ARCHIVE: Need some expert eyes here

[Mr. 5020]

Appreciate your efforts!

Suggested lab tool:
If you are using natural peanut butter, stick a mixer blade in a cordless drill to mix it with.
100 times faster and easier than stirring it with a spoon or knife.

(I was proud of myself when I came up with that idea a few weeks ago. )

:rotfl:

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Appreciate your efforts!

Suggested lab tool:
If you are using natural peanut butter, stick a mixer blade in a cordless drill to mix it with.
100 times faster and easier than stirring it with a spoon or knife.

(I was proud of myself when I came up with that idea a few weeks ago. )

And why exactly do we want to stir our peanut butter? :idunno:

 

[zoo22]

And why exactly do we want to stir our peanut butter? :idunno:

With natural peanut butter the peanut oil separates from the peanut mush. It rises to the top, and you have to stir it up, and sometimes it a real pain in the whatsit.

Regular processed PB contains partially hydrogenated oils to keep the oil from separating and it makes the shelf life a lot longer.

Good idea with the drill, V.

All of my experiments btw, have been conducted using natural peanut butter.

 

[zoo22]

I would be remiss if I didn't post this for you all:

Peanut Butter Jelly Time

Enjoy.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

With natural peanut butter the peanut oil separates from the peanut mush. It rises to the top, and you have to stir it up, and sometimes it a real pain in the whatsit.

Which of course is why I will only buy supernatural peanut butter.

 

[zoo22]

Which of course is why I will only buy supernatural peanut butter.

:chuckle:

I can't believe I didn't see that one coming ...

 

[Vision in Verse]

So, we've established that there are hypothesis that explain the origin of life on earth which are alternatives to Christianity and are compatible with what we think we know about physical world.

 

[GuySmiley]

So, we've established that there are hypothesis that explain the origin of life on earth which are alternatives to Christianity and are compatible with what we think we know about physical world.

We've also established a good method for stirring natural peanut butter, and that Knight would just rather not have to stir his peanut butter.

 

[Vision in Verse]

We've also established a good method for stirring natural peanut butter, and that Knight would just rather not have to stir his peanut butter.

Um... that's not important to me... Why don't we stay on topic?

 

[Nathon Detroit]

So, we've established that there are hypothesis that explain the origin of life on earth which are alternatives to Christianity

Agree!

Yes a alternate hypothesis exists.

and are compatible with what we think we know about physical world.

DISAGREE!

Creating life from non-living matter is a fairy-tale. Life spontaneously generating itself is not compatible with anything we know about the physical world.

 

[Vision in Verse]

DISAGREE!
Creating life from non-living matter is a fairy-tale. Life spontaneously generating itself is not compatible with anything we know about the physical world.

Which law of the universe does it contradict exactly?

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Um... that's not important to me... Why don't we stay on topic?

Party pooper! Liberals have no sense of humor.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Which law of the universe does it contradict exactly?

Law of the universe???

What does that mean?

You said.....

are compatible with what we think we know about physical world.

I responded....
Creating life from non-living matter is a fairy-tale. Life spontaneously generating itself is not compatible with anything we know about the physical world.

 

[Vision in Verse]

Law of the universe???
What does that mean?

What we know about the physical world:
Physics
Chemistry
Biology

Physics? Certainly atoms are capable of moving. Check!
Chemistry? Certainly organic chemicals can bond together. Check!
Biology? Certainly organic molecules can replicate. Check!

 

[Nathon Detroit]

What we know about the physical world:
Physics
Chemistry
Biology

Physics? Certainly atoms are capable of moving. Check!
Chemistry? Certainly organic chemicals can bond together. Check!
Biology? Certainly organic molecules can replicate. Check!

And we also know that life only comes from life. Non-living matter does not spontaneously generate into living replicating cells. Can you prove otherwise????

 

[Vision in Verse]

And we also know that life only comes from life.

That is an assumption.

Non-living matter does not spontaneously generate into living replicating cells.

Non-living organic matter, however, does change in configuration, and what is life other than replicating organic matter? There is no reason this configuration of replicating organic molecules cannot be reached without intelligence.

Can you prove otherwise????

No, and let me remind you can't prove it either way as well.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

That is an assumption.

No.... the assumption would be the opposite.

There is no reason this configuration of replicating organic molecules cannot be reached without intelligence.

Scientists cannot create life from non-living matter using all of their intelligence. What makes you think a puddle of water can do it without intelligence?

What makes a puddle, or a volcano, or some clay so much better at creating life than scientists in a lab?

 

[Vision in Verse]

Scientists cannot create life from non-living matter using all of their intelligence. What makes you think a puddle of water can do it without intelligence?
What makes a puddle, or a volcano, or some clay so much better at creating life than scientists in a lab?

This is not as important until I get this next point across.

No.... the assumption would be the opposite.

Why is the belief that life cannot arise from non-life not an assumption?
What makes something an assumption?

 

[GuySmiley]

That is an assumption.

Supported by observation.

Non-living organic matter, however, does change in configuration, and what is life other than replicating organic matter? There is no reason this configuration of replicating organic molecules cannot be reached without intelligence.

This is an assumption unsupported by observation.

 

[Vision in Verse]

Supported by observation.

Yes! Tell this to Knight! Please! It is an assumption supported by the lack of the observation of life forming without reproduction from another life.

This is an assumption unsupported by observation.

I'll get there.