Don't you understand that the point you've made here disproves your own position?
This is a point I've made a thousand times and no one seems to want to let it sink in! You cannot talk about a timeless God without contradicting yourself! The reason you cannot is because the words and concepts that we use are not plucked out of thin air but are based on other, more fundamental concepts.
The concept of red implies the concept of color, which in turn implies sight, all of which combined implies cognition and intelligence, which implies an intelligent Creator.
All concepts are based on other more foundational concepts - all of them! (Aside from God, of course). If you deny the truth of a concept which is foundational to a concept you affirm, you beg the question (a.k.a. the Stolen Concept Fallacy), which is irrational. This is presuppositional apologetics in its most basic form and yet every Presuppositionalist I've ever known (which isn't many) commits this fallacy in regards to the timeless existence of God! They affirm the existence of God but deny that God has duration or experiences sequence, and, as you have correctly pointed out to Philetus, you can't talk about God without using terms which imply both duration and sequence (i.e. time) and so anyone who holds to such a position cannot keep from contradicting themselves because they beg the question right off the bat when they utter the first syllable concerning the existence of a timeless God.
Your own point proves your worldview to be false because the self-contradictory cannot be the truth.
Resting in Him,
Clete
As with Knight's statement that this should be a red flag, I agree, but not for me, but OV. I have not stated my position a thousand times, but I again say I see your thousandth as incorrect and finitely/logically bound so tight, there is no room for the infinite.
Your assumption is your logic, reasoning capacity, isn't: finite, limited or incapable of conceiving the limitless, infinite, eternal being of God. But it is.
I on the otherhand am saying that finite cannot comprehend infinite. It is like trying to gather the ocean in a jar. It cannot be done. Our logic containers and brain mass are not elevated. We are the product of a vast Creator.
My dog is logical, but she can never attain to understand me fully because she is incapable. She'll never understand why I shave, take out the trash, or wear clothes. There is no escaping this for her. In comparison, I'm finite, but there is a huge chasm between our finite differences she can never bridge.
To say God is limited by our understanding and vocabulary is like saying that I'm just a dog in my dog's eyes. Of course I'm not a dog, and my dog would be wrong to believe such. This is what I believe your scenario points to. It is outside of your logical parameters so you assume you are correct when in fact, God is uncontainable by our comprehension. The ONLY things we know about Him are those things He's expressed.
I recognize God's working in our time constraints, for us, in a relational way. That He is unconstrained by those Himself is evident and clear from my scripture reading. I wish to put this problematic extrapolation to rest. God is relational to us, but
transcendant (above us, out or our reach. Incapable of being grasped by finite creatures):
Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Ecc 8:17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labor to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it
Rom 11:34 For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who became His counselor?
Job 37:23 The Almighty, whom we cannot find out, is exalted in power; and to judgment and overflowing righteousness He does no violence.
Job 37:24 Therefore, men fear Him; He does not respect any who are wise in heart.
Omnipotence:
Job 5:17 Behold, blessed is the man whom God corrects. Therefore do not despise the chastening of the Almighty.
Job 42:2 I know that You can do all, and not any purpose is withheld from You.
Ominscience:
Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.
Deu 31:21 And it shall be when many evils and troubles have found them, this song shall testify against them as a witness. For it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed. For I know their imagination which they do, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I swore.
Psalm 147:4,5
He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.
Psa 44:21 shall not God search this out? For He knows the secrets of the heart.
1Jn 3:19 And in this we shall know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him,
1Jn 3:20 that if our heart accuses us, God is greater than our heart and knows all things.
