2MuchCoffeeMan
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I've read Enyart's the Plot, listened to the God's Criminal Justice System tapes and generally followed Enyart, Shadowgov and KGOV off and on for some time. I have to say I've found the entire concept of a bible-based christian legal system absolutely fascinating and quite exciting. But there are some aspects of the system Enyart describes that are rather difficult to accept. Not to say that I don't agree, you understand. But still...difficult.
It's the death penalty crimes, actually. Can't say I have the slightest problems with any restitution or corporeal punishment crimes at all. But some to the death penalty crimes (drunken/rebellious son, child who curses parents, adultery, etc.) are so far removed from today's thinking on these issues that it's difficult to get your mind around it. Hey, I'm a conservative christian. I understand how destructive these things are and I can read the bible as well as anyone else. I see God outlaw these things and command Israel to inflict the death penalty in these cases. You can't argue that the death penalty is the right punishment for these crimes if that's what God commanded.
But, as clear cut as that seems to be...still. It's tough.
Which brings up the idea, at least to me, what if these laws were in effect today? How would people really respond to them? I'm divorced, just to give some necessary background, and my wife's infidelity is what lead to that divorce (though, of course, I won't argue that I did my share of the damage to the marriage itself). What would I have done, even considering how hellish things became in my relationship with my wife, if I had caught her with another man while these laws were in effect?
To say "that's a tough call" is an understatement.
Or, what if my son cursed me? Or assaulted me? How would I/could I/should I respond to these situations under a bible-based legal system?
Granted, the whole weight of the death penalty is its' deterence, and the very existence of these laws on the books will serve to strongly deter these behaviors. But deterence only works if there are clear, well-known examples of the death penalty being carried out in the past with these kinds of cases. And we all know there's no society on earth that, even with these laws, won't have it's cases of adultery, etc.
When you consider this, you see why the wicked Pharisees found it so easy to "tweak" the mosaic law. And, as recall, Jesus was not too happy with them for it. Makes me wonder how much better we would do.
Anyway, any comments would be welcome.
It's the death penalty crimes, actually. Can't say I have the slightest problems with any restitution or corporeal punishment crimes at all. But some to the death penalty crimes (drunken/rebellious son, child who curses parents, adultery, etc.) are so far removed from today's thinking on these issues that it's difficult to get your mind around it. Hey, I'm a conservative christian. I understand how destructive these things are and I can read the bible as well as anyone else. I see God outlaw these things and command Israel to inflict the death penalty in these cases. You can't argue that the death penalty is the right punishment for these crimes if that's what God commanded.
But, as clear cut as that seems to be...still. It's tough.
Which brings up the idea, at least to me, what if these laws were in effect today? How would people really respond to them? I'm divorced, just to give some necessary background, and my wife's infidelity is what lead to that divorce (though, of course, I won't argue that I did my share of the damage to the marriage itself). What would I have done, even considering how hellish things became in my relationship with my wife, if I had caught her with another man while these laws were in effect?
To say "that's a tough call" is an understatement.
Or, what if my son cursed me? Or assaulted me? How would I/could I/should I respond to these situations under a bible-based legal system?
Granted, the whole weight of the death penalty is its' deterence, and the very existence of these laws on the books will serve to strongly deter these behaviors. But deterence only works if there are clear, well-known examples of the death penalty being carried out in the past with these kinds of cases. And we all know there's no society on earth that, even with these laws, won't have it's cases of adultery, etc.
When you consider this, you see why the wicked Pharisees found it so easy to "tweak" the mosaic law. And, as recall, Jesus was not too happy with them for it. Makes me wonder how much better we would do.
Anyway, any comments would be welcome.
