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  • #91
    Originally posted by Knight

    Hey Pal... this is "Ask Knight" not ask

    Just tryin' to help!


    And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.....

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Knight

      Uranus?


      Hey... watch the language, buster!

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      • #93
        Re: Re: Ask Knight!

        Originally posted by Nineveh

        Who could pass up this offer?!

        1. Is a tenet of OSAS that even if a man's heart turns from God, he is still saved?
        I can't speak for all "tenets" but yes... those saved under God's dispensation of grace are given an irrevocable inheritance.

        2Timothy 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.
        2. Is a tenet of OV that God prophesies then "makes come about"?
        Some prophesies yes... and some no.
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        • #94
          I understand sir Knight, thank you. Wow... in only 2 sentences! I feel almost giddy
          Help for

          "...the Reformation broke with Rome but not Greece..." - Bob Enyart

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Sozo

            Hey... watch the language, buster!
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            • #96
              Originally posted by BillyBob

              Great minds think alike!
              I disagree.

              (my usual response to that saying)
              grace & peace

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              • #97
                Re: Re: Re: Ask Knight!

                Originally posted by Knight

                I can't speak for all "tenets" but yes... those saved under God's dispensation of grace are given an irrevocable inheritance.

                2Timothy 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. Some prophesies yes... and some no.
                Most Open Theists (writers; theologians) are more in the Arminian camp (conditional eternal security). Knight/Enyart is more Calvinistic on this point only (unconditional eternal security).

                back to Mr. Knight...
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                • #98
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Ask Knight!

                  Originally posted by godrulz

                  Most Open Theists (writers; theologians) are more in the Arminian camp (conditional eternal security). Knight/Enyart is more Calvinistic on this point only (unconditional eternal security).

                  back to Mr. Knight...
                  It's a myth that eternal security is a open view vs. closed view issue.

                  If God tells those in the Body that they are secure... who can say otherwise?

                  Romans 8:37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

                  Furthermore... I do not hitch my pony to any human authors no matter what camp they dwell in.
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                  • #99
                    It is not a myth that Arminians do not believe in OSAS. It is not a myth that most OVers are not Calvinistic, but feel they are a subgroup of Arminianism (or are labeled as such).

                    It is not a myth that you have been influenced by Hill and Enyart (not that that is a bad thing necessarily...we do not live in a vacuum, and there are few original ideas).

                    OSAS is incompatible with libertarian freedom, and OSAS is usually not held by those who support genuine freedom (as the Open View in principle does; remember, bro., we are the heretics who do not believe in exhaustive foreknowledge...including one's final destiny before it is sealed by death or His coming...or so I thought...'names were erased from the book of life'...I heard us argue on TOL). It seems to me that this is an incompatible inconsistency to rightly believe in Open Theism and yet support the Calvinistic OSAS (think it through, my friend). The Enyart camp may be an anomoly and outside the majority view of Open Theists (A Pentecostal Open Theist has fewer ideas to change than a former Calvinistic Open Theist who may try to have a syncretistic compromise...which leads to more problems than it solves).

                    But that's just me
                    Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

                    They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
                    I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

                    Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

                    "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

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                    • What are the RULES for TOL use (where are they)?

                      Why are the Mormons like KD given free reign here on an evangelical board?
                      Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

                      They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
                      I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

                      Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

                      "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

                      The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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                      • Originally posted by Knight

                        I really don't read much.

                        Is it not possible to have misconceptions if we do not balance our understandings with critics or those of like mind? Your Open Theism view may be too narrow and overly influenced by Hill/Enyart and not stand up to scrutiny from more rounded Open Theists who interact with substantial pro/con arguments.

                        The Bible is our ultimate source, but iron sharpens iron in the academic community. It is important to look at information from all sides to refine and strengthen our views, lest we become myopic (short-sighted). Since our shared Open View has philosophical elements, it is simplisitic to say: "Its me, Jesus, and the Bible."

                        This is like saying the KJV was good enough for Paul, so it is good enough for me.
                        Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

                        They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
                        I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

                        Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

                        "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

                        The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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                        • Knight, I have a couple questions. What is Open Theism? Are Open Theism and Open View the same thing?
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