Dear All,
This is beginning to sound like a confusion-fest here. God did not 'evolve' everything out of nothing. He 'Created' every thing out of whatever He chose to, whether it be dust, minerals, atoms, protons, electrons, sub-atomic particles, etc. He is a GREAT CHEMIST, understanding ALL CHEMISTRY. I don't want to hear another word about any of this craziness, but I also don't suppose that will stop any of you. The Lord God may have re-formed something differently, but it is still His Creation. It did not 'evolve' into something different without Him specifically controlling it and making it be so. Also, there is no Mother Nature. That is the Lord God causing the storms, tornadoes, lightnings, thunders, rain, snow, etc. by Himself. Forget about the term Mother Nature. It's b/s.
In God's Name,
MichaelC
Sorry MC but all that is to me are your bald assertions based on a supposed supernatural and what you believe to be true regardless of evidence and physical facts. I rather doubt that you’d even want to try and begin to understand say the harsh interaction between predator and prey and how that relationship has fashioned their physical characteristics over millions of years. Your fantasy realm is perhaps rather more important to you.
Dear Alwight,
I am saying I read your post, and I have taken to heart what Freelight says too, and I still say whether fauna or flora change, it is by God's decisions. Same with David and Goliath. You would have thought that Goliath would win, considering his size compared to David's. But David had someone else on his 'team' that Goliath didn't acknowledge. Namely, a divine Creator, who makes those who revere or look to Him, the winners, and a way to make it happen. That's how it works. There are tons of other instances I could cite. I am tired of all of this. I would also believe that God made woman not completely in His likeness, but pretty dang close. How's that sound? That's what happens. Sometimes, a fetus is born with both male and female parts to be actually born. That gives that person to choose who he/she wants to be prevalent. Enough said. That doesn't mean God is a woman. But it does give me empathy to those who are homosexual quite a bit indeed. Yes, they were born that way. Maybe Lady Gaga was right after all!
God Bless,
MichaelC
Firstly stories and legends from any culture do not establish them as actual real events, physical evidence nor material truth, however much you enjoy them or want them to be true. Fact is people will typically embellish and exaggerate stories else no one would listen to them.
After that I don’t intend to argue that a particular God I don’t believe exists has any particular gender. Anyway evidence indicates that original life existed for many millions of years without having sexual reproduction or gender.
Dear freelight and Alwight, and Jukia,
I do want to apologize for being so rigid, but we each have our own beliefs and this time, it is a combination of three different inputs. I can't deny my guardian angel's admonition that God created and formed everything, and there was nothing created, except by Him. He even says He created good, and He created evil. I was shocked even by that. A lot of what you both, Jukia and Alwight say, is not true to me, and you feel the same about me too, so whatever. We will find out who's true when we meet our Maker. That will happen, trust me, even if you're an atheist. So make a day of it, for it will happen.
There are many questions that I still have that I have received no answers to yet, but I know whatever the Lord God wants me to know, He'll let me know in His Time. I'm sure I will have questions after I meet Him and talk with Him too.
In His Name and His Time,
Michael
Unless an angel comes and visits me Michael then I am compelled by the evidence of my own life to conclude that you are sadly mistaken about angels and many more things too.
If as you say we do all meet our maker in due course then I, of course, am badly wrong here and now. But just like you I have neither evidence nor experience of meeting such a being and neither have you, and there is no reason to think that I ever will do so imo. I certainly won’t suppose I will just because you claim to have seen an angel. If you don’t care about real world physical evidence and facts as I suspect you don’t, then fine you are free to believe away in any fantasy world you like, but that just isn’t me and if your God exists he would know just how to convince me.
Dear Alwight,
I do not live in a world of fantasy as you claim. Darwin was wrong in his conclusions. See Knight's thread on God vs. Evolution. It will be a half hour you could use to listen to the video there. Maybe you'd wake up out of your atheist bubble or world of fantasy of your own, and Jukia and hedshaker too. I know you believe totally in a big lie because you don't believe God and Jesus exist, and I know for a FACT They Do, so you are already behind the start line.
God gives certain life forms the ability to protect themselves, etc. Why don't you wake up and smell the crap you believe in? It really is a wonderful smell, eh? You are so wrong, it is a real shame. I thought you were pretty cool until now. Oh well, you can't judge an atheist by his cloak. I feel very sorry for you Alwight. There's no time to save you, I fear.
Enough said,
Michael
I actually don’t think that Knight or Ray Comfort for that matter have any great desire, freedom or wisdom to explore the real facts about the ToE because their primary objective is to oppose it at all costs since it clearly is at odds with a literal Genesis. For them Darwinian evolution must be considered false whatever the scientific evidence based conclusions are.
I think instead you should go to reputable secular sources for information about the ToE, don’t just believe what creationists will tell you, but I don’t suppose that real evidence and facts really interest you much either.
Clearly however a great many non-fundamentalist Christians have no such problems and it simply isn’t a case of ToE versus God, if you choose to accept that real physical evidence and rigorous science actually count for something in this life.
Otherwise believe away in any fantasy you want since real falsifiable facts and evidence won’t hurt them.
