chrysostom

[chrysostom]

Not really, but I did search out and find at the USCCB website where they publish, "no group that acts in conflict with Catholic social and moral teaching can receive CCHD funds." So you're saying that's a lie?

yes

 

[chrysostom]

protecting the child
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. Are the bishops protecting the child? No. They are protecting abortion, same sex marriage, unions, immigrants, LGBT, environment, etc. The same things the Democratic Party is protecting. Just look at the political action groups supported by the CCHD. Support these groups and you are supporting the Democratic Party that supports abortion. Your Catholic money supporting abortion.
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[annabenedetti]

protecting the child
A Crisis in the Church
that you can't ignore. Are the bishops protecting the child? No. They are protecting abortion, same sex marriage, unions, immigrants, LGBT, environment, etc. The same things the Democratic Party is protecting. Just look at the political action groups supported by the CCHD. Support these groups and you are supporting the Democratic Party that supports abortion. Your Catholic money supporting abortion.
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You could always join the sedevacantists.

 

[chrysostom]

You could always join the sedevacantists.

no I can't
nor can I ignore it
I have to stay and fight for what I believe
we can't allow these people to destroy His Church

 

[annabenedetti]

no I can't [/q
nor can I ignore it
I have to stay and fight for what I believe
we can't allow these people to destroy His Church

Do you think there was ever a good time to be Catholic?

 

[chrysostom]

Do you think there was ever a good time to be Catholic?

anytime is a good time to be Catholic
why wouldn't you want to be part of His Church?
did you ever believe that?

 

[annabenedetti]

no I can't
nor can I ignore it
I have to stay and fight for what I believe
we can't allow these people to destroy His Church

What if God says to you: "For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me."

And you say to God: "Lord, when did I see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?"

And God replies: "Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me."


Then what?

What's the bigger fight? Whether you think the bishops should care about immigrants, LGBT, the environment, or whether the people of the Church live the golden rule?

 

[chrysostom]

Then what?

What's the bigger fight?

abortion

Jesus said

let the children come

 

[Right Divider]

What if God says to you: "For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me."

And you say to God: "Lord, when did I see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?"

And God replies: "Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me."

Then what?

What's the bigger fight? Whether you think the bishops should care about immigrants, LGBT, the environment, or whether the people of the Church live the golden rule?

If you love someone, you tell them the truth:

• Abortion is murder
• Homosexuality is perversion.
• Bi-sexuality is perversion.
• Etc.

 

[annabenedetti]

abortion

Jesus said

let the children come

What about the children already born, separated from their parents by the federal government?

 

[Right Divider]

What about the children already born, separated from their parents by the federal government?

We should care about ALL children, even the most helpless.

Why do you weight the somewhat small number of detainees against the millions of dead babies that were helplessly murdered?

 

[annabenedetti]

We should care about ALL children, even the most helpless.

Why do you weight the somewhat small number of detainees against the millions of dead babies that were helplessly murdered?

Why do you determine the value of a child's life by whether it's part of a small number or a larger number? A child's life is a child's life, is it not?

Is it possible you're assigning a political value to a child's life? Just a thought.

 

[Right Divider]

Why do you determine the value of a child's life by whether it's part of a small number or a larger number? A child's life is a child's life, is it not?

Is not a multiple homicide worst than a single one? Or in this case, isn't millions of homicides worst than a much smaller number of non-homicides?

Is it possible you're assigning a political value to a child's life? Just a thought.

Nope... you need better thoughts.

 

[annabenedetti]

Is not a multiple homicide worst than a single one? Or in this case, isn't millions of homicides worst than a much smaller number of non-homicides?

A single life has a unique value that isn't lessened because it's part a larger group. Ask anyone who's lost a loved one if their pain is less because it's only one life.

Nope... you need better thoughts.

Let me guess... you're the keeper of better thoughts? :chuckle:

 

[annabenedetti]

A long time ago, I was given this song:

Jesus give me your heart
Help me see that you are love
and change me from the inside out
Jesus give me your heart.


I don't know what to believe anymore, but for now I'd say if it doesn't involve showing love, it's not worth believing.

 

[Right Divider]

A single life has a unique value that isn't lessened because it's part a larger group.

You're being illogical and making a false accusation. I never said any such thing, nor anything that could even be remotely construed as such.

I was comparing the large group of non-homicide victims with the vastly larger group of homicide victims.

Ask anyone who's lost a loved one if their pain is less because it's only one life.

So you think that a child that is separated from parents is more tragic than the murder of a helpless unborn child?

Let me guess... you're the keeper of better thoughts? :chuckle:

It would certainly seem that way.

Your moral outrage over the problems at the border while ignoring the mass murder of millions of helpless unborn children is the height of hypocrisy.

 

[annabenedetti]

You're being illogical and making a false accusation. I never said any such thing, nor anything that could even be remotely construed as such.

You said: "Is not a multiple homicide worst than a single one?"

Your words, you own them.

So you think that a child that is separated from parents is more tragic than the murder of a helpless unborn child?

Why do you feel the need to make this a false dilemma? You can think both are tragic, be outraged by both. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

It would certainly seem that way.

To you, of course. :chuckle:

Your moral outrage over the problems at the border while ignoring the mass murder of millions of helpless unborn children is the height of hypocrisy.

It's not your fault you don't know I'm pro-life, that I've participated in many a life chain and march for life. I can do that and still be outraged that our federal government is violating basic human rights.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You said: "Is not a multiple homicide worst than a single one?"

Your words, you own them.



Why do you feel the need to make this a false dilemma? You can think both are tragic, be outraged by both. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

To you, of course. :chuckle:



It's not your fault you don't know I'm pro-life, that I've participated in many a life chain and march for life. I can do that and still be outraged that our federal government is violating basic human rights.

Do you support exceptions? If so, you're not pro-life. You're pro-choice with exceptions.

 

[annabenedetti]

Do you support exceptions? If so, you're not pro-life. You're pro-choice with exceptions.

Not getting into a purity debate with you. That's not what this conversation is about.

 

[Right Divider]

You said: "Is not a multiple homicide worst than a single one?"

Your words, you own them.

So you really think that there is no difference between a homicide involving a single person and one involving many people?

You have some strange ideas.

Why do you feel the need to make this a false dilemma? You can think both are tragic, be outraged by both. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Both are bad; one is clearly worst than the other.

To you, of course. :chuckle:

You do amuse yourself.

It's not your fault you don't know I'm pro-life, that I've participated in many a life chain and march for life. I can do that and still be outraged that our federal government is violating basic human rights.

Both are bad; one is much worst than the other