedly told the teen to remove the hat while the anthem played, to which the boy responded: “[redacted]” sparking Brockway’s attack.

        Brockway was allegedly severely injured in a car accident and has impaired judgment as a result.

        “Trump never necessarily says go hurt somebody, but the message is absolutely clear,” Jasper said. “I am certain of the fact that [Brockway] was doing what he believed he was told to do, essentially, by the president.”




        Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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        • #64
          Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
          Lawyer: Man Who Attacked Boy During Anthem Thought It Was Trump’s Orders


          An attorney for a man who attacked a minor for wearing a hat during the national anthem so aggressively that he cracked the child’s skull said that his client thought he was acting on President Donald Trump’s orders.

          Attorney Lance Jasper said that his client, Curt Brockway, has significant brain damage and took Trump’s rhetoric as guidance to slam a 13-year-old to the floor at a fairgrounds in Superior, Montana, according to the Missoulian.

          “His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” Jasper said. “He certainly didn’t understand it was a crime.”

          Brockway allegedly told the teen to remove the hat while the anthem played, to which the boy responded: “[redacted]” sparking Brockway’s attack.

          Brockway was allegedly severely injured in a car accident and has impaired judgment as a result.

          “Trump never necessarily says go hurt somebody, but the message is absolutely clear,” Jasper said. “I am certain of the fact that [Brockway] was doing what he believed he was told to do, essentially, by the president.”



          So the teen told the guy to [redacted} and the guy reacted to that. Everything else is opinion and conjecture.

          Once again, it's Trumps fault....
          The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
            So the teen told the guy to [redacted} and the guy reacted to that. Everything else is opinion and conjecture.
            He told his lawyer:
            “His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” Jasper said. “He certainly didn’t understand it was a crime.”

            When Trump is telling his followers that if they beat up hecklers, he'll pay their legal fees, that's understandable.

            Once again, it's Trumps fault....
            Words do matter, yes. This guy is only one of many who have taken Trump seriously.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
              Lawyer: Man Who Attacked Boy During Anthem Thought It Was Trump’s Orders


              An attorney for a man who attacked a minor for wearing a hat during the national anthem so aggressively that he cracked the child’s skull said that his client thought he was acting on President Donald Trump’s orders.

              Attorney Lance Jasper said that his client, Curt Brockway, has significant brain damage and took Trump’s rhetoric as guidance to slam a 13-year-old to the floor at a fairgrounds in Superior, Montana, according to the Missoulian.

              “His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” Jasper said. “He certainly didn’t understand it was a crime.”

              Brockway allegedly told the teen to remove the hat while the anthem played, to which the boy responded: “[redacted]” sparking Brockway’s attack.

              Brockway was allegedly severely injured in a car accident and has impaired judgment as a result.

              “Trump never necessarily says go hurt somebody, but the message is absolutely clear,” Jasper said. “I am certain of the fact that [Brockway] was doing what he believed he was told to do, essentially, by the president.”



              So why isn't this guy locked up?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                So the teen told the guy to [redacted} and the guy reacted to that. Everything else is opinion and conjecture.

                Once again, it's Trumps fault....

                It's right there in front of you in black and white, the guy's lawyer is telling us what his client told him.

                "An attorney for a man who attacked a minor for wearing a hat during the national anthem so aggressively that he cracked the child’s skull said that his client thought he was acting on President Donald Trump’s orders."

                Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                  It's right there in front of you in black and white, the guy's lawyer is telling us what his client told him.

                  "An attorney for a man who attacked a minor for wearing a hat during the national anthem so aggressively that he cracked the child’s skull said that his client thought he was acting on President Donald Trump’s orders."
                  This is the problem in a nutshell (pun intended) Trump likes stirring up these morons, and every now and then, one takes him seriously enough to act on it.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                    The guy's lawyer is telling us...
                    That's all we need to know.
                    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                    E≈mc2
                    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                    -Bob B.

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                    • #70
                      Because the Constitution is the basis for America, no one is forced to stand, remove a hat, or place a hand over one's heart.

                      It's a basic freedom. So when Trump forgets to put his hand over his heart when the anthem is played, he's just an oaf, not a criminal in doing so.

                      The guy who assaulted a minor for not removing his hat was like so many of the people who committed crimes, thinking they had Trump's support, has a history of violence. He may have some mental illness problems.

                      Again, like so many of the people committing acts of violence, including the minority who are not Trump supporters.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                        Because the Constitution is the basis for America, no one is forced to stand, remove a hat, or place a hand over one's heart.

                        It's a basic freedom. So when Trump forgets to put his hand over his heart when the anthem is played, he's just an oaf, not a criminal in doing so.

                        The guy who assaulted a minor for not removing his hat was like so many of the people who committed crimes, thinking they had Trump's support, has a history of violence. He may have some mental illness problems.

                        Again, like so many of the people committing acts of violence, including the minority who are not Trump supporters.
                        A labored troll is a sad thing to watch

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                        • #72
                          Trump's DOJ suppressed a report showing that suspected white supremacists were responsible for all race-based domestic terror incidents last year.

                          The report by New Jersey’s Office of Homeland Security Preparedness was distributed throughout DHS and to federal agencies like the FBI earlier this year before it was obtained by Yahoo News. The document includes data Congress has sought from the Trump administration but the Justice Department has been “unable or unwilling” to provide.

                          The report shows that 25 of 46 suspects in 32 domestic terrorism incidents were identified as white supremacists. The 25 suspected white supremacist suspects were responsible for all “race-based” incidents while others were deemed “anti-government extremists” and “single-issue extremists.”

                          “This map reflects 32 domestic terrorist attacks, disrupted plots, threats of violence, and weapons stockpiling by individuals with a radical political or social agenda who lack direction or influence from foreign terrorist organizations in 2018,” the report said.

                          Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                          • #73
                            A Few Words About Guns and Personal Liberty
                            By Andrew P. Napolitano
                            August 8, 2019

                            Last weekend’s mass murders in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, have produced a flood of words about everything from gun control to mental illness to white nationalism. Most of those words have addressed the right to keep and bear arms as if it were a gift from the government. It isn’t.

                            The Supreme Court has twice ruled in the past 11 years that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual pre-political liberty. That is the highest category of liberty recognized in the law. It is akin to the freedoms of thought, speech and personality. That means that the court has recognized that the framers did not bestow this right upon us. Rather, they recognized its preexistence as an extension of our natural human right to self-defense and they forbade government — state and federal — from infringing upon it.
                            The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                            • #74
                              It would be exquisitely unfair, profoundly unconstitutional and historically un-American for the rights of law-abiding folks — “surrender that rifle you own legally and use safely because some other folks have used that same type of weapon criminally” — to be impaired in the name of public safety.

                              It would also be irrational. A person willing to kill innocents and be killed by the police while doing so surely would have no qualms about violating a state or federal law that prohibited the general ownership of the weapon he was about to use.
                              The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                              • #75
                                With all of this as background, and the country anguishing over the mass deaths of innocents, the feds and the states face a choice between a knee-jerk but popular restriction of some form of gun ownership and the rational and sound realization that more guns in the hands of those properly trained means less crime and more safety.
                                The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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